Trump wins again on Border wall

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

Don`t you realize that Mexicans know how to build tunnels? It will be interesting to see how he builds a wall in the middle of the 1,200 mile shifting Rio Grande river. I would swap Trump`s Deplorables for illegals in a heartbeat. Unlike Trump`s base, Mexicans aren`t afraid of hard work. That`s correct, Trump`s base gets the bulk of the free stuff in this country.
As the border wall grows, smuggling tunnels proliferate
Federal Anti-Poverty Programs Primarily Help the GOP's Base

If that's the way you feel, you should support my idea of a divided country. We divide the country equally from north to south. We should have a national vote on who gets what side. Then we divide the country between the liberals and conservatives. Anybody in between will just have to pick a side.

I can't imagine life any happier than never to put up with liberal antics ever again. We will build a huge Trump wall to keep you liberals out, and live our lives happily ever after. Hell, if we elect the east side of the country for the conservative side, my property value would more than double overnight after all the liberals were kicked out.

 

[Siete]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

Keeping the filthy ass Illegals from coming here in the first place is the most humanitarian thing he can do.

If if the Illegal shitheads didn't want to endure "humanitarian conditions" all they had to do was turn around and go back home. Of course if they did that you stupid Moon Bats wouldn't have a welfare voting base for the Democrat Party, would you?

100 years of U.S. intervention have made their countries the shitholes that they are. They`re fleeing unfettered Capitalism.

Sorry Moon Bat but you are confused. US Interventionism has not created Socialist shitholes. Socialism did that all on its own.

It's so sad, you've never left Florida and not seen other parts of the world. As is true of most White Supremacists your ignorance, bigotry and lack of curiosity have your brain locked in box where you are scared that men of color will take your job. Sad too that your false belief of your supremacy has been effectively destroyed when a man of color served our nation as POTUS, leaving you scared, insecure and filled with hate for anyone who doesn't look like yourself. Sad too that you do not embrace the strength of America for hundreds of years: e pluribus unum.

thats Flor-issippi

where welfare rules.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

I'm not opposed to using resources to develop state of the art border defense. I think the discussion gets waylaid when we limit it to the term "wall". There are better ways to promote border defense and security and I'm not sure why this administration isn't interested in engaging all Americans in this discussion. Why create a division when it certainly is something most if not all Americans could get behind.

In Trump's meeting with Piglosi and Shoemaker several months ago, Trump said it didn't have to be a wall. He also said there are places where a border would be fruitless.

Trump is not designing the wall himself. It's going to be done with the people from border patrol,the army corps of engineers, and probably several other agencies.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

Not all of them, but it will reduce illegal immigration by at least 90%.

 

[protectionist]

Don`t you realize that Mexicans know how to build tunnels? It will be interesting to see how he builds a wall in the middle of the 1,200 mile shifting Rio Grande river. I would swap Trump`s Deplorables for illegals in a heartbeat. Unlike Trump`s base, Mexicans aren`t afraid of hard work. That`s correct, Trump`s base gets the bulk of the free stuff in this country.
As the border wall grows, smuggling tunnels proliferate
Federal Anti-Poverty Programs Primarily Help the GOP's Base

Here's a perfect example of the leftist, globalist lunacy that pervades the Democratic party nowadays. Choosing foreign invaders over their own countrymen. Well sure, that's because they don't HAVE a country. To them, their country is the world.

Obama said it when he was president. He said >> "I am a citizen of the world." There you have it. No nationalism. Just pure open border globalism.

 

[Siete]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

Not all of them, but it will reduce illegal immigration by at least 90%.

pull that # out of your ass or Trumps ?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I went through this whole thread and read each post searching for comments that had substance so I could respond. I would say 99% of the comments posted are nothing more than bombastic.

sigh.....

The ruling is an example of why Congress should not make decisions out of spite when their party is in charge. It can and will be used against them when they are no longer in power.

There is certainly a crisis in how we are handling our immigration issue but I'm not sure this decision is the end of the debate or fight.

It was made by the Supreme Court. There is nobody else to appeal to. The Democrats might try to throw obstacles at the process like making environmental claims or something like that. But it will only slow them down momentarily and it will continue on.

 

[Katniss]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

I'm not opposed to using resources to develop state of the art border defense. I think the discussion gets waylaid when we limit it to the term "wall". There are better ways to promote border defense and security and I'm not sure why this administration isn't interested in engaging all Americans in this discussion. Why create a division when it certainly is something most if not all Americans could get behind.

In Trump's meeting with Piglosi and Shoemaker several months ago, Trump said it didn't have to be a wall. He also said there are places where a border would be fruitless.

Trump is not designing the wall himself. It's going to be done with the people from border patrol,the army corps of engineers, and probably several other agencies.

I'm happy to hear the President isn't designing the wall. I'm not sure I feel overly confident that the army corp of engineers will play a major role since they royally messed up the original levee designs in New Orleans. (grin).

