So Where Does the 1st Amendment End?

[satrebil]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

 

[satrebil]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

What about saying something people don’t like? Can the government punish you for speech made in your home and gets put on the Internet that is not violent, but racist?

One school district thinks it can.
Remember- the schools are closed until at best next September.

Wish I had a nickel for every stupid thing a teen said in the past year.

Carrollton High seniors expelled after racist video goes viral

Two Carrollton High School seniors were expelled Friday and won’t be allowed to graduate after a racist video they posted online went viral.

www.ajc.com

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

Why are they denied a graduation?
Answer: for words spoken.
Not the sharpest pencil in the cup, are you?

Guess I'll just post it again -- What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

You need a hint on this?

The language thereof:
"Congress shall make no Law...."

I've just word-searched the entire Constitution. "High Schools shall make no Law" was not found.

Here, horse. This is called "water".

Because a PUBLIC school is a government institution, brainlet. Do you need this in crayon?

 

[satrebil]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

What about saying something people don’t like? Can the government punish you for speech made in your home and gets put on the Internet that is not violent, but racist?

One school district thinks it can.
Remember- the schools are closed until at best next September.

Wish I had a nickel for every stupid thing a teen said in the past year.

Carrollton High seniors expelled after racist video goes viral

Two Carrollton High School seniors were expelled Friday and won’t be allowed to graduate after a racist video they posted online went viral.

www.ajc.com

Just proving you can take the redneck out of the trailer park but you can't take the...well, you get the idea. It amazes me that people think you can just say anything you want and not have any repercussions. It doesn't matter if they were on school grounds or even it wasn't during school hours. They are deemed as representing the school. And if the school deems a certain code of conduct in violation, even if it's just bad publicity and press, see ya. You can't have it both ways here. Sure, you have the right to free speech. But there are limits. The school has every right not to tolerate it. This isn't a stupid thing said. This is upbringing. It's friggin 2020. Anyway, no big loss. These two don't look smart enough to even pass their GED.

Here's the relevant part of the article,
Carrollton High Principal David Brooks said that even if the video was recorded at home, “it doesn’t alleviate the students’ responsibility to uphold a high standard of behavior.”
They got nothing to sue on. Maybe they'll learn something from this but I doubt it.

So the government can deny you a drivers license for what you post on USMB?

States govern drivers licenses. What's with all the false equivalencies?
Make a fair comparison. For example.
The government can deny you a security clearance for posts and speech deemed a security risk to the United States.
A business can fire an employee for posts or speech detrimental to the businesses code of conduct.

Government is government. You’re advocating they take action against speech.

Point us to that section of the government that decrees Carrollton High School is part of it.

Umm... the fucking school board? You know... those people that are VOTED into office?

Man you are dumber than a box of rocks.

 

[Ame®icano]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

Correct.

If they can do that, than they could deny graduation to every religious kid, and claim the "separation of church and state".

 

[satrebil]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

Correct.

If they can do that, than they could deny graduation to every religious kid, and claim the "separation of church and state".

These idiots don't understand that. They also never learn that these draconian measures always boomerang back into their ignorant faces.

 

[OnePercenter]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

We'll see how that plays out.

 

[OnePercenter]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

Correct.

If they can do that, than they could deny graduation to every religious kid, and claim the "separation of church and state".

Every "religious kids" has to meet the requirements of the State they attend school to graduate. Schools are licensed.

 

[sparky]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

I yelled 'theater' in a crowded fire once.......the chief wasn't all that impressed.....~S~

 

[satrebil]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

We'll see how that plays out.

I know exactly how it will play out. The students/their parents will sue the school on First Amendment grounds and they will win. Public schools have no business or authority taking punitive action against students outside their purview. If this was done on school property, or at a school sponsored event, or even posted to a social media platform owned by the school it would be a different story.

 

[Ame®icano]

Of course speech is limited on school property ... it's a school ... an inherently heavily regulated environment ... and we're talking about little children and some of the nonsense they come up with ...

Go to a school board meeting ... tell the adults there exactly what you think ... hell, you can even lie to them ... there's your 1st Amendment right ...

Ahem, the school in question is a PUBLIC school. They do not have the right to expel students for something that wasn't done on school property. This is a slam dunk 1st Amendment case.

Correct.

If they can do that, than they could deny graduation to every religious kid, and claim the "separation of church and state".

Every "religious kids" has to meet the requirements of the State they attend school to graduate. Schools are licensed.

Point missed.

 

[ReinyDays]

If they can do that, than they could deny graduation to every religious kid, and claim the "separation of church and state".

Every "religious kids" has to meet the requirements of the State they attend school to graduate. Schools are licensed.

Is the religious kid causing imminent lawless actions on school grounds? ...

