What are you doing, GOP?

[Dot Com]

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves. They've spent 8 years stoking the anger that created Trump, and now they are going to find themselves in the position of probably having to support Hillary to avoid a disaster.

Oh, but if you listen to little Bobby Jindal, it's all the current Prez's fault:

He's right. The little dictator pissed people off so much they don't care what Trump says as long as they believe he'll unfuck America.

Considering his recent polling numbers just nudged a little bit over 50%, I'd say the only people he really pissed off are nutters such as yourself.(and Jindal).

No, when you get right down to it, you ODS nutbags need to take responsibility for own behavior. Or you can just keep being assholes while we keep laughing. Either way it's all good.

^ that

wingnutz like Iceweasel are leading the charge into know-nothing/hate everything oblivion

 

[Wilbur Right]

There are no jobs Americans won't do provided the money is satisfactory. If the money is not satisfactory, companies hire foreigners because they will do the job for less wages. Cut that off, and industry has no choice but to increase pay to attract American workers.

Wait a cotton picking minute.

I know you personally hate the idea of the government forcing an increase in MW. And you always claim that people get paid what they are worth to the employer.

So how is it that you will force an employer to pay increased wages to an American that has been sitting on their ass living off you the taxpayer?

And why will employers be happy that you ran off the cheap, hard-working illegal and replaced them with more expensive, less hard working citizen labor?

Have you really thought this through?

 

[Iceweasel]

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves. They've spent 8 years stoking the anger that created Trump, and now they are going to find themselves in the position of probably having to support Hillary to avoid a disaster.

Oh, but if you listen to little Bobby Jindal, it's all the current Prez's fault:

He's right. The little dictator pissed people off so much they don't care what Trump says as long as they believe he'll unfuck America.

Considering his recent polling numbers just nudged a little bit over 50%, I'd say the only people he really pissed off are nutters such as yourself.(and Jindal).

No, when you get right down to it, you ODS nutbags need to take responsibility for own behavior. Or you can just keep being assholes while we keep laughing. Either way it's all good.

^ that

wingnutz like Iceweasel are leading the charge into know-nothing/hate everything oblivion

Lookie here ....the MIRROR speaks.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There are no jobs Americans won't do provided the money is satisfactory. If the money is not satisfactory, companies hire foreigners because they will do the job for less wages. Cut that off, and industry has no choice but to increase pay to attract American workers.

Wait a cotton picking minute.

I know you personally hate the idea of the government forcing an increase in MW. And you always claim that people get paid what they are worth to the employer.

So how is it that you will force an employer to pay increased wages to an American that has been sitting on their ass living off you the taxpayer?

And why will employers be happy that you ran off the cheap, hard-working illegal and replaced them with more expensive, less hard working citizen labor?

Have you really thought this through?

The supply and demand system is a near perfect system. When supply is low and demand is high, prices go up. When demand is low and supply is high, prices go down.

It's a great system until you throw a monkey wrench into it like labor unions or illegals. As long as you keep the supply high, then wages will never increase which is what we've been seeing the last eight years.

Government should not force an increased minimum wage. What government should be doing is restricting foreigners from coming here and taking our jobs. That way the market can balance itself out in it's own natural way.

 

[OKTexas]

Wow.... And all this time I was totally expecting liberal democrat socialists to support the GOP nominee and party! No really... I thought you'd all be up in this thread cheering for Cruz or Trump... or maybe even praising Romney and the Establishment for their brilliant plan! Because you all come across as such upstanding and intelligent minds when it comes to politics and the pulse of America.

I guess all us "Republicans" should just go find an oven and stick our heads in it?

They know their participation numbers are way down while republican numbers are way up, pair that up with the inevitable hildabitch indictment and all they can do is try to keep a stiff upper lip, cause most of them aren't feel'n the Bern.

ne'eh... it has more to do with whichever candidate makes the (D) nomination, we will be satisfied with. what you mistake for ambivalence , is actually us just sitting back & watching the (R)s eating their own. just look at 'your' debates... you can't make this shit up even if you tried. sarah palin couldn't do what trump & cruz & rubio are doing for the (D)s come election day.

With a large majority of the country not liking the direction the country is going, I think you're delusional. Hell, without your dear leader you can't even get a decent turn out for the primaries. That's a trend that will carry through the general.

ummm..... mid-terms have traditionally been low turn-out shit stain OKTexas

Remember the lowest turn-out since WWII was when Repubs won in '14

You can't make this stuff up.

