The Right Wing had better be right about this "Deep State" stuff.

[Theowl32]

I honestly don't know how to respond to that. If you take him seriously and literally, great.

Red didn't say he takes Trump's every utterance "seriously and literally" and I'd say much of what then candidate Trump said he would do he has tried to do. Do you find any of this to be unbelievable or contrary to our best interests:

Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.

Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.

A strong dollar and investment markets.

A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.

Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.

No wonder bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans they consider to be bad.

Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!

Well, again, I'm just talking about the man himself. He is simply not believable. He communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole and at a low intellectual level. If you're saying that you can forgive all that because you feel he's a good President, great.

I'm just saying that, if it were me, I would use another person for the Big Reveal. Or anything else that requires seriousness and credibility, for that matter.
.

Hello fuckball. Now that you been obliterated again, and since you don't want to address things like this.....



I will ask you a really really simple question fuckstick. Something so simple that even an assface socialist like you can answer it.

Specifically, what have we conservatives been wrong about in regards to our fucking claims that the Russian collusion bullshit was nothing more than an obvious political ploy that the democrats knew was a lie from the beginning and their only real intention was to FIND SOMETHING OR ANYTHING so that they could Al Capone Trump?

Since you ignore that yourkuuunt was caught illegally destroying over 30k emails and since we KNOW FOR A FACT that the fbi attempted a coup on the president, let us know where we have been wrong.

Yet, you claim with your fucking toad brain that Trump is not trustworthy as you wish hillary was president?

Loser


Well, where have we been wrong moron?

Red didn't say he takes Trump's every utterance "seriously and literally" and I'd say much of what then candidate Trump said he would do he has tried to do. Do you find any of this to be unbelievable or contrary to our best interests:

Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.

Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.

A strong dollar and investment markets.

A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.

Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.

No wonder bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans they consider to be bad.

Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!

Well, again, I'm just talking about the man himself. He is simply not believable. He communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole and at a low intellectual level. If you're saying that you can forgive all that because you feel he's a good President, great.

I'm just saying that, if it were me, I would use another person for the Big Reveal. Or anything else that requires seriousness and credibility, for that matter.
.

Hello fuckball. Now that you been obliterated again, and since you don't want to address things like this.....



I will ask you a really really simple question fuckstick. Something so simple that even an assface socialist like you can answer it.

Specifically, what have we conservatives been wrong about in regards to our fucking claims that the Russian collusion bullshit was nothing more than an obvious political ploy that the democrats knew was a lie from the beginning and their only real intention was to FIND SOMETHING OR ANYTHING so that they could Al Capone Trump?

Since you ignore that yourkuuunt was caught illegally destroying over 30k emails and since we KNOW FOR A FACT that the fbi attempted a coup on the president, let us know where we have been wrong.

Yet, you claim with your fucking toad brain that Trump is not trustworthy as you wish hillary was president?

Loser


Well, where have we been wrong moron?

I don't know yet. You might be right.

I've really tried to explain this issues vs. behaviors thing to you, but you just seem to lack the capacity to understand.

I'm really trying to help.
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Just so we are all on the same page, I have a question------------->

If 85% of what we are saying ends up being the facts, and is proven, and if it is discovered through testimony that the orders came from the Oval Office down to Brennan,

SHOULD,

1. President Obama be retroactively impeached. (and yes, they can do that, forcing him to be unable to ever hold another electable office)

2. Should Joe Biden be forced out of the Presidential race by his own party, or by legal means? (and yes, they can do that too)

3. Should Hillary Clinton be at the very least, booted from the DNC?

4. Should the FBI charters on FISA warrants, be re-written, and should a new cabinet member be installed for government ethics?

5. The meat puppet faggot, Valerie Jarret, hitlery should be hanged on the WH Lawn for treason. The entire moonbat messiah's administration should be thrown in GITMO if they're found guilty of anything, everyone who was hired or promoted during the years 2009-2016 should be fired throughout the federal government. Including kitchen staff at national parks. The entire federal government needs to be expunged and replaced by people who have either never registered to vote, or never voted for a democrook.

Or...

Valerie Jarrett....

Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

 

[Polishprince]

Valerie Jarrett....

Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

Until that whole Roseanne incident blew up, I didn't even realize that Ms. Jarrett was a black broad.

I thought she was a native Iranian.

I think a lot of people thought that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

...as long as they stir up shit they could care less about right/wrong or honesty/dishonesty.

I dunno. They're absolutely sold on this, as much as they've been sold on anything.
.

inscurity needs a boogie man

Who would know that better than you?

everyone who can see his picture saluting a communist ????

Why not? He shook hands with another Communist thug dictator.

