Trump Repeats Conservatives’ Favorite False Version Of History

[Rambunctious]

It's amazing to watch....the more Hillary slides in the polls the more we hear the word Race from the idiot liberal world. The racists today are on the left just like 75 years ago.

There are media racist on TV every night looking at skin color first and foremost, there are racists in academia spouting fictitious lessens everyday in the propaganda rooms errrrr classrooms of America.

Racism never left the democrats...they just got real good at hiding it. Actually they are not that good at hiding it, but they have been very good at dumbing down their supporters with bad schools and cheap handouts.

WAKE UP INNER CITIES...you deserve much better. Don't throw your life away.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Who said, "I'll have them ******* voting Democrat for the next 200 year?" A Democrat or a Republican?

They'll probably tell you LBJ was a secret Republican.

 

[rightwinger]

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Its not surprising that Donald Trump would make this argument. What is surprising is how it took him so long to get to this point.



“The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not bad,” said Trump, speaking at a rally in the Seattle suburb of Everett. “Not bad. It’s also the party of freedom, equality and opportunity.”



“It is the Democratic Party that is the party of slavery, the party of Jim Crow and the party of opposition,” Trump said, drawing boos from the supportive crowd, which was heavily white.

As the Washington Post reported, Trump was reading from prepared remarks, which sometimes gives him trouble: his mention of “party of opposition,” for example, was supposed to be “party of oppression.”



However, it was only a matter of time before Trump, being more pundit than candidate, cited one of the more popular historical arguments embraced by conservatives.



Unfortunately for the Republican presidential nominee, it’s a point he doesn’t seem to understand especially well.



It doesn’t matter how often conservatives are reminded of their gross error in historic fact, Trump is eagerly spreading this particular piece of right wing BS. So, here is another reminder of the facts concerning the GOP’s and Democrats’ racial history.



The Democratic Party, in the first half of the 20th century, was home to two broad, competing constituencies: southern whites with abhorrent views on race, and white progressives and African Americans in the north, who sought to advance the cause of civil rights. The party struggled with this conflict for years, before ultimately siding with an inclusive, liberal agenda.



The result was a dramatic shift in both parties. After “Dixiecrats” began their exodus in 1948, and in the wake of LBJ signing the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the Republican Party welcomed segregationists who no longer felt comfortable in the Democratic Party. Indeed, in 1964, Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater boasted of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act, and made it part of his platform.



It was right around this time when figures like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond made the transition – leaving the progressive, diverse, tolerant Democratic Party for the intolerant, conservative GOP.



In the years that followed, Democrats embraced their role as the party of inclusion, while Republicans became the party of the “Southern Strategy” (which is another fact right-wingers consistently deny), and the opposition to affirmative action. The GOP campaigns then turned to race-baiting, vote-caging, discriminatory voter-ID laws, and other unethical methods by politicians like Helms, Thurmond, and others and continues to this day.



To be sure, Trump’s surface-level understanding of history isn’t entirely wrong: Southern Democrats were, for generations after the Civil War, on the wrong side of the issue. Practically all of the major segregationists of that era were Dixiecrats.



The problem, however, is with the relevance of the observation. Which matters more in contemporary politics: that segregationists were Southern Democrats or that segregationists made a new home in the Republican Party in the latter half of the 20th century?



Democrats have no reason to ignore this or sweep history under the rug: they eventually got it right, and dispatched the segregationists to the GOP, which welcomed them in the party fold.



If history ended a half-century ago, Trump may have a slightly more legitimate point. But given what we’ve seen over the last 50 years, the more salient point is that Democrats have been part of the solution, not part of the problem, on race. This is something conservatives are loath to admit.



Trump calls Democrats the party of ‘slavery’ and ‘Jim Crow’





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Please let us know when these DemocRATs joined the Republican Party. TIA
LIST OF SEGREGATIONISTS DURING THE AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT (1955-1968)


This is a list of segregationists during the American Civil Rights Movement (1955-1968). Many public figures, particularly in the South, defended compulsory racial segregation as an institution during the Civil Rights Movement, and many others did not condemn it. .Please note there are only three Republicans on the list.