What has Republicorp done since their *cough* victory? ZERO

Did I miss something, I didn't know your dear leader ran for anything during the mid-terms. I'm talking about your low presidential primary turn outs, conversely the republicans have hit records.

As for your second point, I agree to a point, though they have accomplished a few minor victories, they've failed on some of the larger items. Why do you think the current shake up is happening.

Conservative “Wins” in the FY16 Omnibus Bill

http://www.culberson.house.gov/uploadedfiles/list_of_fy16_omnibus_wins_final.pdf

 

[JoeB131]

Uh..guy.. that's wrong. We have an illegal problem because the job needs to be done and people are sitting on their asses at home on taxpayer's expense instead of working in the areas demanding labor force.

I agree, all those white people collecting Social Security and Unemployment on the taxpayer's dime should be out there cleaning toilets. Oh, wait, no you mean those COLORED people getting welfare,don't you?

Protecting the sovereignty of the country is not racism. Introduce a "guest worker" program to enable people from foreign countries to work here without breaking the law. Take people off from lifetime welfare. It is easy too hurls "racism, nazism, fascism" when nothing substantial is offered. Those terms are so over used that they do not faze anybody anymore.

Those terms are used because they apply to what Trump is doing. Frankly, my grandparents told me stories of how Hitler came to power in the "Old Country". Just substitute "Illegal" for "Jew", and you just got another asshole with weird hair doing the same shit.

 

[JoeB131]

We have an illegal problem because DumBama is letting them come through and stay here.

Obama has deported more illegals than Bush did. In fact, the number of illegals has declined. What Obama refuses to do is take people brought here as children and send them back to countries where they don't even speak the language.

There are no jobs Americans won't do provided the money is satisfactory.

Well, that's the thing. What is a fair wage for cleaning toilets?

If the money is not satisfactory, companies hire foreigners because they will do the job for less wages. Cut that off, and industry has no choice but to increase pay to attract American workers.

Again, they always have the option of moving their factories to where the cheap labor is.

 

[Toro]

LOL... sarah couldn't even deliver alaska for trump. btw, "he'd LOVE to have her in his administration"

Palin also endorsed him before Iowa, and Trump barely came in second.

Apparently, Sarah doesn't have much pull anymore.

 

[Dot Com]

We have an illegal problem because DumBama is letting them come through and stay here.

Obama has deported more illegals than Bush did. In fact, the number of illegals has declined. What Obama refuses to do is take people brought here as children and send them back to countries where they don't even speak the language.

There are no jobs Americans won't do provided the money is satisfactory.

Well, that's the thing. What is a fair wage for cleaning toilets?

If the money is not satisfactory, companies hire foreigners because they will do the job for less wages. Cut that off, and industry has no choice but to increase pay to attract American workers.

Again, they always have the option of moving their factories to where the cheap labor is.

44 has also killed more terrorist leaders than his Repub predecessor.

 

[jillian]

trump came to prominence because people with less than a high school education, who feel marginalized and economically insecure liked the hate message

If you could actually back that up with recent statistics I'd be pretty interested in those (because, let's be honest, it would be a good laugh).

On the other hand, those recent statistics don't exist. You literally just made a judgement formed solely upon your biased view of his supporters.

"That is why you fail" - Yoda.

I don't have to "back that up" in any way that satisfies you. It is clear to everyone watching that he has tapped into the ugly bottom of the right. There is a reason whore supremacists love him. There is a reason trump re-tweets a new-nazi who has as his avatar a swastika. There is a reason that the southern strategy has manifested in this fashion.

And there is a reason that his base "base" loves it when he tells them to beat up black protesters.

And if that isn't sufficient for you, frankly you're the problem and you're either one of them or you're in denial.

Let's all be honest here, if we assume that your depiction of Trump's followers is correct (not saying it is, but let us assume), and we take into consideration that you flagrantly mis-characterize them without an ounce of actual evidence to support yourself while resorting to name calling and general extremist "us vs. them" mentality...

You are trying to tell us that you ARE a Trump supporter (or at least your definition of one)

Welcome to the party!

Nothing is mischaracterized.

And no I'm not a trumpeter.

I don't even know where you got that or you're just pulling things out of the air.