 

[Pete7469]

Valerie Jarrett....

Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...

Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You mocked me two weeks ago for pointing out this fact.

That's because being in this condition is a CHOICE that WINGERS are making.

The rest of us, the majority, would rather see the wingers find another hobby.
.

Yeah, it's not like you leftists refused to accept the 2016 election and have staged a 2 year attempted coup or anything, nah it's those Republicans and their crime of defeating Hillary that is the problem.

You clearly don't know my politics.

But I know - anyone who isn't an obedient Trumpster is a radical pinko commie socialist Hitler Stalinist Maoist Nazi commie commie.

You folks are silly.
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Now that was UNCALLED for Mac.

Your people have been giving President Trump a rectal for almost 2 years, laughing, singing cumbaya, while telling everyone who would listen, Trump is going down.

Now it is your sides turn! We listened to you (your side) tell us he was treasonous, a Russian stooge, a mobster, and a host of other things. Now we return the favor, yet you tell us, we are off the rails?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

It is useless for me to try and convince you by using your own logical thinking skills. But I will say, that after 2 years of YOU being told all of these things by YOUR media, and your PEEPS, only to find out they LIED to you, I would expect you to be more circumspect.

You should know me better than that. I've been saying all along that the Trump investigations have been political. I haven't supported any of it.

And that's all this is - payback? That's it? I guess I'm not surprised.

This is why I find both parties repulsive.
.

It's not "payback," it's justice. Our Republic cannot survive banana republic coups like this one Obama and the democrats engaged in. We must return to a nation of law.

This why I've said that Strzok and McCabe MUST be given the death penalty for treason. When Timothy McVeigh attacked the Murrah building, his goal was not to murder people but rather to undermine the foundation of the Republic. For that reason he HAD to be executed, it was necessary to the preservation of the Republic.

What Obama did, carried out by McCabe and Strzok, is every bit as much an attack on the foundation of this Republic as what McVeigh did. The mechanisms of treason were very different, but both were acts of treason meant to destabilize the nation in hopes of creating circumstances of dissolution.

 

[Tehon]

There is no doubt the Deep State exists. It has been in place for decades. However I would question just about anything promoted by Hannity and Levin. Partisans of either party can’t be trusted.

There is no doubt you're full of shit. There is no Deep State. That's a lie Putin tells Trump and you believe it.

Lol
You obviously don’t understand, high-level civilian employees make up the deep state/swamp exclusively

Trump is part of the deep state.

 

[Uncensored2008]

brothers and sisters: if we drag this out until the 2020 election, and Trump wins again, i guarantee you that's the end of democracy!

IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45! IMPEACH 45!

/——/ Will Maxine be screeching Impeach 46, Impeach 46?

If it's a Repub she will … particularly if it's a white male. Dems love their identity politics and hate white men.
Of course, she and all the bitter, petulant Dems must survive 5 1/2 more years of #45 first.

/—-/ Won’t Trump be 46 when re-elected? There is a school of thought that each term is a new president regardless of one who is re-elected.

No there isn't.

G.W. Bush served 2 terms and was #43. Obama served 2 terms and was #44.

Trump will serve 2 terms and be #45.

Whatever Repub follows Trump will serve 2 terms and be #46.

I’m curious. Who would vote for Donald Trump? Because Russians aren’t allowed to vote in this country.

Yo, fucking liar;

{
The investigation did not establish any agreement among Campaign officials or between such officials and Russia-linked individuals to interfere with or obstruct a lawful function of a government agency during the campaign or transition period. And, as discussed in Volume 1, Section V.A, supra, the investigation did not identify evidence that any Campaign official or associate knowingly and intentionally participated in the conspiracy to defraud that the Office charged, namely, the active-measures conspiracy described in Volume 1, Section II, supra.

Accordingly, the Office did not charge any Campaign associate or other US. person with conspiracy to defraud the United States based on the Russia-related contacts described in Section IV above.

}

You really are a stupid little turd.

 

[Rustic]

There is no doubt the Deep State exists. It has been in place for decades. However I would question just about anything promoted by Hannity and Levin. Partisans of either party can’t be trusted.

There is no doubt you're full of shit. There is no Deep State. That's a lie Putin tells Trump and you believe it.

Lol
You obviously don’t understand, high-level civilian employees make up the deep state/swamp exclusively

Trump is part of the deep state.

Lol
If he becomes a career politician sure… But up to this point he certainly is not acting like any career politician. And he tells high-level civilian federal employees, Who make up the majority of the deep state to fuck off on a regular basis… And that’s a good thing.