Yes, I remember the meeting between the President and democratic leaders. I still believe that there's an opportunity to focus more on promoting border security rather than a wall. People still focus on the "wall" as the primary form of security which shuts down open discussion and possibly common ground.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

Not all of them, but it will reduce illegal immigration by at least 90%.

pull that # out of your ass or Trumps ?

By places that already have great success using a wall or other barriers.

Did anybody ever rob your house while you were away? Now picture if everybody knew you left your doors unlocked and open when you left the house. Do you think locking the doors would reduce the amount of people going into your house by 90% or more?

 

[Katniss]

I went through this whole thread and read each post searching for comments that had substance so I could respond. I would say 99% of the comments posted are nothing more than bombastic.

sigh.....

The ruling is an example of why Congress should not make decisions out of spite when their party is in charge. It can and will be used against them when they are no longer in power.

There is certainly a crisis in how we are handling our immigration issue but I'm not sure this decision is the end of the debate or fight.

It was made by the Supreme Court. There is nobody else to appeal to. The Democrats might try to throw obstacles at the process like making environmental claims or something like that. But it will only slow them down momentarily and it will continue on.

Yes, much of what you note is possible but I was also considering land owners. They may not be thrilled that the government is coming in to seize land. I imagine some will file suits.

 

[Siete]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

Not all of them, but it will reduce illegal immigration by at least 90%.

pull that # out of your ass or Trumps ?

By places that already have great success using a wall or other barriers.

Did anybody ever rob your house while you were away? Now picture if everybody knew you left your doors unlocked and open when you left the house. Do you think locking the doors would reduce the amount of people going into your house by 90% or more?

ok, sure- whatever -

but

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump finishing the border wall will end the problem of illegal immigration. Don't you liberals realize that is a good thing?

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

Fences keep prisoners in jail. A border fence will keep the Mexicans on their side.

I'm not opposed to using resources to develop state of the art border defense. I think the discussion gets waylaid when we limit it to the term "wall". There are better ways to promote border defense and security and I'm not sure why this administration isn't interested in engaging all Americans in this discussion. Why create a division when it certainly is something most if not all Americans could get behind.

In Trump's meeting with Piglosi and Shoemaker several months ago, Trump said it didn't have to be a wall. He also said there are places where a border would be fruitless.

Trump is not designing the wall himself. It's going to be done with the people from border patrol,the army corps of engineers, and probably several other agencies.

I'm happy to hear the President isn't designing the wall. I'm not sure I feel overly confident that the army corp of engineers will play a major role since they royally messed up the original levee designs in New Orleans. (grin).

Yes, I remember the meeting between the President and democratic leaders. I still believe that there's an opportunity to focus more on promoting border security rather than a wall. People still focus on the "wall" as the primary form of security which shuts down open discussion and possibly common ground.

I think Trump will be instrumental in making suggestions. After all, construction was part of his line of work, and he knows quite a bit about it. However in the past, people that have worked with Trump stated he's a very open minded guy. He's not a "know it all" like DumBama was.

Like I said, a lot of agencies will have their input in the matter. Trump will be the ultimate decider of course.

 

[Siete]

and-

As the border wall grows, smuggling tunnels proliferate

 

[lennypartiv]

There should be guard towers on the border.

 

[Katniss]

and-

As the border wall grows, smuggling tunnels proliferate

It's human nature to always find a way no matter the obstacle. If we are serious about addressing the issue of immigration then it has to be more than just border security.

 

[Siete]

There should be guard towers on the border.

oh, guards too -

so much for a wall stopping immigrants -

 

[protectionist]

a. No it won't
b. Not in all cases, the wall is the antithesis of the Statue of Liberty.
c. Trump alone created the mess on our border.

The Statue of Liberty is a relic of a bygone era, when US population was relatively low, and America needed more people to help build up the country. 133 years later, the country is massively overpopulated, and needs to get rid of people (illegal aliens, Muslims, criminals, deadbeats, etc), not bring in more.

To blame Trump for the mess on our border is the height of ignorance or deceit. Mexico has been using America as their #1 source of income for years. Mexican imperialism has been raking the US over the coals for tens of Billions$$ per year, for a long time. They most recently have been counted at $30 Billion in remittances$$$ in 2017. China and India have joined the party.

Remittance flows worldwide in 2017

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

Most recently, George Soros has been funding leftist groups like Pueblo Sin Fronteras to entice Central Americans to come to the US. They have coached them on what to say to the press, instructed them, and financed their travel. Some leaders of PSF have been arrested in Mexico.

 

[danielpalos]

upgrading infrastructure will help with this issue.

 

[Katniss]

There should be guard towers on the border.

oh, guards too -

so much for a wall stopping immigrants -

Egads - it's starting to sound like a prison but for who...........

 

[lennypartiv]

There should be guard towers on the border.

oh, guards too -

so much for a wall stopping immigrants -

Nothing wrong with having armed guards protecting our border.