 

[JOSweetHeart]

If getting their GED can still take place, how much of a punishment was really handed out?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[Ame®icano]

If they can do that, than they could deny graduation to every religious kid, and claim the "separation of church and state".

Every "religious kids" has to meet the requirements of the State they attend school to graduate. Schools are licensed.

Is the religious kid causing imminent lawless actions on school grounds? ...

I was talking hypothetically, if they're allowed to deny graduation for one thing, they could do it for "just being religious", for example - wearing a cross pendant around the neck.

 

[lennypartiv]

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

First Amendments let's people say what they want.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

What about saying something people don’t like? Can the government punish you for speech made in your home and gets put on the Internet that is not violent, but racist?

One school district thinks it can.
Remember- the schools are closed until at best next September.

Wish I had a nickel for every stupid thing a teen said in the past year.

Carrollton High seniors expelled after racist video goes viral

Two Carrollton High School seniors were expelled Friday and won’t be allowed to graduate after a racist video they posted online went viral.

www.ajc.com

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

Why are they denied a graduation?
Answer: for words spoken.
Not the sharpest pencil in the cup, are you?

Guess I'll just post it again -- What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

You need a hint on this?

The language thereof:
"Congress shall make no Law...."

I've just word-searched the entire Constitution. "High Schools shall make no Law" was not found.

Here, horse. This is called "water".

Because a PUBLIC school is a government institution, brainlet. Do you need this in crayon?

The school has a responsibility to maintain a safe environment where all pupils can study free from violence and hatred. Having racists in the community is a direct assault on that. The school did the only thing it could do.

A school is a community and racism has no place in any civilised society.

 

[RealDave]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

What about saying something people don’t like? Can the government punish you for speech made in your home and gets put on the Internet that is not violent, but racist?

One school district thinks it can.
Remember- the schools are closed until at best next September.

Wish I had a nickel for every stupid thing a teen said in the past year.

Carrollton High seniors expelled after racist video goes viral

Two Carrollton High School seniors were expelled Friday and won’t be allowed to graduate after a racist video they posted online went viral.

www.ajc.com

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

Why are they denied a graduation?
Answer: for words spoken.
Not the sharpest pencil in the cup, are you?

So, words matter. A lot of employers would fire employees that did that.

We would demand a Congressman resign, a teacher fired if they did it.

 

[RealDave]

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

First Amendments let's people say what they want.

It does not say without consequences.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

What about saying something people don’t like? Can the government punish you for speech made in your home and gets put on the Internet that is not violent, but racist?

One school district thinks it can.
Remember- the schools are closed until at best next September.

Wish I had a nickel for every stupid thing a teen said in the past year.

Carrollton High seniors expelled after racist video goes viral

Two Carrollton High School seniors were expelled Friday and won’t be allowed to graduate after a racist video they posted online went viral.

www.ajc.com

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

God you are dense..... What does saying something in your own bathroom have to do with a school denying graduation?

Read the thread title much?

I'll just come back after you've caught up.

The School wouldn't have expelled the students had they been minority and in fact the School along with you would have defended their free speech and expression while telling those that were upset how they are racist bigot krackers!

Expelling people over what they say online on their dime is stupid but you applaud it as long as White people are the ones being punished but wait when it happens to blacks and see how fast you go full nutter and scream racism...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

First Amendments let's people say what they want.

It does not say without consequences.

You should post your real name so that your employer can read your mentally insane rants and let see if you agree that people should be fired or expelled for what they say online!

You know like you wanting to kill people that go outside while pretending it is The Walking Dead?

 

[RealDave]

Yelling fire in a crowded theater endangers people.

What about saying something people don’t like? Can the government punish you for speech made in your home and gets put on the Internet that is not violent, but racist?

One school district thinks it can.
Remember- the schools are closed until at best next September.

Wish I had a nickel for every stupid thing a teen said in the past year.

Carrollton High seniors expelled after racist video goes viral

Two Carrollton High School seniors were expelled Friday and won’t be allowed to graduate after a racist video they posted online went viral.

www.ajc.com

What does a school denying graduations have to do with the First Amendment?

God you are dense..... What does saying something in your own bathroom have to do with a school denying graduation?

Read the thread title much?

I'll just come back after you've caught up.

The School wouldn't have expelled the students had they been minority and in fact the School along with you would have defended their free speech and expression while telling those that were upset how they are racist bigot krackers!

Expelling people over what they say online on their dime is stupid but you applaud it as long as White people are the ones being punished but wait when it happens to blacks and see how fast you go full nutter and scream racism...

Poor baby white people. They get pissed off when they get called out for being the racist fucks that they are. And those evil black people, not knowing their place & demanding equality.