• Dale Alford, United States Representative of Arkansas (Democrat)
• Taddy Aycock, Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
• Ross Barnett, Governor of Mississippi (Democrat).
• Bill Beeny
• Hale Boggs, United States Representative of Louisiana (Democrat).
• Albert Boutwell, Lieutenant Governor of Alabama (Democrat).
• Bryant Bowles, white supremacist organizer in Florida.
• Parey Branton, State Representative of Louisiana (Democrat).
• Overton Brooks, United States Representative of Louisiana (Democrat).
• William F. Buckley, Jr., National Review editor (Republican).
• C. Farris Bryant, Governor of Florida (Democrat).
• Garland T. Byrd, Lieutenant Governor of Georgia (Democrat).
• Harry F. Byrd, Governor and U.S. senator of Virginia (Democrat).
• Harry F. Byrd, Jr., U.S. senator of Virginia (Democrat-turned-Independent).
• Robert Byrd, United States Senator, West Virginia (Democrat).
• Howard "Bo" Callaway, United States Representative, Georgia (Republican).
• Francis Cherry, Governor of Arkansas (Democrat).
• Kent Courtney, activist from Louisiana (Democrat-turned-Independent).
• Jimmie Davis, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
• Vail M. Delony, Speaker of the Louisiana House of Representatives from Lake Providence (Democrat).
• Wickliffe Draper
• James Eastland, United States Senator, Mississippi (Democrat).
• Allen J. Ellender, United States Senator, Louisiana (Democrat).
• Jerry Falwell, conservative evangelist (Republican).
• Clyde Fant, Mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana (Democrat).
• Orval Faubus, Governor of Arkansas (Democrat).
• William Fulbright, United States Senator, Arkansas (Democrat).
• John Sidney Garrett, State Representative, Louisiana (Democrat).
• Peter Zack Geer, Lieutenant Governor of Georgia (Democrat).
• James H. Gray, Sr., Georgia Democratic state chairman.
• Marvin Griffin, Governor of Georgia (Democrat).
• Jack P.F. Gremillion, Attorney General of Louisiana (Democrat).
• F. Edward Hebert, U.S. representative from Louisiana (Democrat).
• Jesse Helms, United States Senator, North Carolina (Democrat 1942-1970, Republican 1970-2008).
• Lister Hill, United States Senator, Alabama (Democrat).
• Orville L. Hubbard, Mayor, Dearborn, Michigan.
• Wellborn Jack, State Representative of Louisiana (Democrat).
• Shelby M. Jackson, Superintendent of Public Education, Louisiana (Democrat).
• James D. Johnson, Arkansas Supreme Court justice (Democrat).
• Paul B. Johnson, Jr., Governor of Mississippi (Democrat).
• J. Bennett Johnston, Jr., United States Senator, Louisiana (Democrat).
• Bob Jones, Sr., Evangelist.
• B. Everett Jordan, United States Senator, North Carolina (Democrat).
• Robert F. Kennon, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
• James J. Kilpatrick, Columnist, Virginia (Democrat)
• Russell B. Long, United States Senator, Louisiana (Democrat).
• Speedy O. Long, United States Representative, Louisiana (Democrat).
• Trent Lott, U.S. Senator, (Republican)
• Charlton Lyons, State Chairman, Louisiana Republican Party.
• Lester Maddox, Governor of Georgia (Democrat, American Independent).
• James D. Martin, United States Representative, Alabama (Republican).
• John McClellan, United States Senator, Arkansas (Democrat).
• John McKeithen, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
• Harold Montgomery, Louisiana state senator (Democrat)
• Danny Roy Moore, Louisiana state senator (Democrat)
• deLesseps Story Morrison, Mayor of New Orleans (Democrat)
• W. Lee O'Daniel, Governor of Texas (Democrat)
• John H. Overton, U.S. senator from Louisiana (Democrat)
• Otto Passman, U.S. representative from northeastern Louisiana (Democrat)
• John Malcolm Patterson, Governor of Alabama (Democrat)
• Dave L. Pearce, Louisiana Agricultural Commissioner (Democrat)
• Leander Perez, Louisiana judge (Democrat)
• Rubel Phillips, Mississippi lawyer (Republican)
• William M. Rainach, Louisiana state senator (Democrat)
• John Rarick, United States Representative of Louisiana (Democrat, Independent, American Independent)
• A. Willis Robertson, U.S. senator from Virginia (Democrat)
• Richard B. Russell, U.S. senator from Georgia (Democrat)
• Victor Schiro, Mayor of New Orleans (Democrat)
• George W. Shannon, Louisiana journalist
• Gerald L. K. Smith, evangelist from Louisiana and Arkansas (Demorat)
• Howard W. Smith, United States Representative from Virginia (Democrat).
• John Sparkman, U.S. senator from Alabama (Democrat)
• John C. Stennis, United States Senator from Mississippi (Democrat).
• Ford E. Stinson, State Representative of Louisiana (Democrat).
• J. B. Stoner, Georgia political candidate (Democrat).
• Herman Talmadge, U.S. senator from Georgia (Democrat).
• A. Roswell Thompson, Louisiana political candidate (Democrat)
• Strom Thurmond, Governor and U.S. senator from South Carolina (Democrat, States' Rights Democrat, Republican)
• Ned Touchstone, Louisiana journalist and printer (Democrat)
• Joe D. Waggonner, United States Representative of Louisiana (Democrat)
• George C. Wallace (Democrat, American Independent)
• Albert W. Watson (Democrat-turned-Republican)
• John Bell Williams, Governor of Mississippi (Democrat)
• Edwin E. Willis, United States Representative of Louisiana (Democrat)
• Fielding L. Wright, Governor of Mississippi (Democrat)

