What's Happening... We are all becoming angry... blacks and whites

[Darkwind]

And where will it lead? Clinton says that whites need to listen...What about blacks?

Our problem is "ignorance."

Ignorance of history, Ignorance of the law, Ignorance of responsibility and Ignorance of accepting all people.

Have you ever watched these interviews of people who seemingly have had no education? They don't have a clue of history, current events or the challenge of accepting those who are different from ourselves.

Where there is ignorance, a breeding ground of hate and anger ensues. That is where we are.

One group will act in a certain manner and the opposite group; will retaliate in kind out of anger.

(Example: A police officer shoots a black. The media highlights the altercation. Blacks blame the police without knowledge of the entire scenario. Whites react to the actions of blacks for protesting. As each group incorrectly assume their action is appropriate, neither is. Anger piles on anger and people don't think logically any longer.)

If it is a winner is the last man standing, we are in for a long unsolvable war that will take more innocent lives. The rhetoric that encourages this resentment has to be stopped.

What do you think it is like to be a black man living in an inner city neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experiences?

What do you thin it is like to be a white man living in a suburban neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experience?

I am a white woman living in the suburbs, but I work all day and a lot of nights in the inner city.

So then tell Me.

The everyday lives of the people in the suburbs consists of what? What do they do to get through their daily lives? Who do they think about? What motivates them? Are they concerned about their children? Are they doing their best to raise them in values they hold, and their parents hold? Do they go to work every day? How many of them will be found walking down the street, alone, at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4a.m.? How many of them spend their entire weekends seeking to hang out with friends instead of family?

I could go on and on with a list of daily activities that the majority of families in America suburbia partake which never bring them into contact with the police, or place them in suspicious situations.

This is normal America. They go to work, they go home and spend time with their families. They make time for a small handful of friends on the weekend (or they just do things around the house with family). Some will take a few hours a week to improve their education. Most of them will be concerned about the quality of the local schools, where they will get the money for advanced education for their children, retirement and maybe government overreach.

This is not to say that there are not misfits and a bad element in suburbia. There certainly are those who will also run afoul of the law. The point is, the culture of suburbia is one of trying to improve themselves, their community, and their family.

I know for some, they think this is some kind of fantasy world, yet it happens to Americans by the 10's of millions each and every day.

 

[candycorn]

It all started when someone first brought up the notion that respect has to be earned. I’ve heard that bullshit all my life and it’s literally one of the most grotesque stances one can have. The populace was much more civil when you started with giving respect to all and letting them earn your dis-respect (if they did).

Imagine how much brighter the outlook would be if our politics were based on that. Lee Atwater was the first to take the act national and it has stuck because it is entertaining to call people names, insinuate that someone is personally lacking in some area, discredit your opponents by talking about their fathers or putting some juvenile adjective before their name.

 

[Care4all]

And where will it lead? Clinton says that whites need to listen...What about blacks?

Our problem is "ignorance."

Ignorance of history, Ignorance of the law, Ignorance of responsibility and Ignorance of accepting all people.

Have you ever watched these interviews of people who seemingly have had no education? They don't have a clue of history, current events or the challenge of accepting those who are different from ourselves.

Where there is ignorance, a breeding ground of hate and anger ensues. That is where we are.

One group will act in a certain manner and the opposite group; will retaliate in kind out of anger.

(Example: A police officer shoots a black. The media highlights the altercation. Blacks blame the police without knowledge of the entire scenario. Whites react to the actions of blacks for protesting. As each group incorrectly assume their action is appropriate, neither is. Anger piles on anger and people don't think logically any longer.)

If it is a winner is the last man standing, we are in for a long unsolvable war that will take more innocent lives. The rhetoric that encourages this resentment has to be stopped.

The problem is ANGER itself...


Ephesians 4:26-31

26 “In your anger do not sin” : Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold.

29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.



James 1:19-20

19 My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry,
20 because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires.


Proverbs 29:11

11 Fools give full vent to their rage, but the wise bring calm in the end.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And where will it lead? Clinton says that whites need to listen...What about blacks?

Our problem is "ignorance."

