"What is the Democrats' message?"

[Mac1958]

what to YOU think the GOP should be doing?

I laid it out in Post 201, and was told clearly that it's not going to happen. So, okay, there's my answer.
.

Yes. You want us to destroy some of our most successful spokesmen for racism, to show that we are not racist, and to reach out to those who believe we are racist.


Because making the conversation about how racist we are, will convince them that we are not racist.


Can you see how I find that, not good?

Well, honesty would be a good start, especially with people who don't trust you.

Again, as I keep saying, if you don't feel you need to reach out, great. That's your choice.
.

Throwing people to the mob is not being honest.


Your path would weaken us while supporting the lie.

He is a delusional blowhard that doesn't get that EVERYONE is laughing at him.

Republicans would do much better to eliminate the sense of moral superiority that Democrats have instilled in non-whites by pointing out the racist shit that Democrats have done and that they personally supported.

There ya go! That'll do it!
.

 

[edward37]

they don't have to take corrupt tactics at all. but when they have the ability to do so, they can try to get some shit done vs. bickering among themselves and getting nothing done.

then again maybe that is a democratic tactic.

Watch how pleased America is with republicans in the next election Drumph has no coat tails ,,,Now you might even lose the senate

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

they don't have to take corrupt tactics at all. but when they have the ability to do so, they can try to get some shit done vs. bickering among themselves and getting nothing done.

then again maybe that is a democratic tactic.

Watch how pleased America is with republicans in the next election Drumph has no coat tails ,,,Now you might even lose the senate

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

 

[OldLady]

Watch how pleased America is with republicans in the next election Drumph has no coat tails ,,,Now you might even lose the senate

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

 

[edward37]

Watch how pleased America is with republicans in the next election Drumph has no coat tails ,,,Now you might even lose the senate

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

 

[ptbw forever]

I laid it out in Post 201, and was told clearly that it's not going to happen. So, okay, there's my answer.
.

Yes. You want us to destroy some of our most successful spokesmen for racism, to show that we are not racist, and to reach out to those who believe we are racist.


Because making the conversation about how racist we are, will convince them that we are not racist.


Can you see how I find that, not good?

Well, honesty would be a good start, especially with people who don't trust you.

Again, as I keep saying, if you don't feel you need to reach out, great. That's your choice.
.

Throwing people to the mob is not being honest.


Your path would weaken us while supporting the lie.

He is a delusional blowhard that doesn't get that EVERYONE is laughing at him.

Republicans would do much better to eliminate the sense of moral superiority that Democrats have instilled in non-whites by pointing out the racist shit that Democrats have done and that they personally supported.

There ya go! That'll do it!
.

It most certainly is the best option Republicans have(aside from going back to their roots with Lincoln and deciding to end the multiracial disaster here and now).

Playing the old "don't make the black kids angry" game only sends the message that Republicans are pathetic pansies who will only bend over more as non-whites use the vehicle of the Democratic party to get more privileges.

 

[edward37]

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

yes it is but still my cut and paste said down as did the republican leader trump

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

The numbers are the numbers ya fool. While I mock bsnbc and CNN I have never outright said they should be discounted. A wise person takes info from a range of places before drawing their own conclusions.

Now back to your STUPID position. The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

So what is the problem exactly?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

yes it is but still my cut and paste said down as did the republican leader trump

You childs fever drops below 102. It's still high but it did drop. Guess you can just forget about it since it dropped right?

Idiot

 

[OldLady]

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

yes it is but still my cut and paste said down as did the republican leader trump

That's why we all love stats--so many ways to spin the numbers, eh?
We got a problem on the southern border. I don't agree with how Trump and the Alt Right are going about this in the least, but it's a problem, just the same.

 

[edward37]

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

The numbers are the numbers ya fool. While I mock bsnbc and CNN I have never outright said they should be discounted. A wise person takes info from a range of places before drawing their own conclusions.

Now back to your STUPID position. The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

So what is the problem exactly?

No problem at all
Expect illegal immigration across the Mexican border to double next ...
thehill.com/.../immigration/357381-expect-illegal-immigration-across-the-mexican-bo...
Oct 27, 2017 - In a typical year, border crossings peak in the spring to early summer, as migrants crossfor outdoors work in construction and agriculture. Crossings in the second half ... In other words, much of the decline in 2017 can be explained by crossers advancing their border attempts into 2016. Even so, Trump can ...

 

[edward37]

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

yes it is but still my cut and paste said down as did the republican leader trump

You childs fever drops below 102. It's still high but it did drop. Guess you can just forget about it since it dropped right?

Idiot

great simile gramps,,,,,of course you know 102 in an adult is a lot worse

 

[edward37]

I keep asking the same question and all I get is deflection and denial. So, I think I have my answer.

which is?

"Nothing"

what to YOU think the GOP should be doing?

I laid it out in Post 201, and was told clearly that it's not going to happen. So, okay, there's my answer.
.

If Hillary had won, you might have a point, but she lost, the GOP took both houses of congress and a majority of governors and state houses.

the American voters are not as gullible to the dem bullshit as you assume that they are.

As our markets sink
POLITICS
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[Hutch Starskey]

Midterms ALWAYS see a swing to the opposition. It is the norm. Matters not who is in the oval office.

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

They were apprehended.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

The numbers are the numbers ya fool. While I mock bsnbc and CNN I have never outright said they should be discounted. A wise person takes info from a range of places before drawing their own conclusions.