 

[defcon4]

I agree, all those white people collecting Social Security and Unemployment on the taxpayer's dime should be out there cleaning toilets. Oh, wait, no you mean those COLORED people getting welfare,don't you?

Uh..guy... you are obsessed with guys asses, aren't you? Ass-u-m-ing again. There are a lot of white trash on the public dole also, I saw them the last elections in free Obama T-shirts lining up at the voting place. They stunk too with greasy hair, fat as fuck voting democrat for the welfare check. All in all everybody should be given a helping hand but then get the fuck out to the fields or wherever and start supporting their own fat fucking asses by working.

 

[playtime]

Wow.... And all this time I was totally expecting liberal democrat socialists to support the GOP nominee and party! No really... I thought you'd all be up in this thread cheering for Cruz or Trump... or maybe even praising Romney and the Establishment for their brilliant plan! Because you all come across as such upstanding and intelligent minds when it comes to politics and the pulse of America.

I guess all us "Republicans" should just go find an oven and stick our heads in it?

They know their participation numbers are way down while republican numbers are way up, pair that up with the inevitable hildabitch indictment and all they can do is try to keep a stiff upper lip, cause most of them aren't feel'n the Bern.

ne'eh... it has more to do with whichever candidate makes the (D) nomination, we will be satisfied with. what you mistake for ambivalence , is actually us just sitting back & watching the (R)s eating their own. just look at 'your' debates... you can't make this shit up even if you tried. sarah palin couldn't do what trump & cruz & rubio are doing for the (D)s come election day.

With a large majority of the country not liking the direction the country is going, I think you're delusional. Hell, without your dear leader you can't even get a decent turn out for the primaries. That's a trend that will carry through the general.

LOL... "dear leader".....

<ahem>

what happened in the general election in 2008? Obama won in a landslide.


what happened in 2012? Obama won again by even larger numbers.

 

[playtime]

ya, only the poorly educated American people want the country to move more in this direction....

 

[Jolteon]

I respect all believes. My opinion however is that Bernie sanders is the best candidate. I even wrote a song about it! Check it out!

 

[eagle1462010]

I respect all believes. My opinion however is that Bernie sanders is the best candidate. I even wrote a song about it! Check it out!

 

[Wilbur Right]

The supply and demand system is a near perfect system. When supply is low and demand is high, prices go up. When demand is low and supply is high, prices go down.7

It's a great system until you throw a monkey wrench into it like labor unions or illegals. As long as you keep the supply high, then wages will never increase which is what we've been seeing the
last eight years.

Noticed that you can't answer why the employers of illegals (and evidently there are a lot of them) will be happy that their hard working, cheap labor is gone. To be replaced by higher cost, not as hard working employees.

First, you don't know that the American worker is going to step up and do the work the illegals are doing. As you say, unemployment is much higher than reported, yet American workers are not lining up for the jobs illegals are doing.

When you have an excess supply of labor, which you say we have looking at the accurate UE rate, you have to work for what y out can get. Especially low skill jobs.

And you say employers shouldn't pay based on anything but what the job is worth.
So how did the pay rate increase for a low skill, inexperienced worker?

And if you cut off the cheap labor here, what is to keep the company from moving to where the cheap labor is?

Labor costs to a company are greater than tax costs. Your kind says all the time companies will leave over taxes. But really they leave here for lower labor costs.

And now you want to increase their labor costs more for less productive workers. They will be gone dude.

Y o u brilliant eh?
,

 

[Faun]

Okay... So the Jeb candidacy idea tanked before it ever got started... Christie tanked... Rubio and Kasich are tanking... the Establishment is fresh out of Goobs to run against one Donald J. Trump and the proverbial fat lady is warming up her vocal chords... what do they do? Trot out MITTENS!

So now, apparently... Mitt Romney is going to jump in this thing, not to WIN the nomination, but just to siphon enough delegates off to keep Trump from winning on the first ballot and causing a brokered convention... Something Reince Priebus intimated several weeks ago, would not happen.

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

How is Romney going to siphon votes when he's not running?

 

[jillian]

Uh...guy. You are just slinging shit as usual without any solid foundation. You are yet to prove racism on Trump's side. You promote lawlessness on the illegal border entry side and support terrorists on the jihadist side.

Not at all. I just don't whine about the results when you didn't address the problems.

