Teacher Demands Her Students Deny the Existence of God

[Skylar]

Funny that the same people who whine about "PC" are demanding it here.

Why are people so terrified of kids being taught to think for themselves?

Oh good. Then you have no issue of the 10 Commandments being taught in public school.

Being taught as what? Mythology?

10 Commandments as mythology? Whatever. America was founded upon that "mythology".
Left: Hypocriticus Maximus.

Many nations have been formed by mythology. That does not suddenly make mythology a "fact".

Then you're saying that Romulus and Remus *weren't* suckled by a she-wolf?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Critical thinking skills are designed to develop . . . thinking critically and employing tools to develop one's knowledge of a subject, among other reasons.

Any theist or atheist who has trouble with "Does God exist, not exist" as a critical thinking development essay is a loser.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Actually the student answered the question 100% correctly in saying "there is a god" might be fact and might be opinion.

We do not know if there is a God. Therefore the obvious answer is "opinion", but it is conceivable that through personal experience an individual knows there is a god, in which case it would be fact.

In either case assertion is also a correct answer, but since assertions can be facts, lies, or opinions the assignment is very poorly designed in requiring the students to choose the single "correct" answer.

Actually the student answered the question 100% correctly in saying "there is a god" might be fact and might be opinion.

We do not know if there is a God. Therefore the obvious answer is "opinion", but it is conceivable that through personal experience an individual knows there is a god, in which case it would be fact.

In either case assertion is also a correct answer, but since assertions can be facts, lies, or opinions the assignment is very poorly designed in requiring the students to choose the single "correct" answer.

Uh, no.

There was no "might be" in the question.

There is a God - fact, opinion, or commonplace assertion.

Commonplace assertion is the only real answer.

False. Why is it not an opinion?

A commonplace assertion can be an opinion or fact. It is stupid to ask a person to choose between assertion and fact/opinion when logically there is no difference. Apples to oranges. Fact/opinion regards the content. Assertion regards the manner of expression.

Stupid, worthless assignment designed as a backdoor Trojan to promote atheism/agnosticism.

Whose opinion is it? It is just a statement. Probably one of the most common place assertions in the world. Yes a person can opine that God is real.

If you agree that yes it can be an opinion, then why should the student have been marked wrong for that?

You had it right. It's all in the way it is stated, syntax. "Bob believes God is real" or "I think Gods are real" are opinions.

I don't have enough information about what the teacher said to have an opinion on what she should or should not have said to the student.

God being discussed in public schools period is only OK with Leftards when the topic is anti-God.

 

[Skylar]

Teacher Reportedly Tells Student God Doesn't Exist

Katy ISD Superintendent Alton Frailey said, "In the investigation those assertions were not corroborated by the other students. Was the activity graded? It was not graded. Was it 40 percent of their grade? Were the students told they had to deny God? No one corroborated that, at all."

Katy ISD siding with teacher after God question claims

Her assertions look to be both extremely specific.....and overwhelmingly fictitious. Which begs the question, if these events didn't happen as the 7th grader described them, where did she get her rather elaborate story?

From your link:


Jordan Wooley, 12, and her mother Chantel spoke in front of the Katy ISD school board to complain that the teacher told students that God is a myth and questioned his existence. Katy ISD says the teacher asked the students to participate in a school activity. They also say, the teacher explained that a commonplace assertion exists when there is room for debate.

^I hope mom and daughter make it to confession on Saturday.

Starting to look that way.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Funny that the same people who whine about "PC" are demanding it here.

Why are people so terrified of kids being taught to think for themselves?

Oh good. Then you have no issue of the 10 Commandments being taught in public school.

Being taught as what? Mythology?

10 Commandments as mythology? Whatever. America was founded upon that "mythology".
Left: Hypocriticus Maximus.

Many nations have been formed by mythology. That does not suddenly make mythology a "fact".

Then you're saying that Romulus and Remus *weren't* suckled by a she-wolf?

No more than an anti-Godist can disprove the existence of God.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Critical thinking skills are designed to develop . . . thinking critically and employing tools to develop one's knowledge of a subject, among other reasons.

Any theist or atheist who has trouble with "Does God exist, not exist" as a critical thinking development essay is a loser.

Any atheist who says they are 100% certain God does not exist is a liar or a nutter.

 

[Skylar]

Oh good. Then you have no issue of the 10 Commandments being taught in public school.

Being taught as what? Mythology?

10 Commandments as mythology? Whatever. America was founded upon that "mythology".
Left: Hypocriticus Maximus.

Many nations have been formed by mythology. That does not suddenly make mythology a "fact".

Then you're saying that Romulus and Remus *weren't* suckled by a she-wolf?

No more than an anti-Godist can disprove the existence of God.

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that Superman didn't come from Krypton.

You're really messing with my faith, brah.

 

[Skylar]

Critical thinking skills are designed to develop . . . thinking critically and employing tools to develop one's knowledge of a subject, among other reasons.

Any theist or atheist who has trouble with "Does God exist, not exist" as a critical thinking development essay is a loser.

Any atheist who says they are 100% certain God does not exist is a liar or a nutter.

Given that the teacher didn't nor is she an atheist....it looks like this entire situation was blown completely out of proportion by some rather specific lies.