Ignorance of history, Ignorance of the law, Ignorance of responsibility and Ignorance of accepting all people.

Have you ever watched these interviews of people who seemingly have had no education? They don't have a clue of history, current events or the challenge of accepting those who are different from ourselves.

Where there is ignorance, a breeding ground of hate and anger ensues. That is where we are.

One group will act in a certain manner and the opposite group; will retaliate in kind out of anger.

(Example: A police officer shoots a black. The media highlights the altercation. Blacks blame the police without knowledge of the entire scenario. Whites react to the actions of blacks for protesting. As each group incorrectly assume their action is appropriate, neither is. Anger piles on anger and people don't think logically any longer.)

If it is a winner is the last man standing, we are in for a long unsolvable war that will take more innocent lives. The rhetoric that encourages this resentment has to be stopped.

What do you think it is like to be a black man living in an inner city neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experiences?

What do you thin it is like to be a white man living in a suburban neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experience?

I am a white woman living in the suburbs, but I work all day and a lot of nights in the inner city.

So then tell Me.

The everyday lives of the people in the suburbs consists of what? What do they do to get through their daily lives? Who do they think about? What motivates them? Are they concerned about their children? Are they doing their best to raise them in values they hold, and their parents hold? Do they go to work every day? How many of them will be found walking down the street, alone, at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4a.m.? How many of them spend their entire weekends seeking to hang out with friends instead of family?

I could go on and on with a list of daily activities that the majority of families in America suburbia partake which never bring them into contact with the police, or place them in suspicious situations.

This is normal America. They go to work, they go home and spend time with their families. They make time for a small handful of friends on the weekend (or they just do things around the house with family). Some will take a few hours a week to improve their education. Most of them will be concerned about the quality of the local schools, where they will get the money for advanced education for their children, retirement and maybe government overreach.

This is not to say that there are not misfits and a bad element in suburbia. There certainly are those who will also run afoul of the law. The point is, the culture of suburbia is one of trying to improve themselves, their community, and their family.

I know for some, they think this is some kind of fantasy world, yet it happens to Americans by the 10's of millions each and every day.

What did Castile do to bring himself into contact with police?

 

[Darkwind]

And where will it lead? Clinton says that whites need to listen...What about blacks?

Our problem is "ignorance."

Ignorance of history, Ignorance of the law, Ignorance of responsibility and Ignorance of accepting all people.

Have you ever watched these interviews of people who seemingly have had no education? They don't have a clue of history, current events or the challenge of accepting those who are different from ourselves.

Where there is ignorance, a breeding ground of hate and anger ensues. That is where we are.

One group will act in a certain manner and the opposite group; will retaliate in kind out of anger.

(Example: A police officer shoots a black. The media highlights the altercation. Blacks blame the police without knowledge of the entire scenario. Whites react to the actions of blacks for protesting. As each group incorrectly assume their action is appropriate, neither is. Anger piles on anger and people don't think logically any longer.)

If it is a winner is the last man standing, we are in for a long unsolvable war that will take more innocent lives. The rhetoric that encourages this resentment has to be stopped.

What do you think it is like to be a black man living in an inner city neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experiences?

What do you thin it is like to be a white man living in a suburban neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experience?

I am a white woman living in the suburbs, but I work all day and a lot of nights in the inner city.

So then tell Me.

The everyday lives of the people in the suburbs consists of what? What do they do to get through their daily lives? Who do they think about? What motivates them? Are they concerned about their children? Are they doing their best to raise them in values they hold, and their parents hold? Do they go to work every day? How many of them will be found walking down the street, alone, at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4a.m.? How many of them spend their entire weekends seeking to hang out with friends instead of family?

I could go on and on with a list of daily activities that the majority of families in America suburbia partake which never bring them into contact with the police, or place them in suspicious situations.

This is normal America. They go to work, they go home and spend time with their families. They make time for a small handful of friends on the weekend (or they just do things around the house with family). Some will take a few hours a week to improve their education. Most of them will be concerned about the quality of the local schools, where they will get the money for advanced education for their children, retirement and maybe government overreach.