 

[mudwhistle]

Your credibility is shot.
You've already admitted to voting for Hillary, even though you acted like you were a Ted Cruise supporter.
It's difficult to believe anything you say anymore.

Sounds good, thanks!

The day I'm credible to partisan zombies is the day I worry a bit.
.

Says the leftist conman.
I noticed you didn't deny a word I said.

Okay, I'll play.

Please list the issues on which I have said I agree with Ted Cruz.

Go!
.

Only one.....when he was still in the race he was against Trump.
That's the only issue you verbally agreed with.
Every other issue you agree with Democrats.

Wrong. I've never supported him, ever. And you can't provide an example.

And somehow you must have missed my thousands of posts about PC, Identity Politics and the Regressive Left.

Why can't you just be honest? Is that not allowed any more? Would you get in trouble?
.

You just don't remember the few posts supporting Ted Cruz.
Maybe it was just your attempt to undermine Trump, but you clearly stated that you supported Cruz over Trump.
Oh, and anyone who admits they voted for Hillary also admits they don't seem to mind her baggage.
All of the PC, MeToo, and Identity Politics wouldn't be possible or even exist without Hillary and her husband paving the way. After all.....Hillary was a Alinsky disciple just like Obama. She's also anti-Semitic and pro-Islamic. Socialists, Progressives, anti-Americans, and Communists......and Homosexuals. This is what you support when you support Hillary or any other Democrat.

 

[Mac1958]

Sounds good, thanks!

The day I'm credible to partisan zombies is the day I worry a bit.
.

Says the leftist conman.
I noticed you didn't deny a word I said.

Okay, I'll play.

Please list the issues on which I have said I agree with Ted Cruz.

Go!
.

Only one.....when he was still in the race he was against Trump.
That's the only issue you verbally agreed with.
Every other issue you agree with Democrats.

Wrong. I've never supported him, ever. And you can't provide an example.

And somehow you must have missed my thousands of posts about PC, Identity Politics and the Regressive Left.

Why can't you just be honest? Is that not allowed any more? Would you get in trouble?
.

You just don't remember the few posts supporting Ted Cruz.
Maybe it was just your attempt to undermine Trump, but you clearly stated that supported Cruz over Trump.
Oh, and anyone who admits they voted for Hillary also admits they don't seem to mind her baggage.
All of the PC, MeToo, and Identity Politics wouldn't be possible or even exist without Hillary and her husband paving the way. After all.....Hillary was a Alinsky disciple just like Obama. She's also anti-Semitic and pro-Islamic. Socialists, Progressives, anti-Americans, and Communists......and Homosexuals. This is what you support when you support Hillary or any other Democrat.

Nope, never did, and you still can't provide a post in which I did. The search function works well enough to do so.

And you know quite well that I have regular run-ins with the Regressives on multiple topics.

Fundamental intellectual honesty just ain't that tough, I swear.
.

 

[Rustic]

Sounds good, thanks!

The day I'm credible to partisan zombies is the day I worry a bit.
.

Says the leftist conman.
I noticed you didn't deny a word I said.

Okay, I'll play.

Please list the issues on which I have said I agree with Ted Cruz.

Go!
.

Only one.....when he was still in the race he was against Trump.
That's the only issue you verbally agreed with.
Every other issue you agree with Democrats.

Wrong. I've never supported him, ever. And you can't provide an example.

And somehow you must have missed my thousands of posts about PC, Identity Politics and the Regressive Left.

Why can't you just be honest? Is that not allowed any more? Would you get in trouble?
.

You just don't remember the few posts supporting Ted Cruz.
Maybe it was just your attempt to undermine Trump, but you clearly stated that supported Cruz over Trump.
Oh, and anyone who admits they voted for Hillary also admits they don't seem to mind her baggage.
All of the PC, MeToo, and Identity Politics wouldn't be possible or even exist without Hillary and her husband paving the way. After all.....Hillary was a Alinsky disciple just like Obama. She's also anti-Semitic and pro-Islamic. Socialists, Progressives, anti-Americans, and Communists......and Homosexuals. This is what you support when you support Hillary or any other Democrat.

Lol
Yep, Like I’ve always said all progressives are fucked in the head. And political correctness makes people fucking retarded

 

[impuretrash]

So here we go, I guess.

This is no longer going to be some fevered conspiracy story born of one of Mark Levin's fevered hyper-partisan conspiracy books. It's no longer going to be the foundation of President Hannity's hyper-partisan radio and teevee shows, buttressed by the manic "reporting" of his small band of like-minded "investigative reporters" (Out-of-Control Sean Hannity Thumbs His Nose at Fox News Bosses).