Interesting list

The only ones I see from the north are Republicans
Makes it seem like a north/south issue doesn't it?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Conservatives have been consistently hostile to civil rights, regardless of party affiliation.

During the 1950s and 60s those conservatives were Southern Democrats.

Starting in the late 70s and 80s those conservatives in the Democratic Party hostile to civil rights migrated to the GOP, the consequence of the Southern Strategy and the Democratic Party as a whole championing civil rights.

Indeed, for the last 50 years it has been Democrats who have fought for the civil rights of Americans, opposed every step of the way by conservatives – conservatives hostile to the privacy rights of women, the due process rights of immigrants, the voting rights of minorities, and the equal protection rights of gay and Transgender Americans.

Today Republicans and conservatives continue their long tradition of opposing civil rights and seeking to disadvantage minorities, measures in North Carolina designed to harm transgender Americans and place an undue burden on minorities’ voting rights being the most recent examples.

Consequently, the lie that the Democratic Party is ‘racist’ is as ridiculous as it is ignorant and wrong.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0

Wrong.

It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was "wrong."

"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes

One does not apologize for a ‘myth.’

 

[Darkwind]

It's actually a silly argument. The ideologies of 19th century political parties are not really comparable to either of the modern ideology's of the two major parties.

The closest one can get to a comparison would be to liken modern conservatives to classical liberalism (An ideology closest to the founding fathers, though they would not have called it that) of small and Constitutionally limited federal govenment and strong states rights. The Democrats of that ear were also fixated on states rights, but more in line of holding or upsetting the balance of power in the US Senate. This was due to the fact that the north was trying to create more free states in the westward expansion, and thereby having more Senators on their side of the aisle. Today's liberal/progressive ideology cannot even be found in 18th or 19th century politics because of how radical it is. If anything, the two parties were closer to a JFK style belief system with the fighting being centered around power (In Washington) and economics (Slave vs Industrialism).

Of course, the third leg of the Civil war, the Abolitionists, I left out because I don't do religious discussion.

 

[g5000]

Who said, "I'll have them ******* voting Democrat for the next 200 year?" A Democrat or a Republican?

That was a hearsay claim made in a book. There is no record anywhere else he actually said that.

LBJ was a snake oil salesman. When he was around conservative Democrats, he talked like a conservative. When he was around liberal Democrats, he talked like a liberal.

 

[g5000]

LBJ Democrats gather to celebrate their heritage:

 

[gipper]

The D party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. It is historical fact, but then in the Age of Ignorance (aka Age of Liberalism) facts are things best ignored.

A portion of the Democrat party was. The conservative wing. Why is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes the D party is the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Glad we can agree on something so clearly true.

WAS....not IS. You living in the Past doesn't mean the rest of us are.

"is" or "was"...whichever you prefer...matters not two shits to me. Either way you like it still makes the D party the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Right?

 

[gipper]

The D party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. It is historical fact, but then in the Age of Ignorance (aka Age of Liberalism) facts are things best ignored.

I wear the Confederate flag because I am proud of my heritage!

Those old Confederates were slave owners and racists! Yeeeee-haaaaawwwww! That's my proud heritage!

There goes a Democrat...

 

[rightwinger]

The D party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. It is historical fact, but then in the Age of Ignorance (aka Age of Liberalism) facts are things best ignored.

A portion of the Democrat party was. The conservative wing. Why is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes the D party is the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Glad we can agree on something so clearly true.

WAS....not IS. You living in the Past doesn't mean the rest of us are.

"is" or "was"...whichever you prefer...matters not two shits to me. Either way you like it still makes the D party the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Right?

Yet it is Republicans today who celebrate the confederacy and states rights

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0

The revisionist author of that article is wrong. The Southern Strategy is not a myth. He's trying to find data to fit his confirmation bias.

