So proud of black people now....its about time!!

[tigerred59]

I get your drift. Without Black people those guys you named would still be wildin out in the caves of europe eating each other. Wake me when one of them can top the first multi genius Imhotep. Basically anything those guys did has to be credited to the knowledge they got from Black people in Africa.

Oh, get over your delusions. It's an historical FACT than in medieval times whites were thousands of years ahead of blacks in every societal development that requires brains. I noticed that you couldn't factually refute any of my points, you just went into your Al-Sharpton-delusions that blacks were somehow magical super-beings before "whitey" started oppressing them. Classic sour-grapes argument tactic.

When I read the shite that you spew out it is clear that white culture is regressing.

Coming from an Islam-fellatrix, RAPE-ENABLER COWARD like you, I consider that a compliment. YOU ENGLISH PIG!!! All you pommie, empire-losing fucks care about it your oh-so-precious muslims and covering up their epidemic human rights atrocities, you IRA-bait piece of shit! How many times do I have to tell you that this "seppo" considers you Western European, miserable, shit-eating coward vermin the most miserable, shit-eating coward vermin of my race? You IRA-fodder literally SELL YOUR OWN DAUGHTERS to your own muslim fuck-machine, you English pig.

So thats blacks,muslims and western europeans that you hate. You sort of make the case that the US is full of low educated hate filled shit kickers. I know that isnt the case but the internet gives a voice to people we would be better off not hearing.

We're at least NOT THE RAPE ENABLERS you putrid, American-backstabbing subhumans you Pommie Pond-Life are. Here in America, we have REAL men, who PROTECT young females, as opposed to enabling EVERY muslim human rights atrocity in the book. If an Islam-human-condom like yourself had lived 500 years ago (when England had REAL men), you would have been hung/drawn/quartered for your Islam-taint-licking treason. You gamma-ray-emitting anti-Western detritus; you may think you're the King Turd of Shit Mountain but you're really nothing more than a tiny, worm-like particle of uric acid floating around the toilet bowl of life.

I love this shit...two white guys who are proboally related, going at each other...carry on fella's, this is some funny shit

 

[Iceweasel]

Do they not know that it was the black community, mainly black women that raised an intire generation of white people back in the day. While Ma and Pa Kettle was sittin on their ass, it was blacks, that did the cooking the cleaning the farming, the raising of kids and more......

Oh we know it. We just question that you are really 200 years old.

 

[80zephyr]

We have racism in the UK.It is generally the preserve of the poor and the poorly educated.
Historically it has always been Jewish people. After the war it became people from the Caribbean and then Asians from India and Pakistan.
I am old enough to have witnessed this crap in my own home town.
After the Asians the focus moved on to Eastern Europeans and more recently the target has become Muslims,generally from the Middle East and Pakistan.
People always seem to need someone to blame and seem to be happy to percolate in their own bile.
Black Americans have been oppressed since they landed in America. I cant see how anybody can deny that.

It would be nice to think that things were getting better but judging by some of the froth on here I have to question that.

These are some recent postings.

No, we are actually under threat by a feral savage entity called the Negro. I suggest you check out the statistics on black on white crime. It's rampant and Whites are under brutal attacks. A negro is a true impulsive domestic bred terrorist with zero compassion for life.

Who will keep me from speaking for murdered children! Reveal yourself. Tell me from your delusional, cultish mind how having Whites and negros coesist is worth the lives of tens of thousands of White children. With more yet to be murdered. Tell me of your solution that doesn't include White people trying even harder to kiss negro ass. Tell me why you are willing to risk the murders of tens of thousands more White children to see if that plan will work. And where does that give justice to those who were already murdered.

These are the outpourings of the foulest minds imaginable and yet it is possible that they could hold down positions of influence in schools and so on where they can quietly go about their hate agenda.

There still seems a long way to go .

You posted: Black Americans have been oppressed since they landed in America. I cant see how anybody can deny that.