This is not to say that there are not misfits and a bad element in suburbia. There certainly are those who will also run afoul of the law. The point is, the culture of suburbia is one of trying to improve themselves, their community, and their family.

I know for some, they think this is some kind of fantasy world, yet it happens to Americans by the 10's of millions each and every day.

What did Castile do to bring himself into contact with police?

Went right over your head.......Have a nice day.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What do you think it is like to be a black man living in an inner city neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experiences?

What do you thin it is like to be a white man living in a suburban neighborhood? Can you empathize outside of your personal experience?

I am a white woman living in the suburbs, but I work all day and a lot of nights in the inner city.

So then tell Me.

The everyday lives of the people in the suburbs consists of what? What do they do to get through their daily lives? Who do they think about? What motivates them? Are they concerned about their children? Are they doing their best to raise them in values they hold, and their parents hold? Do they go to work every day? How many of them will be found walking down the street, alone, at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4a.m.? How many of them spend their entire weekends seeking to hang out with friends instead of family?

I could go on and on with a list of daily activities that the majority of families in America suburbia partake which never bring them into contact with the police, or place them in suspicious situations.

This is normal America. They go to work, they go home and spend time with their families. They make time for a small handful of friends on the weekend (or they just do things around the house with family). Some will take a few hours a week to improve their education. Most of them will be concerned about the quality of the local schools, where they will get the money for advanced education for their children, retirement and maybe government overreach.

This is not to say that there are not misfits and a bad element in suburbia. There certainly are those who will also run afoul of the law. The point is, the culture of suburbia is one of trying to improve themselves, their community, and their family.

I know for some, they think this is some kind of fantasy world, yet it happens to Americans by the 10's of millions each and every day.

What did Castile do to bring himself into contact with police?

Went right over your head.......Have a nice day.

Or your point wasn't clear.

You can't answer the question within the context of your post?

 

[paulitician]

America is imploding. Americans are angry, exhausted and exasperated chasing that almighty dollar. They've become empty inside. Nothing can make them happy. You'd think such a wealthy nation would be a happier nation.

They've actually done studies, and the U.S. ranks real high on the list of most angry unhappy Citizens. The endless pursuit of money and things, can kill a person's soul. Americans are angry and they're turning on each other. It's getting very ugly. God help us.

And I don't know a soul who's not been battered
I don't have a friend who feels at ease
I don't know a dream that's not been shattered
or driven to its knees
But it's all right, it's all right
For we've lived so well so long
Still, when I think of the road we're traveling on
I wonder what's gone wrong
I can't help it, I wonder what's gone wrong...

"American Tune" Paul Simon

You're right.

...And getting along is overrated

What has this got to do with "getting along"?

It's hard to get along when you're angry and exhausted. Americans are literally working themselves to death. They're very unhappy. They're working harder & harder for less & less.

And if they do finally get ahead, they don't have time to enjoy it. It's back to work. It's an exasperating vicious circle of sorrow. The endless pursuit of that cash and things, is driving folks crazy. There is very little joy in America now. That's the ugly reality.

I've been there and done that at times in my life, and if that's what you're experiencing right now, my heart goes out to you. It isn't that way for everyone, though.

I hear ya, but it's that way for too many folks. Not much joy in America anymore.

 

[ptbw forever]

There is an incredible cycle of violence and hate. Not just one side has to understand...both sides need to understand. Close your eyes and ignore the color, but listen to the rhetoric.

Is anyone saying "Treat the person in front of you as you would want to be treated?

You don't have to love the other person but give them the respect you would want in return.

The key.....Stop using color to describe someone.

Yet he is campaigning for Hillary to draw black voters...

He is a fake.

 

[Correll]

And this nation is in bad shape and getting worse every day.

If you love this country, you should be angry.

Exactly what metric are you using here? Things are certainly different from when I was a child but every generation says that. What is so bad? (Except for Congress, that is certainly worse today than I can ever recall.)

Lots of them.

1. SOcial capital.

2. Middle class and working class wage stagnation.

3. Unsustainable finances, nationally and personally.

4. rising racial tensions and discrimination.