Below is a 1970 article about a Nixon planner of the period laying out the strategy. You can't deny something that is right there from contemporary Republicans in black and white. Well, actually you can try to deny it, but you look like a fucking retard when you do:

Nixon's Southern Strategy: "It's All In The Charts":

"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."

It's a simple fact the racist Democrats of that era were right wing Christians. Conservatives. They hated big government, hated commies, hated taxes, loved their guns, loved Jesus, were extreme in their defense of states rights. So go ahead and try to tell us its a myth they were Christian conservatives while you are at it, and double down on your profound ignorance of American history.

Those people are called Blue dog Democrats and they still vote their party. Sorry try again.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0

Wrong.

It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was "wrong."

"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes

One does not apologize for a ‘myth.’

Ken Mehlman was 2 years old in 1968 and full of shit today.

 

[g5000]

The D party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. It is historical fact, but then in the Age of Ignorance (aka Age of Liberalism) facts are things best ignored.

A portion of the Democrat party was. The conservative wing. Why is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes the D party is the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Glad we can agree on something so clearly true.

WAS....not IS. You living in the Past doesn't mean the rest of us are.

"is" or "was"...whichever you prefer...matters not two shits to me. Either way you like it still makes the D party the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Right?

The problem is that pseudocon tards attempt to draw a connection which does not exist between the racist and bigoted Christian conservatives of the past to the godless liberals of today.

That dog don't hunt.

The racist and bigoted Christian conservatives are still around. They are Republicans now. In fact, most of them are the very pseudocon tards who are attempting to disavow their own connection to those right wing Democrats of days gone by.

And they need to leave.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's almost as if the sum total of Trump's political 'knowledge' was obtained reading RW threads on USMB.

 

[gipper]

The D party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. It is historical fact, but then in the Age of Ignorance (aka Age of Liberalism) facts are things best ignored.

A portion of the Democrat party was. The conservative wing. Why is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes the D party is the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Glad we can agree on something so clearly true.

WAS....not IS. You living in the Past doesn't mean the rest of us are.

"is" or "was"...whichever you prefer...matters not two shits to me. Either way you like it still makes the D party the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Right?

The problem is that pseudocon tards attempt to draw a connection which does not exist between the racist and bigoted Christian conservatives of the past to the godless liberals of today.

That dog don't hunt.

The racist and bigoted Christian conservatives are still around. They are Republicans now. In fact, most of them are the very pseudocon tards who are attempting to disavow their own connection to those right wing Democrats of days gone by.

And they need to leave.

It's almost as if the sum total of Trump's political 'knowledge' was obtained reading RW threads on USMB.

The Donald is a progressive like you two, but you still dislike him and prefer a known criminal instead. It is most illogical.

 

[bodecea]

A portion of the Democrat party was. The conservative wing. Why is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes the D party is the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Glad we can agree on something so clearly true.

WAS....not IS. You living in the Past doesn't mean the rest of us are.

"is" or "was"...whichever you prefer...matters not two shits to me. Either way you like it still makes the D party the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Right?

The problem is that pseudocon tards attempt to draw a connection which does not exist between the racist and bigoted Christian conservatives of the past to the godless liberals of today.

That dog don't hunt.

The racist and bigoted Christian conservatives are still around. They are Republicans now. In fact, most of them are the very pseudocon tards who are attempting to disavow their own connection to those right wing Democrats of days gone by.

And they need to leave.

It's almost as if the sum total of Trump's political 'knowledge' was obtained reading RW threads on USMB.

The Donald is a progressive like you two, but you still dislike him and prefer a known criminal instead. It is most illogical.

"A known criminal".....got those indictments/convictions for us to see?

 

[bodecea]

The D party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. It is historical fact, but then in the Age of Ignorance (aka Age of Liberalism) facts are things best ignored.

A portion of the Democrat party was. The conservative wing. Why is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes the D party is the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Glad we can agree on something so clearly true.

WAS....not IS. You living in the Past doesn't mean the rest of us are.

"is" or "was"...whichever you prefer...matters not two shits to me. Either way you like it still makes the D party the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Right?

"Is" and "was"....It is interesting that you seem to have no concept of time....the Past vs. the Present. Definitely a con-servative.....lost in the Past.

 

[bodecea]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0

Wrong.

It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was "wrong."

"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes

One does not apologize for a ‘myth.’

And still keep doing it.....

 

[BertramN]

The righties have been expanding in their false history of the two political parties, conveniently forgetting the last fifty years. It is a shining example of their denial of facts, and more evidence they live in an alternate reality. Their continued babble will prove this even more.