I don't deny it. However, what I want to know is can it be changed? From my reading immigrants from Nigeria are wildly successful here in America. Why is that? I mean, if racism is really systemic, no black could possibly move up.

So, we know that blacks can succeed. But, it appears that native blacks don't trust the system enough to give it a chance. Then the question becomes, maybe they don't want success in a white mans world, which would be a fair view to take, but if they don't want ours, they have to come up with something that will work for them.

What is a certainty is that, based on statistics, the quality of black lives has eroded from the 1950's to today. We all know that this situation cannot go on forever, yet what are the options?

Mark

I think its been explained several times that people that know their history, live their traditions and have that grounding sense of self can succeed despite white racism. Dont get it twisted. People native to Africa say you whites are racist as well. They just have the foundation to combat the obstacles. Blacks born here in the US dont trust whites for a good reason. Your history has shown you cannot tolerate Black success because it makes you uncomfortable for us to succeed against the odds. Its an issue because you were taught no matter how bad you have it as a poor white person at least you were not Black. It messes with the white pysche to see successful Blacks.

I don't see it that way. If blacks actually were kept back from being successful, there would be no place in American society where they would excel.

As we know there are very many successful black people. So, if blacks are actually being held back, how is it that some of them excel?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

Thats weird. I have a large family unit as most Blacks I know do. We also have an intense desire to stay in school and succeed.

Statistics show otherwise. 70% of your children are born out of wedlock. Most of your homes are single parent homes. Your school drop out rate is the highest among all ethnic groups. Your unemployment rate among your males is the highest. Look it up for yourself.

they don't want to know the facts, they just want to pout and whine and demand equality, which they have, but don't choose to use.

White facts have no validity. When you can prove that being married is the only indicator of what a family is then I will listen to see if you know what you were talking about.

If "white mans" marriage is our own societys construct, I can see why you would disavow owning it. However, we can see(even with whites) how detrimental it is for kids to grow up in single parent households.

What will you replace it with?

Mark

"Out of wedlock" doesnt mean "single parent household". Thats a common misconception white racists have when they try to make themselves feel better.

We have no need of replacing anything. Blacks were the ones that invented the family unit. The phrase "it takes a village" is an old African proverb.

If you have no need to replace it, it must mean that you consider the black family unit a success.

Do you?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

When did Jews lose their traditions, history, religion etc? While your at it please explain how a white Jew got treated the same as a Black person. This should be interesting.

Friend white jews who joined the civil rights struggle back in the day, were treated just as equally with blacks, remember the burning of the 3 white boys in Ala.? However, to compare jewish struggle here in the US with blacks is like comparing apple and oranges.

Jews. Hispanics. Asians. Irishmen. Scots. You forgot they also were enslaved and slaughtered in the past too. Yet.....they moved on.

Only the Irish were enslaved over here in the US. Also they were not enslaved for multiple generations and had their history destroyed. Its easy to move on when you already know who you are.

If you are unable to move on because you don't know who you are, what is the solution?

Mark

Do like I did and not only find out who you are but view with suspicion everything whites have taught you about what it means to be Black/African. Once you see all the lies, omissions, and obvious attempts by whites to promote the the idea of white superiority you get an idea of how fragile the psyche of the white race is. You start questioning everything and you marvel at the staying power of your beautiful Black race. Then you begin to rebuild. Thats occurring as we speak.

I tend not to listen to those around me, but I do seek facts to ascertain reality. I know that blacks claimed that they are unfairly targeted by society, and thats why their crime rate is so much higher than the norm.

Sounds logical. However, there is one statistic that skews that perception. Murder. If the reality was that blacks are targeted more, how do you explain the murder rates among blacks?

In order to be targeted for the crime of murder, you need a victim, and since there are indeed victims, why would the murder rate skew so heavily toward the blacks?

And if the murder rate does skew towards blacks, it makes me question just how much discrimination plays into the other crime statistics.

Mark

 

[FJO]

When you must quantify pride by skin color you still don't have that to be proud of. You are still part of the problem.