5. decline of the family, with all its' resulting problems.

6. Loss of confidence in the future.

that's off the top of my head.

Could you cite a few examples of number four and discrimination? Thanks.

The 230 point bonus blacks get for having black skin in Ivy League College admissions.

The New Haven Firefighter discrimination case.

thank you. I don't think either one of those would cause a black person to shoot five cops. What you have given as an example is not really discrimination. It is more like affirmative action. Now if blacks needed to get 230 points more to be accepted that would be discrimination.

1. I agree, neither of those would cause a black person to shoot 5 cops. There were offered as part of the requested list as to why I though the country was getting worse.


2. Giving a black person competing against a white person, 230 points for having black skin is discrimination against the white person in question.

3. That you can consider can support #2 and deny that it is discrimination is a reason for Whites to be angry.

4. Blacks needing 230 points to get accepted is NOT evidence of discrimination. What you just did there was "Disparate Impact Theory, ie the assumption that ANY situation or instance where blacks are disproportionately negatively impacted, that is must be racist.

That ignores all the other possible reasons in the world for such an impact and forces anyone who hires or recruits to discriminate against whites to avoid being assumed racist and liable for legal action.

As per the New Haven Firefighter case I posted above.

 

[pillars]

So then tell Me.

The everyday lives of the people in the suburbs consists of what? What do they do to get through their daily lives? Who do they think about? What motivates them? Are they concerned about their children? Are they doing their best to raise them in values they hold, and their parents hold? Do they go to work every day? How many of them will be found walking down the street, alone, at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4a.m.? How many of them spend their entire weekends seeking to hang out with friends instead of family?

I could go on and on with a list of daily activities that the majority of families in America suburbia partake which never bring them into contact with the police, or place them in suspicious situations.

This is normal America. They go to work, they go home and spend time with their families. They make time for a small handful of friends on the weekend (or they just do things around the house with family). Some will take a few hours a week to improve their education. Most of them will be concerned about the quality of the local schools, where they will get the money for advanced education for their children, retirement and maybe government overreach.

This is not to say that there are not misfits and a bad element in suburbia. There certainly are those who will also run afoul of the law. The point is, the culture of suburbia is one of trying to improve themselves, their community, and their family.

I know for some, they think this is some kind of fantasy world, yet it happens to Americans by the 10's of millions each and every day.

a healthy percentage of suburban americans smoke weed, but there is a small percentage of the amount of drug enforcement in my neighborhood compared to the black community that is near me.

The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts

Interestingly enough, blacks and whites use marijuana in the U.S. at very similar rates overall. White 18-25 year olds are about 20% more likely to smoke weed than their black peers. But blacks are arrested for marijuana possession at a rate that is 5 or 6 times higher.

Why do you think that is?

 

[Correll]

A hundred years ago, things were getting better each day, not worse.

A hundred years ago we were headed for a world war, a depression, and another world war.

Wars we won, and a depression we came out of .

Can you imagine a scenario in which we ever have a Trade Surplus again?

When do you think we will put another man on the Moon?

 

[Correll]

This whole situtation is liberal divide and conquer BS.

In my opinion for everyday, go to work, people black and white we DON'T hate each other. Blacks and whites work together with one problem, that I see. I don't hate blacks because they are black and I don't think blacks hate me only because I am white.

Is the situation in the inner city terrible, yes. Does that mean whites hate blacks, no. Are whites keep the blacks in the inner city. Well in my opinion, yes, the democrat policies have kept white and black poor, poor. But that has nothing to do with hate it is just the situation.

Are there cops that profile blacks as being a bigger risk than whites, sure, I think I might do the same, doesn't mean I would shoot them for no reason. Especially in the inner city.

What America does have are race baiters like Mrs. Tuzla. Who only blames one side of the equation. When in fact it is people like her who are the problem. Need proof that people like Mrs. Tuzla make things worse, just look around.

Now the question is what do we do about the urban hell holes that lots of poor live in? Give handouts? Or create jobs? I think working and earning a living is the way to go. But that appears to be the direct opposite of democrat policy. Bring in millions of poor is only going to make things worse, but then again, maybe that is what people like Mrs. Tuzla wants.

