The rise of fascism, nationalism and populism today

[ZZ PUPPS]

Tell that to the europeans. Trump lives in reality and is well aware of terrorism here. Downplaying 9/11, Boston Marathon, Florida hightclub, Ft. Hood, San Bernadino and God knows what they managed to stop ...is just bizarre!

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

Why....what does registration accomplish? So far...all it leads to is eventual confiscation of guns.....with no deterrent effect on gun crime...

Read what I wrote again, in context.

 

[Coyote]

"Muslim registry will never happen. THIS IS AMERICA."

Yes. And in America we registered Japanese, German and Italian Americans. We confiscated their property and froze their assets. We put them in internment camps. IN AMERICA.

That was during a declaration of war, coyote.

And that somehow makes it right or different? Now we have the so-called "War against terrorism" or as some would call it war against Islam.

So what exactly are you saying NLT, that you agree with registering American citizens, confiscating their property, interning them indefinately?

No...that is what a democrat did to American citizens...we don't want to let democrats do that again.....

Only one politician opposed the internment, Republican Governor Carr of Colorado. The rest, Republican and Democrat were behind it.

As for today?

Nearly 50% of Trump Supporters in Iowa Think Japanese Internment Camps Were a Good Idea
Trump supporter cites Japanese internment 'precedent' in backing Muslim registry

 

[Coyote]

But that is exactly what is happening now isn't it?

For example, look at relative risk. The risk of being injured or killed in an Islamic terrorist incident is so low as to be riiculous. You are more likely to be hit by lightening, killed by a drunk driver, or shot in random violence. Yet instead of evaluating and reacting to real risk, we react to percieved risk and call on our politiicans to base their policies on that. That is exactly what Trump is doing.

Tell that to the europeans. Trump lives in reality and is well aware of terrorism here. Downplaying 9/11, Boston Marathon, Florida hightclub, Ft. Hood, San Bernadino and God knows what they managed to stop ...is just bizarre!

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

 

[owebo]

Tell that to the europeans. Trump lives in reality and is well aware of terrorism here. Downplaying 9/11, Boston Marathon, Florida hightclub, Ft. Hood, San Bernadino and God knows what they managed to stop ...is just bizarre!

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

We are all registered....perhaps that should concern you more....

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

Tell that to the europeans. Trump lives in reality and is well aware of terrorism here. Downplaying 9/11, Boston Marathon, Florida hightclub, Ft. Hood, San Bernadino and God knows what they managed to stop ...is just bizarre!

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

No, no religions need their members registered. Terrorist organizations need to registered, tried and punished.

 

[Iceweasel]

Tell that to the europeans. Trump lives in reality and is well aware of terrorism here. Downplaying 9/11, Boston Marathon, Florida hightclub, Ft. Hood, San Bernadino and God knows what they managed to stop ...is just bizarre!

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

 

[Coyote]

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

We are all registered....perhaps that should concern you more....

Not at all.

 

[Coyote]

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

No, no religions need their members registered. Terrorist organizations need to registered, tried and punished.

They already are.

 

[owebo]

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

We are all registered....perhaps that should concern you more....

Not at all.

Then stop worrying about it if it's not a concern of yours....

 

[Coyote]

But down playing the risks of gun violence....isn't bizarre? How about reacting to real risk vs perceived risk?

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

Guns are objects, like cars. Freedom of religion and the right to bear arms are rights. But they aren't unlimited.

 

[Coyote]

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

We are all registered....perhaps that should concern you more....

Not at all.

Then stop worrying about it if it's not a concern of yours....

The government registering people of a certain religion, and talking about reviving internment camps shouldn't be a concern of ours?

 

[owebo]

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

Guns are objects, like cars. Freedom of religion and the right to bear arms are rights. But they aren't unlimited.

They should be.....

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

No, no religions need their members registered. Terrorist organizations need to registered, tried and punished.

They already are.

And that is where we disagree. Please list the registration body of the Boston Bombers, Fl nightclub shooter, etc.

 

[Coyote]

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

Guns are objects, like cars. Freedom of religion and the right to bear arms are rights. But they aren't unlimited.

They should be.....

Why?

Rights are typically limited when the conflict with another's rights or public safety. You think that is a bad idea?

 

[owebo]

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

We are all registered....perhaps that should concern you more....

Not at all.

Then stop worrying about it if it's not a concern of yours....

The government registering people of a certain religion, and talking about reviving internment camps shouldn't be a concern of ours?

I voted Trump to stop you liberals from doing that....

What did you do?

 

[owebo]

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

Guns are objects, like cars. Freedom of religion and the right to bear arms are rights. But they aren't unlimited.

They should be.....

Why?

Rights are typically limited when the conflict with another's rights or public safety. You think that is a bad idea?

You mean freedom is taken....a right is a right, not limited by anything.....

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

We are all registered....perhaps that should concern you more....

Not at all.

Then stop worrying about it if it's not a concern of yours....

The government registering people of a certain religion, and talking about reviving internment camps shouldn't be a concern of ours?

What government is doing that?

 

[Coyote]

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

No, no religions need their members registered. Terrorist organizations need to registered, tried and punished.

They already are.

And that is where we disagree. Please list the registration body of the Boston Bombers, Fl nightclub shooter, etc.

Terrorist groups are registered or listed as terrorist groups by the FBI, for example. If people are suspected of being associated with them, I'm sure records are maintained.

 

[Iceweasel]

There's no such thing as gun violence. You are a world class equivocator. No gun has decided to kill in the name of their blood thirsty god.

Using the same logic: religion doesn't kill, people do. Right? Religion is just a tool.

And those particular tool owners should be registered.

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

Guns are objects, like cars. Freedom of religion and the right to bear arms are rights. But they aren't unlimited.

We aren't required to offer said rights to any swinging dick out there, that's the point. It the region is full of problems we better see if they are worthy of those rights, not offer it up like candy.

 

[Coyote]

So we should require all religious people to register?

You're the one comparing religion to guns and guns to cars. You're all over the place.

Guns are objects, like cars. Freedom of religion and the right to bear arms are rights. But they aren't unlimited.

They should be.....

Why?

Rights are typically limited when the conflict with another's rights or public safety. You think that is a bad idea?

You mean freedom is taken....a right is a right, not limited by anything.....

Sure it is. Your right to free speech stops short of invoking a riot for example. Your freedom of expression doesn't give you the right to punch me in the nose.