Black pride is an essential element in all the discussions we're having around the country. To exclude color is to deny what is going on. You, and people like you with this rose colored glass mentality is why we're still having these asinine debates to this day. I suggest you get with reality and try a new color of shades, Pollyannna!!

These debates are asinine because you and your ilk make it asinine.

Martin Luther King Jr. looking at you from the grave weeps.

 

[sealybobo]

Seeing how every race and ethnic group on Earth at some point has been slaughtered or invaded or enslaved or mistreated....I have to ask.....why are blacks so easily conquered? They just can't seem to get a win.

Easily conquered....???? You gotta be talking slavery, cause you white motherfuckers jump out ya skin you see one on a dark street.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Bullshit. I'm white and have no problem with blacks loving and appreciating themselves. It is the calls for violence and segregation I have a problem with. Appreciation of the black panthers makes me wonder if I should support for the kkk. Six of one, half doz. of the other. We should be Americans; not black or white people.

Sounds real good... So do you live amongst Black people?
Do you have any Black friends? If so, put your questions to them. Allow them to witness your response when you see one of them tongue kissing a blonde White girl in your presence and she likes it.. Let them see the jealousy in your eyes when one of them invites you to a house that is bigger and costlier than yours. They can almost hear your thoughts when you see such wonders and think:" damn how did this N-----r get all of this. Must be affirmative action or he is a criminal...some decent white man ought to own this stuff."

So yeah, go on and join the kkk. Don't let your conscience or the truth get in the way. Hate is always the defense for those who can't cope any other way.

You need to look at your own hate and assumptions. My daughter (blond hair and blue eyes) very nearly married a black guy with my blessing. Your hate is no better than mine would be.

 

[airplanemechanic]

 

[Asclepias]

Statistics show otherwise. 70% of your children are born out of wedlock. Most of your homes are single parent homes. Your school drop out rate is the highest among all ethnic groups. Your unemployment rate among your males is the highest. Look it up for yourself.

they don't want to know the facts, they just want to pout and whine and demand equality, which they have, but don't choose to use.

White facts have no validity. When you can prove that being married is the only indicator of what a family is then I will listen to see if you know what you were talking about.

If "white mans" marriage is our own societys construct, I can see why you would disavow owning it. However, we can see(even with whites) how detrimental it is for kids to grow up in single parent households.

What will you replace it with?

Mark

"Out of wedlock" doesnt mean "single parent household". Thats a common misconception white racists have when they try to make themselves feel better.

We have no need of replacing anything. Blacks were the ones that invented the family unit. The phrase "it takes a village" is an old African proverb.

If you have no need to replace it, it must mean that you consider the black family unit a success.

Do you?

Mark

Of course the Black family unit is a success. Its when Blacks people start lending validity to the male dominated society white males prefer out of fear of strong women where everything starts going wrong......thats where knowing our history and who we are makes the difference. You need a strong woman just as you need a strong man. White males seem to prefer their women weak and subservient.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm just pleased that finally black people with voices are speaking up. I get so tired of hearing from them after the limelight has faded. Dude breaking the chains, that shit made me cry. For too long, the chains of success and white acceptance has held so many of our artist from speaking what is real in this country and thank God with the way they've treated Obama, "some" blacks in this country are realizing that love them white folk gave....came with a price...that all are finding isn't worth it.

My mom was talking to me the other day about how she thinks integration did more harm than good. Black people took it as signal white people suddenly wanted to live with them when it was only that they just wanted Blacks to have the right to spend their money in the white community.

I've always said, the only thing integration did, was introduce little white girls to little black boys...that's it. We still live in separate communities, we still have income inequality, we still have ceilings for blacks in the work place and on and on and on. Other than negro's able to pick and chose which Barbie doll to fuck without getting a rope around his neck, integration was a bust for the black community!!

Do something about it. Why don't 20 or 50 black former atheletes all take over a section of Detroit. Get a black federal credit union to give small business loans. Manufacture things. Attract corporations to come invest in your community. Don't elect a gangster. Partner with the white suburbs and police. Lower your number of kids you have in poverty.