We have an "Illegal" problem because there are a lot of jobs most of us don't want to do. We have a Jihadist problem because we keep letting the Zionists dictate our foreign policy, which shouldn't be concerned with who a Magic Sky Pixie gave a pile of sand to.

Sadly, trump is using your racism and fear to play you. I don't even think the guy actually wants to be president. He isn't doing the things guys who are serious about being president do.

You do not have a jihadi problem because of "zip kats". You have a jihadi problem because that was always there. The destabilization of the Middle East by the unnecessary ouster of Saddam Hussain simply sped up the process and let the genii out of the bottle.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The supply and demand system is a near perfect system. When supply is low and demand is high, prices go up. When demand is low and supply is high, prices go down.7

It's a great system until you throw a monkey wrench into it like labor unions or illegals. As long as you keep the supply high, then wages will never increase which is what we've been seeing the
last eight years.

Noticed that you can't answer why the employers of illegals (and evidently there are a lot of them) will be happy that their hard working, cheap labor is gone. To be replaced by higher cost, not as hard working employees.

First, you don't know that the American worker is going to step up and do the work the illegals are doing. As you say, unemployment is much higher than reported, yet American workers are not lining up for the jobs illegals are doing.

When you have an excess supply of labor, which you say we have looking at the accurate UE rate, you have to work for what y out can get. Especially low skill jobs.

And you say employers shouldn't pay based on anything but what the job is worth.
So how did the pay rate increase for a low skill, inexperienced worker?

And if you cut off the cheap labor here, what is to keep the company from moving to where the cheap labor is?

Labor costs to a company are greater than tax costs. Your kind says all the time companies will leave over taxes. But really they leave here for lower labor costs.

And now you want to increase their labor costs more for less productive workers. They will be gone dude.

Y o u brilliant eh?
,

One of the problems is that our welfare system pays people equal or greater to pay of low wage jobs so they won't do the work. They would rather sit home talking on their Obama phone and eating steak off their SNAP's cards.

Companies are not going to pack their bags and leave the country because they have to pay American workers three or four dollars more per hour than they used to pay. Companies leave for a variety of reasons and labor costs are just part of it. Now if they have to put up with unions where they can leave the country and pay 3/4 less than they are paying Americans, that makes it more inviting to leave.

But Americans will do any job provided it does pay enough. How much do you think our hero's in the military are making? Did you ever see those linemen in winter trying to reconnect electric service in the middle of the night in 0 degree weather and the wind blowing at 25 mph? Ever see those steel workers walking on steel beams 20 stories high with nothing underneath those beams?

By getting rid of foreign workers legal and illegal, it drains the supply of workers. No, businesses would not be happy with that because it will likely increase their labor costs, but it's up to them how they handle that situation. They may have to increase the price of their product or service, they may start paying higher earning employees a little bit less, they may ask for higher employee contributions towards their healthcare plan or put a limit on vacation time for those who have been with the company a long time. There are a number of ways to do it.

If we could just convince more people to vote Republican and they cut down those welfare programs to the point people have to work no matter what the pay, that would also be a solution to the employers problems as well.

 

[OKTexas]

Wow.... And all this time I was totally expecting liberal democrat socialists to support the GOP nominee and party! No really... I thought you'd all be up in this thread cheering for Cruz or Trump... or maybe even praising Romney and the Establishment for their brilliant plan! Because you all come across as such upstanding and intelligent minds when it comes to politics and the pulse of America.

I guess all us "Republicans" should just go find an oven and stick our heads in it?

They know their participation numbers are way down while republican numbers are way up, pair that up with the inevitable hildabitch indictment and all they can do is try to keep a stiff upper lip, cause most of them aren't feel'n the Bern.

ne'eh... it has more to do with whichever candidate makes the (D) nomination, we will be satisfied with. what you mistake for ambivalence , is actually us just sitting back & watching the (R)s eating their own. just look at 'your' debates... you can't make this shit up even if you tried. sarah palin couldn't do what trump & cruz & rubio are doing for the (D)s come election day.

With a large majority of the country not liking the direction the country is going, I think you're delusional. Hell, without your dear leader you can't even get a decent turn out for the primaries. That's a trend that will carry through the general.

LOL... "dear leader".....

<ahem>

what happened in the general election in 2008? Obama won in a landslide.


what happened in 2012? Obama won again by even larger numbers.

They also had record turn out in the primaries, not so much this year, it's the republican that are breaking records.