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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.
Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?
In the event of this hypothetical scenario, you wouldn't stand a chance against tanks, jets, nuclear weapons, and the greatest military in the world.
You just like to play with guns.
"Pew pew, I'm gonna take down the government."
What good will guns do when a tyrannical government has the most powerful military in the history of mankind?What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
What good will guns do when a tyrannical government has the most powerful military in the history of mankind?What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
What good will guns do when a tyrannical government has the most powerful military in the history of mankind?What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
Alright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longest230 Years is not that long of a time230 years and we have never needed guns to regulate government
Not even close
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One of the longest continuous forms of government on earth
Our Constitution is copied around the world
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Are the rednecks going to get China to back them?"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.
Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?
In the event of this hypothetical scenario, you wouldn't stand a chance against tanks, jets, nuclear weapons, and the greatest military in the world.
You just like to play with guns.
"Pew pew, I'm gonna take down the government."
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Alright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longest230 Years is not that long of a time
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
One of the longest continuous forms of government on earth
Our Constitution is copied around the world
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Are the rednecks going to get China to back them?"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.
Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?
In the event of this hypothetical scenario, you wouldn't stand a chance against tanks, jets, nuclear weapons, and the greatest military in the world.
You just like to play with guns.
"Pew pew, I'm gonna take down the government."
View attachment 296909
What good will guns do when a tyrannical government has the most powerful military in the history of mankind?What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
Hmmmm....ask the Afghanis, the Vietnamese......... and those countries were backward crap holes.....now imagine millions of armed Americans with advanced technology fighting for their homes and families, you dope......
Alright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longest230 Years is not that long of a time
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
One of the longest continuous forms of government on earth
Our Constitution is copied around the world
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
2A, of course you think that. You are the one who always says MORE GUNS !! every time there is another mass shooting.Alright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longestOne of the longest continuous forms of government on earth
Our Constitution is copied around the world
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
No, the solution is to take off all the caps......money is speech, cause you can't get your message out without it.......the only reason more normal people don't run for office is they can't get money. Allow people to bank roll them, with knowledge of who is doing it, and normal people would have a shot at gaining office more often.
Any cap helps the incumbents who are already in office...which is why they all want caps and public financing...once they are in, they have all the advantages.
I know it is a START. Know what that means? a STARTAlright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longestOne of the longest continuous forms of government on earth
Our Constitution is copied around the world
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Hardly.
How is it do you think that a person who had a net worth of less than a million dollars when they got elected to Congress can be a multi-millionaire a couple terms later when their salary is 175K a year?
Don't assume that6 the military would be in lockstep with a government that has become the enemy of the peopleWhat good will guns do when a tyrannical government has the most powerful military in the history of mankind?What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
Alright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longestOne of the longest continuous forms of government on earth
Our Constitution is copied around the world
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Hardly.
How is it do you think that a person who had a net worth of less than a million dollars when they got elected to Congress can be a multi-millionaire a couple terms later when their salary is 175K a year?
2A, of course you think that. You are the one who always says MORE GUNS !! every time there is another mass shooting.Alright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longest
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
No, the solution is to take off all the caps......money is speech, cause you can't get your message out without it.......the only reason more normal people don't run for office is they can't get money. Allow people to bank roll them, with knowledge of who is doing it, and normal people would have a shot at gaining office more often.
Any cap helps the incumbents who are already in office...which is why they all want caps and public financing...once they are in, they have all the advantages.
Allowing more money to politicians running for office will eliminate influence peddling. RRRRRiiiiiiigggghhhhtttttt.......
I know it is a START. Know what that means? a STARTAlright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longest
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Hardly.
How is it do you think that a person who had a net worth of less than a million dollars when they got elected to Congress can be a multi-millionaire a couple terms later when their salary is 175K a year?
Bernie has to hate himself or else he's a hypocriteAlright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.Hardly the longest
You need to study history and the factors that cause the decline of civilizations
Our government is corrupt and owned by the few not the many
You like most are too naive to see that
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Hardly.
How is it do you think that a person who had a net worth of less than a million dollars when they got elected to Congress can be a multi-millionaire a couple terms later when their salary is 175K a year?
Yes....millionaire socialist, Bernie Sanders should give a class on this.....
Bernie has to hate himself or else he's a hypocriteAlright. That would be a start. Most of the influence peddling is done in conjunction with campaign funding, isn't it?Nope I'm not paying for for anyone to run for officeIt would be so simple to get a good start--with campaigns funded solely by taxes, no PACS, no fund raising by parties. Every candidate gets an equal amount of $ and advertising credit. It wouldn't stop all corruption, but getting the money out of politics would be a huge first step.
Put a hard cap on money that can be collected and spent by wannabe politicians and stop all the billions of dollars of soft money that the DNC and RNC collect
Remove the tax deduction for political parties and organizations
But don't assume that the corruption begins and ends at the campaign level.
Corruption runs deep
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Hardly.
How is it do you think that a person who had a net worth of less than a million dollars when they got elected to Congress can be a multi-millionaire a couple terms later when their salary is 175K a year?
Yes....millionaire socialist, Bernie Sanders should give a class on this.....
You left one off.What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
We have managed not to have a tyrannical government because we have the right to vote and a free press. Do you believe we are in danger of losing those things?
There would be no fight with our military.What good will guns do when a tyrannical government has the most powerful military in the history of mankind?What exactly would votes change in a tyrannical government if a tyrannical government were to actually allow a vote? Do you think they would "count" enough votes against themselves and then surrender? Do you even understand what a tyrannical government is? Your posts throughout this thread suggest that you are completely ignorant of what a tyrannical government even is.If you want to take back government, no amount of guns will help you
Your vote will
Hmmmm....ask the Afghanis, the Vietnamese......... and those countries were backward crap holes.....now imagine millions of armed Americans with advanced technology fighting for their homes and families, you dope......
Big difference is those wars were.......”over there”
Military powers fighting in distant lands have a shorter tolerance for casualties.
Fight on our own turf and it is a different ballgame