Do for yourselves what whites refuse to do.

You keep saying you should have stayed separate but equal. Well pick a town, any town, and show us what ya got.

You just said to create a Black federal credit union. Whites make the rules that govern that and we have already seen what they do to successful Black communities time and time again.

What successful black communities?

And who ruined those neighborhoods?

And why don't you guys fix them back up? Have you people given up trying?

You'd have to research all the successful Black communities. They dont normally list them in the white history books.

Envious whites ruined those communities by being violent like they claim Blacks do now.

Fixing those communities back up requires a collective effort. It occurs all the time but the media doesnt like to cover that stuff.

 

[Asclepias]

We have racism in the UK.It is generally the preserve of the poor and the poorly educated.
Historically it has always been Jewish people. After the war it became people from the Caribbean and then Asians from India and Pakistan.
I am old enough to have witnessed this crap in my own home town.
After the Asians the focus moved on to Eastern Europeans and more recently the target has become Muslims,generally from the Middle East and Pakistan.
People always seem to need someone to blame and seem to be happy to percolate in their own bile.
Black Americans have been oppressed since they landed in America. I cant see how anybody can deny that.

It would be nice to think that things were getting better but judging by some of the froth on here I have to question that.

These are some recent postings.

No, we are actually under threat by a feral savage entity called the Negro. I suggest you check out the statistics on black on white crime. It's rampant and Whites are under brutal attacks. A negro is a true impulsive domestic bred terrorist with zero compassion for life.

Who will keep me from speaking for murdered children! Reveal yourself. Tell me from your delusional, cultish mind how having Whites and negros coesist is worth the lives of tens of thousands of White children. With more yet to be murdered. Tell me of your solution that doesn't include White people trying even harder to kiss negro ass. Tell me why you are willing to risk the murders of tens of thousands more White children to see if that plan will work. And where does that give justice to those who were already murdered.

These are the outpourings of the foulest minds imaginable and yet it is possible that they could hold down positions of influence in schools and so on where they can quietly go about their hate agenda.

There still seems a long way to go .

You posted: Black Americans have been oppressed since they landed in America. I cant see how anybody can deny that.

I don't deny it. However, what I want to know is can it be changed? From my reading immigrants from Nigeria are wildly successful here in America. Why is that? I mean, if racism is really systemic, no black could possibly move up.

So, we know that blacks can succeed. But, it appears that native blacks don't trust the system enough to give it a chance. Then the question becomes, maybe they don't want success in a white mans world, which would be a fair view to take, but if they don't want ours, they have to come up with something that will work for them.

What is a certainty is that, based on statistics, the quality of black lives has eroded from the 1950's to today. We all know that this situation cannot go on forever, yet what are the options?

Mark

I think its been explained several times that people that know their history, live their traditions and have that grounding sense of self can succeed despite white racism. Dont get it twisted. People native to Africa say you whites are racist as well. They just have the foundation to combat the obstacles. Blacks born here in the US dont trust whites for a good reason. Your history has shown you cannot tolerate Black success because it makes you uncomfortable for us to succeed against the odds. Its an issue because you were taught no matter how bad you have it as a poor white person at least you were not Black. It messes with the white pysche to see successful Blacks.

I don't see it that way. If blacks actually were kept back from being successful, there would be no place in American society where they would excel.

As we know there are very many successful black people. So, if blacks are actually being held back, how is it that some of them excel?

Mark

I wouldnt imagine you would see it that way for the reasons I have already stated. Whites can no longer legally hold Blacks back but that doesnt stop them from discriminating on interview call backs due to a Black sounding name. That doesnt stop them from discriminating by hiring their less qualified white friends son. That doesnt stop them from turning down that business loan to a Black person and giving it to that just immigrated european person. That doesnt stop them from erecting a glass ceiling for that dynamic Black queen that wears her hair in cornrows.