How does me having apathy for the inner city poor make their situation any better? How can I make it better for them? No sir there is only one person who can brake the cycle for the inner city poor, and it is them when given the opportunity.

I don't hate blacks and I think it is a shame when one is shot needlessly.

I've been an adult education teacher for the past couple years, and I have to take exception to your statement that the Democrats (although they don't have the majority in D.C., do they?) are not trying to help the poor get jobs. The going theory is that to earn a living wage, you need a certain amount of education. Almost everything we do with students no matter what THEIR goals--an equivalency diploma, English as a Second Language, remedial math, college level tutoring--the government insists on a lengthy "plan" listing what they want for a career and tracks steps to achieve that. It's a big pain in the butt. But it is definitely a government initiative to get the poor trained and working. Everyone wants people off assistance, including the people on assistance. Our biggest problem here is that even with improved education, there are extremely few jobs around here that earn a good living wage.

So, with your last sentence you admit that they are spending a lot of effort training people for jobs that are not there.

That's not really helping.

THat's creating the illusion of helping to make themselves feel good and to get votes.


Trump's trade and immigration policies would lead to more jobs and better wages for those poor people.

 

[Correll]

So then tell Me.

The everyday lives of the people in the suburbs consists of what? What do they do to get through their daily lives? Who do they think about? What motivates them? Are they concerned about their children? Are they doing their best to raise them in values they hold, and their parents hold? Do they go to work every day? How many of them will be found walking down the street, alone, at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4a.m.? How many of them spend their entire weekends seeking to hang out with friends instead of family?

I could go on and on with a list of daily activities that the majority of families in America suburbia partake which never bring them into contact with the police, or place them in suspicious situations.

This is normal America. They go to work, they go home and spend time with their families. They make time for a small handful of friends on the weekend (or they just do things around the house with family). Some will take a few hours a week to improve their education. Most of them will be concerned about the quality of the local schools, where they will get the money for advanced education for their children, retirement and maybe government overreach.

This is not to say that there are not misfits and a bad element in suburbia. There certainly are those who will also run afoul of the law. The point is, the culture of suburbia is one of trying to improve themselves, their community, and their family.

I know for some, they think this is some kind of fantasy world, yet it happens to Americans by the 10's of millions each and every day.

a healthy percentage of suburban americans smoke weed, but there is a small percentage of the amount of drug enforcement in my neighborhood compared to the black community that is near me.

The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts

Interestingly enough, blacks and whites use marijuana in the U.S. at very similar rates overall. White 18-25 year olds are about 20% more likely to smoke weed than their black peers. But blacks are arrested for marijuana possession at a rate that is 5 or 6 times higher.

Why do you think that is?

I recall a bar fight I witnessed.

A black guy and a white guy got into a fight at the bar.

The bouncer broke it up, and the bartender told them that he had called the cops.


The white guy apologized and left. The black guy stayed to bitch at the bar tender.

When I left he was bitching at the cops, very loudly.


He got arrested and the white guy did not.

On paper, a liberal would assume that was defacto evidence of racism.

But in reality, there was a serious difference in behavior, that lead to different results.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A hundred years ago, things were getting better each day, not worse.

A hundred years ago we were headed for a world war, a depression, and another world war.

Wars we won, and a depression we came out of .

Can you imagine a scenario in which we ever have a Trade Surplus again?

When do you think we will put another man on the Moon?

Trade surplus?
What do we produce in America anymore that can't be sourced from elsewhere in the world? The days of dominating world production are gone.

NASA is developing the equipment for their next mission. A manned mission to Mars.

 

[Correll]

And where will it lead? Clinton says that whites need to listen...What about blacks?

Our problem is "ignorance."

Ignorance of history, Ignorance of the law, Ignorance of responsibility and Ignorance of accepting all people.

Have you ever watched these interviews of people who seemingly have had no education? They don't have a clue of history, current events or the challenge of accepting those who are different from ourselves.

Where there is ignorance, a breeding ground of hate and anger ensues. That is where we are.

One group will act in a certain manner and the opposite group; will retaliate in kind out of anger.