It's no longer going to be this alternate-universe "blockbuster" narrative that a relatively small group of people know like the back of their hand, as if they're convinced that "Breaking Bad" or "Game of Thrones" are documentaries.

You're accusing the American government, all the way to the top, of conspiring to spy on and bring down a presidential candidate and an American President. Key players in this accusation include a Special Counsel, a former Director of National Intelligence, a former FBI Director, former Secretary of State and a former President. Not to mention any number of lower-level government conspirators. The Deep State.

Bottom line: If you folks are right about this whole thing, it's a huge, historic story and must be addressed with historic attention, seriousness and care. If it's just a product of your fevered alternate universe, you deserve whatever you get.

Hopefully we'll soon know, once and for all, what actually happened. If anything.
.

Mac, I believe there is definitely a 'Deep State". However it is not the one Republicans claim is populated by liberals to cover up the real threat. While these Republicans have everyone looking 'over there' for subversive activities, the real Deep State is slogging along quietly replacing traditional agencies like FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA and the entire judicial system. William Barr is the front man.

Trump is now tossing around words like 'treason' and its punishment of 'death penalty' while naming off several people who have tried to call him to account. At this time he is unable to take any action, but with what he has gotten away with, and his Barr support and Republican Senate compliance, I genuinely fear the day is coming when Trump's whims will be the law of the land. This kind of power does not happen overnight, but slowly and bit by bit until it is suddenly solid and impervious to old laws. I am certain that if Trump could act the despot with life/death powers, he would, and even will when it is too late to stop him. And I am also certain the Kim Jong Un has nothing on him when it comes to inhumane brutality.

Well, Trump clearly gets his talking points and words and phrases from talk radio, so at least we know not to take him seriously.

At the same time, however, they're trotting out evidence on this thing that appears to be solid, so there is at least some smoke. If they can somehow turn down their characteristic goofy hyperbole, they may be able to make some headway. At very least, this thing needs to be examined fully.

99% of what I've heard about this has come from the Right, so all I want is a full hearing. I'm assuming we'll get there.
.

Wanna talk about goofy hyperbole?

try re-reading the post you just responded to.

 

[impuretrash]

There is no doubt the Deep State exists. It has been in place for decades. However I would question just about anything promoted by Hannity and Levin. Partisans of either party can’t be trusted.

There is no doubt you're full of shit. There is no Deep State. That's a lie Putin tells Trump and you believe it.

Lol
You obviously don’t understand, high-level civilian employees make up the deep state/swamp exclusively

Trump is part of the deep state.

That's an interesting theory. Did he become a part of the deep state after the election, and after he and his entire family was threatened with prison, or before?

 

[Mac1958]

So here we go, I guess.

This is no longer going to be some fevered conspiracy story born of one of Mark Levin's fevered hyper-partisan conspiracy books. It's no longer going to be the foundation of President Hannity's hyper-partisan radio and teevee shows, buttressed by the manic "reporting" of his small band of like-minded "investigative reporters" (Out-of-Control Sean Hannity Thumbs His Nose at Fox News Bosses).

It's no longer going to be this alternate-universe "blockbuster" narrative that a relatively small group of people know like the back of their hand, as if they're convinced that "Breaking Bad" or "Game of Thrones" are documentaries.

You're accusing the American government, all the way to the top, of conspiring to spy on and bring down a presidential candidate and an American President. Key players in this accusation include a Special Counsel, a former Director of National Intelligence, a former FBI Director, former Secretary of State and a former President. Not to mention any number of lower-level government conspirators. The Deep State.

Bottom line: If you folks are right about this whole thing, it's a huge, historic story and must be addressed with historic attention, seriousness and care. If it's just a product of your fevered alternate universe, you deserve whatever you get.

Hopefully we'll soon know, once and for all, what actually happened. If anything.
.

Mac, I believe there is definitely a 'Deep State". However it is not the one Republicans claim is populated by liberals to cover up the real threat. While these Republicans have everyone looking 'over there' for subversive activities, the real Deep State is slogging along quietly replacing traditional agencies like FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA and the entire judicial system. William Barr is the front man.

Trump is now tossing around words like 'treason' and its punishment of 'death penalty' while naming off several people who have tried to call him to account. At this time he is unable to take any action, but with what he has gotten away with, and his Barr support and Republican Senate compliance, I genuinely fear the day is coming when Trump's whims will be the law of the land. This kind of power does not happen overnight, but slowly and bit by bit until it is suddenly solid and impervious to old laws. I am certain that if Trump could act the despot with life/death powers, he would, and even will when it is too late to stop him. And I am also certain the Kim Jong Un has nothing on him when it comes to inhumane brutality.