I'm curious....did the 7th grader make them up? Or did her mother?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The teacher should be fired for violating the imaginary separation of church and state

 

[Ravi]

Next weeks lesson:

Guns kill people.

Fact
Opinion
or
Assertion

 

[BlindBoo]

Funny that the same people who whine about "PC" are demanding it here.

Why are people so terrified of kids being taught to think for themselves?

Oh good. Then you have no issue of the 10 Commandments being taught in public school.

Being taught as what? Mythology?

10 Commandments as mythology? Whatever. America was founded upon that "mythology".
Left: Hypocriticus Maximus.

BS. America was founded on tobacco.

 

[Skylar]

The teacher should be fired for violating the imaginary separation of church and state

I'm far more concerned about the impending lawsuit from the NBA on question number 5:

"Michael Jordan has a career average of 30.4 points per game."

 

[Davros]

Actually the student answered the question 100% correctly in saying "there is a god" might be fact and might be opinion.

We do not know if there is a God. Therefore the obvious answer is "opinion", but it is conceivable that through personal experience an individual knows there is a god, in which case it would be fact.

In either case assertion is also a correct answer, but since assertions can be facts, lies, or opinions the assignment is very poorly designed in requiring the students to choose the single "correct" answer.

Actually the student answered the question 100% correctly in saying "there is a god" might be fact and might be opinion.

We do not know if there is a God. Therefore the obvious answer is "opinion", but it is conceivable that through personal experience an individual knows there is a god, in which case it would be fact.

In either case assertion is also a correct answer, but since assertions can be facts, lies, or opinions the assignment is very poorly designed in requiring the students to choose the single "correct" answer.

Uh, no.

There was no "might be" in the question.

There is a God - fact, opinion, or commonplace assertion.

Commonplace assertion is the only real answer.

False. Why is it not an opinion?

A commonplace assertion can be an opinion or fact. It is stupid to ask a person to choose between assertion and fact/opinion when logically there is no difference. Apples to oranges. Fact/opinion regards the content. Assertion regards the manner of expression.

Stupid, worthless assignment designed as a backdoor Trojan to promote atheism/agnosticism.

Whose opinion is it? It is just a statement. Probably one of the most common place assertions in the world. Yes a person can opine that God is real.

If you agree that yes it can be an opinion, then why should the student have been marked wrong for that?

The student said it was an opinion and a fact, dope.

Were you homeschooled?

There's no use arguing with you. You just don't get it. Assertion, opinion, and fact were all correct answers.

 

[Davros]

Next weeks lesson:

Guns kill people.

Fact
Opinion
or
Assertion

None of the above. Lie.

 

[Davros]

Correction. Since it is a lie, it is neither fact nor opinion. Therefore assertion is the only correct answer of the three.

Putting assertion in there is a confusing apples to oranges comparison.

Waste of the students' time in order to promote atheism/agnosticism.

 

[Ravi]

Correction. Since it is a lie, it is neither fact nor opinion. Therefore assertion is the only correct answer of the three.

Putting assertion in there is a confusing apples to oranges comparison.

Waste of the students' time in order to promote atheism/agnosticism.

Not sure why you continue to lie with the evidence to the contrary.

Enjoy yourself.

 

[martybegan]

I was about to comment that the reaction would be the same.

You're proof of that.

Also proof that kids do need to learn how to differentiate between fact and opinion.

How about the difference between opinion and "commonplace assertion"? Care to boldly go where no man has gone before and take a stab at it?

"I believe God is real" is an opinion. "The Devil is real" is an assertion.

Wrong. "I believe God is real" is either a fact or a lie. "The Devil is real" is an assertion/opinion (which are the same thing).

Yawn:

Best Answer:fact---A real occurrence; an event:
a. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.

assertion--Something declared or stated positively, often with no support or attempt at proof.----The world will end tomorrow.

opinion--1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion

Difference between fact, opinion and assertion?

And why not teach that?

Why lie to kids?

I suspect "christians" are not strong enough in their own faith to withstand much questioning or examination. Do they believe that's true of students?

That's got to be the only reason for feeling so threatened by this.

If that's your view, then how do you explain the kerfluffle created by atheists when they see words on a stone in public? That's not even questioning, it's just there. Yet they seem to get the vapors about it.

Odd.

 

[BlindBoo]

Next weeks lesson:

Guns kill people.

Fact
Opinion
or
Assertion

None of the above. Lie.

It is a fact and an assertion.

 

[Davros]

Correction. Since it is a lie, it is neither fact nor opinion. Therefore assertion is the only correct answer of the three.

Putting assertion in there is a confusing apples to oranges comparison.

Waste of the students' time in order to promote atheism/agnosticism.

Not sure why you continue to lie with the evidence to the contrary.

Enjoy yourself.

What's the answer then. Was that or was that not an assertion? It was. If you deny it, then you are a liar.

It is a lie that guns kill people. That statement is both an assertion and a fact a.k.a. an assertion of fact.

 

[Davros]

Next weeks lesson:

Guns kill people.

Fact
Opinion
or
Assertion

None of the above. Lie.

It is a fact and an assertion.

A lie. Guns do not kill people. People kill people. Technically in the case when people use a gun to kill people, it is the bullets and not the gun that causes death. So regardless, you are wrong.

The statement was an assertion and a lie.