(Example: A police officer shoots a black. The media highlights the altercation. Blacks blame the police without knowledge of the entire scenario. Whites react to the actions of blacks for protesting. As each group incorrectly assume their action is appropriate, neither is. Anger piles on anger and people don't think logically any longer.)

If it is a winner is the last man standing, we are in for a long unsolvable war that will take more innocent lives. The rhetoric that encourages this resentment has to be stopped.

If you guys just let liberal thinkers do what is right and what is necessary, we will fix this. Or we can stick to the status quo which is what conservatives want to do. But that's only working for them.

Your candidate is the statue quo candidate supported by the 1%.

The GOP candidate is the rebel with new ideas, that is trying to change things.

 

[alang1216]

A hundred years ago, things were getting better each day, not worse.

A hundred years ago we were headed for a world war, a depression, and another world war.

Wars we won, and a depression we came out of .

Can you imagine a scenario in which we ever have a Trade Surplus again?

When do you think we will put another man on the Moon?

I don't know that we won our recent wars but they are winding down and we came out of a recent recession OK.

I'm pretty sure we export way more oil and nat. gas than ever. Facebook and twitter rule. As does our entertainment industry. So yeah, as the world recovers we'll export even more.

We'll be putting robots on the moon and men on Mars.

 

[Correll]

A hundred years ago, things were getting better each day, not worse.

A hundred years ago we were headed for a world war, a depression, and another world war.

Wars we won, and a depression we came out of .

Can you imagine a scenario in which we ever have a Trade Surplus again?

When do you think we will put another man on the Moon?

Trade surplus?
What do we produce in America anymore that can't be sourced from elsewhere in the world? The days of dominating world production are gone.

NASA is developing the equipment for their next mission. A manned mission to Mars.

Neither of those two facts mean we have to run an ever increasing Trade Deficit forever. Yet we are and will continue, unless something drastically changes.

NASA is playing with themselves the same way they have been for the last 40 years.

 

[Correll]

A hundred years ago, things were getting better each day, not worse.

A hundred years ago we were headed for a world war, a depression, and another world war.

Wars we won, and a depression we came out of .

Can you imagine a scenario in which we ever have a Trade Surplus again?

When do you think we will put another man on the Moon?

I don't know that we won our recent wars but they are winding down and we came out of a recent recession OK.

I'm pretty sure we export way more oil and nat. gas than ever. Facebook and twitter rule. As does our entertainment industry. So yeah, as the world recovers we'll export even more.

We'll be putting robots on the moon and men on Mars.

1. We didn't.

2. And the recovery was weak, and only seems good relatively speaking. Working and Middle CLass wages have been stagnant for decades, when they should be CLIMBING.

3. Our Trade Deficits are setting new records just about every year, with no end in sight.

4. We will not put men on mars, not in the lifetime of anyone alive today.

 

[Correll]

And where will it lead? Clinton says that whites need to listen...What about blacks?

Our problem is "ignorance."

Ignorance of history, Ignorance of the law, Ignorance of responsibility and Ignorance of accepting all people.

Have you ever watched these interviews of people who seemingly have had no education? They don't have a clue of history, current events or the challenge of accepting those who are different from ourselves.

Where there is ignorance, a breeding ground of hate and anger ensues. That is where we are.

One group will act in a certain manner and the opposite group; will retaliate in kind out of anger.

(Example: A police officer shoots a black. The media highlights the altercation. Blacks blame the police without knowledge of the entire scenario. Whites react to the actions of blacks for protesting. As each group incorrectly assume their action is appropriate, neither is. Anger piles on anger and people don't think logically any longer.)

If it is a winner is the last man standing, we are in for a long unsolvable war that will take more innocent lives. The rhetoric that encourages this resentment has to be stopped.

Do Whites hate Blacks? Some do and some don't.

Do Blacks hate Whites? Some do and some don't.

For the most part I suspect each of the two groups practices avoidance of each other. But that is not what you would call hate.

I am White and I have Black friends. One is from work and the others are from sports. One lives in the neighborhood with his White wife and bronze complectioned kid. The rest of my friends and neighbors are White or Latino.