Well, Trump clearly gets his talking points and words and phrases from talk radio, so at least we know not to take him seriously.

At the same time, however, they're trotting out evidence on this thing that appears to be solid, so there is at least some smoke. If they can somehow turn down their characteristic goofy hyperbole, they may be able to make some headway. At very least, this thing needs to be examined fully.

99% of what I've heard about this has come from the Right, so all I want is a full hearing. I'm assuming we'll get there.
.

Wanna talk about goofy hyperbole?

try re-reading the post you just responded to.

As I say all the time, the two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
.

 

[Rustic]

So here we go, I guess.

This is no longer going to be some fevered conspiracy story born of one of Mark Levin's fevered hyper-partisan conspiracy books. It's no longer going to be the foundation of President Hannity's hyper-partisan radio and teevee shows, buttressed by the manic "reporting" of his small band of like-minded "investigative reporters" (Out-of-Control Sean Hannity Thumbs His Nose at Fox News Bosses).

It's no longer going to be this alternate-universe "blockbuster" narrative that a relatively small group of people know like the back of their hand, as if they're convinced that "Breaking Bad" or "Game of Thrones" are documentaries.

You're accusing the American government, all the way to the top, of conspiring to spy on and bring down a presidential candidate and an American President. Key players in this accusation include a Special Counsel, a former Director of National Intelligence, a former FBI Director, former Secretary of State and a former President. Not to mention any number of lower-level government conspirators. The Deep State.

Bottom line: If you folks are right about this whole thing, it's a huge, historic story and must be addressed with historic attention, seriousness and care. If it's just a product of your fevered alternate universe, you deserve whatever you get.

Hopefully we'll soon know, once and for all, what actually happened. If anything.
.

Mac, I believe there is definitely a 'Deep State". However it is not the one Republicans claim is populated by liberals to cover up the real threat. While these Republicans have everyone looking 'over there' for subversive activities, the real Deep State is slogging along quietly replacing traditional agencies like FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA and the entire judicial system. William Barr is the front man.

Trump is now tossing around words like 'treason' and its punishment of 'death penalty' while naming off several people who have tried to call him to account. At this time he is unable to take any action, but with what he has gotten away with, and his Barr support and Republican Senate compliance, I genuinely fear the day is coming when Trump's whims will be the law of the land. This kind of power does not happen overnight, but slowly and bit by bit until it is suddenly solid and impervious to old laws. I am certain that if Trump could act the despot with life/death powers, he would, and even will when it is too late to stop him. And I am also certain the Kim Jong Un has nothing on him when it comes to inhumane brutality.

Well, Trump clearly gets his talking points and words and phrases from talk radio, so at least we know not to take him seriously.

At the same time, however, they're trotting out evidence on this thing that appears to be solid, so there is at least some smoke. If they can somehow turn down their characteristic goofy hyperbole, they may be able to make some headway. At very least, this thing needs to be examined fully.

99% of what I've heard about this has come from the Right, so all I want is a full hearing. I'm assuming we'll get there.
.

Wanna talk about goofy hyperbole?

try re-reading the post you just responded to.

As I say all the time, the two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
.

Lol
Getting along is way overrated… Just leave it at that

 

[Mac1958]

Getting along is way overrated… Just leave it at that

Well, it's definitely beyond the capacity of some.
.

 

[Tehon]

There is no doubt the Deep State exists. It has been in place for decades. However I would question just about anything promoted by Hannity and Levin. Partisans of either party can’t be trusted.

There is no doubt you're full of shit. There is no Deep State. That's a lie Putin tells Trump and you believe it.

Lol
You obviously don’t understand, high-level civilian employees make up the deep state/swamp exclusively

Trump is part of the deep state.

That's an interesting theory. Did he become a part of the deep state after the election, and after he and his entire family was threatened with prison, or before?

I think he becomes part of it, after the election.

 

[Rustic]

Getting along is way overrated… Just leave it at that

Well, it's definitely beyond the capacity of some.
.

We need more disagreeing in this country, and independence. Strengthen the 10th amendment

 

[Mac1958]

Getting along is way overrated… Just leave it at that

Well, it's definitely beyond the capacity of some.

We need more disagreeing in this country, and independence. Strengthen the 10th amendment

Communication and collaboration, and the innovation that can come from it, isn't easy. There will always be people who are best to just sit it out.
.

 

[Theowl32]

Valerie Jarrett....

Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...

Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

Another hypocritical way of the left (yet another.) They insist that we are all apes. We indeed are primates. We are indeed OMNIVOROUS primates.

Yet, if any of us acknowledge that and include THE BLACKS, all of a sudden we RAAACISTS.