Those that excel know that one simple truth. When you get knocked down you get back up and blow through the obstacle.

 

[Asclepias]

Too late. You just did.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Nope I didn't

 

[Asclepias]

When you must quantify pride by skin color you still don't have that to be proud of. You are still part of the problem.

Black pride is an essential element in all the discussions we're having around the country. To exclude color is to deny what is going on. You, and people like you with this rose colored glass mentality is why we're still having these asinine debates to this day. I suggest you get with reality and try a new color of shades, Pollyannna!!

These debates are asinine because you and your ilk make it asinine.

Martin Luther King Jr. looking at you from the grave weeps.

MLK was the one that coined the phrase of Black being beautiful you fucking idiot. You racist white boys never know what the hell you are talking about!

 

[Asclepias]

Nope I didn't

Of course you did. No one said anything about white people apologizing for being white. Since you brought it up we know that emotionally you feel the need to apologize. Its kind of like a Freudian slip.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Nope, I see people like you making white people act like they've oppressed blacks.

So no need to apologize for being white.

 

[Asclepias]

Friend white jews who joined the civil rights struggle back in the day, were treated just as equally with blacks, remember the burning of the 3 white boys in Ala.? However, to compare jewish struggle here in the US with blacks is like comparing apple and oranges.

Jews. Hispanics. Asians. Irishmen. Scots. You forgot they also were enslaved and slaughtered in the past too. Yet.....they moved on.

Only the Irish were enslaved over here in the US. Also they were not enslaved for multiple generations and had their history destroyed. Its easy to move on when you already know who you are.

If you are unable to move on because you don't know who you are, what is the solution?

Mark

Do like I did and not only find out who you are but view with suspicion everything whites have taught you about what it means to be Black/African. Once you see all the lies, omissions, and obvious attempts by whites to promote the the idea of white superiority you get an idea of how fragile the psyche of the white race is. You start questioning everything and you marvel at the staying power of your beautiful Black race. Then you begin to rebuild. Thats occurring as we speak.

I tend not to listen to those around me, but I do seek facts to ascertain reality. I know that blacks claimed that they are unfairly targeted by society, and thats why their crime rate is so much higher than the norm.

Sounds logical. However, there is one statistic that skews that perception. Murder. If the reality was that blacks are targeted more, how do you explain the murder rates among blacks?

In order to be targeted for the crime of murder, you need a victim, and since there are indeed victims, why would the murder rate skew so heavily toward the blacks?

And if the murder rate does skew towards blacks, it makes me question just how much discrimination plays into the other crime statistics.

Mark

How do you know what are facts and what is fiction? Whites have been caught in so many historical lies they no longer have any credibility.

Its simplistic to say the Black crime rate is high just because Blacks are unfairly targeted. That ultimately be a major cause but it also has a lot to do with what I spoke of before. Not knowing who we are as a people. Anyone with a simple grasp of psychology can tell you what happens when you destroy a peoples foundation and devalue them for centuries. They begin to hate and devalue themselves. There is a segment of Black that is still suffering from this. However, that is changing as Blacks are beginning to understand the folly in accepting white lies and statistics.

 

[Asclepias]

Nope, I see people like you making white people act like they've oppressed blacks.

So no need to apologize for being white.

Sorry but I dont believe you. I cant make white people feel like that. Its your guilt and ultimately your need to apologize for being white. I dont care if your white. Thats your problem.

 

[tigerred59]

Do they not know that it was the black community, mainly black women that raised an intire generation of white people back in the day. While Ma and Pa Kettle was sittin on their ass, it was blacks, that did the cooking the cleaning the farming, the raising of kids and more......

Oh we know it. We just question that you are really 200 years old.

Here we go with the double standard bullshit, its okay for you simple minded Ritz Crackers to pop off with your turn of the century rhetoric about Republicans are a black man's friend, ie Lincoln shit, but let a nigga go back their, they're racist and old??? Get the fuck back to your trailor, your fired!!