Trump thinks he could end the war in the Ukraine... why he's wrong

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"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
 

"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
Plus, Tump is a liar and a Putin puffer, who would sell out Ukraine in a heartbeat, and have Trump Moscow breaking ground in 4 years, with a penthouse for Vlad, whom he admires.
 

"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
Trump has already said he would cut them off; the GOP wants to cut them off. I suppose surrendering part of another country is low hanging fruit that would, in fact, end the war.
 
Where does all that Trump hate come from? Was it that devastating that he defeated your Hillary? :confused-84:
Jeez Mike, Before the election, when he said he had not ties to Russia, he was working with the Russians to try to build Trump Moscow, and the penthouse for Putey was in the mix. He has stated while in office how much he admired Putin. When the Russians invaded, he initially approve and said he couldn't blame Putin. It is unlikely he is friends with Zelensky, as that was the country he was trying to extort, on military assistance with the bastard Russians at the door and already having moved in and annexed the Crimea peninsula. Not trump hate, just the facts of history.
 

"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
Yea, the guy who didn’t start any new wars wouldn’t know what he’s talking about.

You loons are completely delusional.
 

"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
He could cut off all of Ukraine's funding and the war would be over in 48 hours.
 
Jeez Mike, Before the election, when he said he had not ties to Russia, he was working with the Russians to try to build Trump Moscow, and the penthouse for Putey was in the mix. He has stated while in office how much he admired Putin. When the Russians invaded, he initially approve and said he couldn't blame Putin. It is unlikely he is friends with Zelensky, as that was the country he was trying to extort, on military assistance with the bastard Russians at the door and already having moved in and annexed the Crimea peninsula. Not trump hate, just the facts of history.
Like the fact that Obama rebuilt the Ukraine naval base close to the Crimea peninsula to accommodate US War ships in the black sea.

That kind of fact?

Obama and Biden started this war
 

"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
You have no idea what Putin and Xi talked about. From events, it looks they were discussing the best way to bankrupt the US through never ending aid to the corrupt Zelinsky.
 

"His asserted that it would boil down to his established relationships with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"He said he would tell Mr Zelensky: “No more, you gotta make a deal,” and Mr Putin: “If you don’t make a deal, we’re gonna give them a lot. We’re gonna give more than they ever got.”"

Firstly, he doesn't understand Putin. Putin's not going to give up the war because the US might give more weapons to the Ukraine.

Secondly his "established relationship" with Putin, come in, Xi wanted the war to end, and went to Putin and Putin told him, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. Why would Putin listen to the US, which Putin hates, when he won't listen to biggest buddy Xi?
Trump, at least, would be willing to talk which would be a huge improvement over the current crop of Russia-haters in the US government.



"But the notion that we shouldn’t talk is — you know, I’ve (Ray McGovern) just been focusing on the Cuban Missile Crisis of exactly 60 years ago.

"How did that get resolved? By talks. And by a modicum of trust. Let me explain.

"Kennedy took a very, very serious position, didn’t he?

"He said, 'Look, here’s a quarantine.' He called it a quarantine; it was really a blockade, illegal. 'Here’s my invasion force in Key West, and here I’m going to threaten nuclear weapons.'

"That’s what he did. Khrushchev talked to him and said, 'Well, look, OK, we’re going to back off, but we need something.' And Kennedy said, 'OK, I promise not to invade Cuba.' And Khrushchev said, 'OK.' And on the side, they did this little deal on Turkey.

"Now, that was because — these were oral promises.

"These were negotiations — by teletype in those days.

"But why we can’t have that kind of thing now, with people saying, 'You’re giving in to the Russians,' is beyond me."
 
You're saying Trump would create a war when he's the only president since the 90s who refused to get us into another?

Not what I meant.

What I'm saying is if you appease Putin, Putin will take this as a sign he can go start another war. He's got Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus to take back, there's the Azerbaijan/Armenia conflict as well....
 

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