Now back to your STUPID position. The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

So what is the problem exactly?

No problem at all
Expect illegal immigration across the Mexican border to double next ...
thehill.com/.../immigration/357381-expect-illegal-immigration-across-the-mexican-bo...
Oct 27, 2017 - In a typical year, border crossings peak in the spring to early summer, as migrants crossfor outdoors work in construction and agriculture. Crossings in the second half ... In other words, much of the decline in 2017 can be explained by crossers advancing their border attempts into 2016. Even so, Trump can ...

You are such a partisan douchbag.

You just agreed with and thanked Old ladys post which said we do in fact have a problem.

Then in the very next post to me you say we don't.

We can not simply absorb those kinds of numbers of illegals. We are already operating in deficits and struggle to care for our own poor class without adding tens of thousands of them to our already struggling safety nets.

 

[edward37]

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

The numbers are the numbers ya fool. While I mock bsnbc and CNN I have never outright said they should be discounted. A wise person takes info from a range of places before drawing their own conclusions.

Now back to your STUPID position. The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

So what is the problem exactly?

No problem at all
Expect illegal immigration across the Mexican border to double next ...
thehill.com/.../immigration/357381-expect-illegal-immigration-across-the-mexican-bo...
Oct 27, 2017 - In a typical year, border crossings peak in the spring to early summer, as migrants crossfor outdoors work in construction and agriculture. Crossings in the second half ... In other words, much of the decline in 2017 can be explained by crossers advancing their border attempts into 2016. Even so, Trump can ...

You are such a partisan douchbag.

You just agreed with and thanked Old ladys post which said we do in fact have a problem.

Then in the very next post to me you say we don't.

We can not simply absorbed those kinds of numbers of illegals. We are already operating in deficits and struggle to care for our own poor class without adding tens of thousands of them to our already struggling safety nets.

There is a problem Only the blind can't see it It's how the moron wants to deal with it that's the problem

 

[Hutch Starskey]

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

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Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

The numbers are the numbers ya fool. While I mock bsnbc and CNN I have never outright said they should be discounted. A wise person takes info from a range of places before drawing their own conclusions.

Now back to your STUPID position. The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

So what is the problem exactly?

The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

Those were attempted crossings. That number is the number that were apprehended.

Obviously not a problem.

 

[edward37]

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

And that is an NBC article

OH?? now you believe NBC It isn't false news anymore ???? lol

The numbers are the numbers ya fool. While I mock bsnbc and CNN I have never outright said they should be discounted. A wise person takes info from a range of places before drawing their own conclusions.

Now back to your STUPID position. The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

So what is the problem exactly?

The jump in illegal crossing was stark & huge by comparison. The president is supposed to defend our borders and enforce the law.

Those were attempted crossings. That number is the number that were apprehended.

Obviously not a problem.

And that was BEFORE drumph called for National Guard

 

[OldLady]

true But how great the swings?? These might be enormous.......and funny how trump is sending NG to guard us just before mid terms ...with those entering at many years low

The numbers illegally crossing has more than doubled since last year.
And lol at "right before". The election is SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics.

Is trump lying again Gramps?
Is illegal immigration the lowest in 17 years, as Trump said? | PolitiFact
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../apr/.../illegal-immigration-lowest-17-years-trump-said/
Claim: Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: True

Feedback
Illegal Border Crossings Are Down, But Trump Still Exaggerates the ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/.../trump-border-claim-factcheck.html
Oct 12, 2017 - Since taking office, President Trump has frequently claimed to have achieved large declines in illegal immigration across the Southwest border with Mexico, and the drop appear to grow with each mention. Mr. Trump has a point: Border crossings have gone down more during his administration. Yet he ...

there is good news
We have no problem on either border. The border crisis is steaming pile of bullshit that Trump supporters willingly eat in healthy portions. But we are talking about Trump supporters so that goes without saying.

Border crossings are at all time record lows. The reason the orange ass clown is pulling this stunt, and have no illusions in that pea little brain, it is a stunt, is because he lost his wall permanently. He lost funding for it in the last budget, and when Democrats control the House after November, there will never be another dime for any wall, so this is his attempt at keeping republicans engaged.

Everything's relative, I suppose, but 50,000 in a month is a lot of folks. Don't you think?

• The number of "illegal" crossing attempts at the U.S. Southwest border triple in March compared with a year ago, the government says.
• The number of crossing attempts last month grow 37 percent from February, setting a month-to-month record going back to 2011.
• Overall, government data show there were a total of 50,308 people last month that were apprehended or deemed as "inadmissible" at the border.
• The largest number of apprehensions is from the Rio Grande sector in Texas, according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago

They were apprehended.

Yes, that's the good part. And to make sure it stays that way, if the National Guard needs to go down to do KP and change the sheets in the detention center, let 'em go. The Border Patrol seems to feel stretched thin. Don't blame them, with numbers like that.

I do believe that this is probably theatrics on Trump's part, to keep his base in a lather over the brown invasion--Ladies hold onto your pussies. The rapists are on the way. That's all garbage--but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that indeed it may be fewer folks than before, but a LOT of people are attempting to enter the country illegally. Not all of them got caught, you know.

 

[Mac1958]

In a typical year, border crossings peak in the spring to early summer, as migrants crossfor outdoors work in construction and agriculture

So they know that an American company will break the law and hire them.

So I guess that's something that could be seriously addressed. Instead of, say, building a wall.
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