This lack of interface between most Blacks and most Whites is what enables each to create a notion of "Boogieman" for the other. Then "the other" becomes "them". And this results in "us against them".

Us against them can lead to anger.

If the Blacks feel and believe they are being victimized by the White cops, then they can easily become angry against first cops then against the Whites who pay their salaries with their own taxes.

And, in turn, when protesters bring in Hate Groups and yell that only black lives matter, whites become enraged. Both black and white people have to stand up and say, "We are more alike than we are different. We become angry when treated poorly, so let US STOP!"

You know, not everything is about white people.

Some black people are communicating that they still yet don't feel all of the progress that most of us have already felt. That only enrages whites who happen to be assholes who insist on making everything about themselves.

An utterly stupid comment early on in this thread asks if a black man could empathize with a suburban white man. Empathize? It's the dream of people of color to be treated as well by systemic forces working against them, like cops that are bad apples. They dream of that day. The real question is if ignorant ass white people can empathize with people who are still scapegoated, oppressed, and mistreated because they are black and because some bad apples still have hate in their hearts for blacks.

As a white person, I am done with having this all put on me.

None of black people's problems are my fault and I reject any claim on me because of their fucked up issues.

They DO need to empathize with that, if they want to have any constructive discussion at all.

BTW, fuck you, for calling us "ignorant ass white people".

 

[Correll]

Racism...Racial Division....it's forced on us like a fire hose. It has been 'fed' to us for a long time, but it is getting worse.

It has come from the TOP down, Saul Alinsky's 'Rules For Radicals, specifically how to divide a nation along racial lines to distract and divide for political change / to push an agenda....

It has come from race-baiting profiteers, such as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, the NAACP - racism is a multi-billion dollar a year INDUSTRY, and those pushing racism are cashing in. If racism suddenly disappeared overnight just look at how it would have an impact: The NAACP and all those involved with it administratively would go broke, Sharpton/Jackson would have to find REAL jobs, politicians would no longer be able to divide Americans with hatred / fear-mongering - they would actually have to persuade us and win us over to their ideas based on facts and real issues......

Nancy Reagan's anti-drug campaign years ago had a very simple message - 'Just say 'No' to drugs'. To defeat this racist upheaval / movement' almost the same message need be applied - 'Just say 'No' to Racist / Race-Baiters'.

'Love one Another'. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.'
- These are the ONLY words we should be embracing right now. THAT would solve the majority of our problems right now.

During a 16-hour train ride, at 2am, we stopped at a station in a little town somewhere between Fla and Ga. A little old black woman struggled to get her bags on-board the train. I heard her begin to move up the aisle. Several men and women looked at her angrily because she was making noise and they were trying to sleep. No one moved to help her. I got up and approached her. She must have thought I was going to try to get past her or that I was coming to complain, because she apologized for being in the way and for the noise. I smiled, told her it was no problem, picked up her heavy suitcase as I smiled, and asked her what seat she was in. UNFORTUNATELY there was an initial look of shock on her face - when an act of kindness should not have been a shock to anyone. She smiled and told me her seat number. I carried her bag to the seat, stored in the overhead compartment, she thanked me, I said again, 'No problem, ma'am', then headed back to my seat. The whole thing took less than 4 minutes...and made such a huge difference.

1 act of kindness at a time. 1 gesture of solidarity at a time. 1 decision to reject selfishness and the constant bombardment of 'racism' / 'racist' / race-baiting at a time. That's all it takes.

'Love one another. Do unto others as you would have done unto you.' Unfortunately that message is being drowned out by messages of hate and division. Just say 'no'.

I recall once I went to buy a pack of rollos.

I went to hand them to the young and attractive woman behind the counter, and like a complete klutz failed to do so, and dropped the item which rolled toward the edge of the counter facing the young woman.

She caught it, and in a pathetically transparent attempt to cover for my clumsiness I made a minor quip about "rolling some rollos" to my friend.

The middle aged black man behind me interpreted that as being disrespectful to the young black woman behind the counter and began ranting.

I looked at him in shock, like he was fucking nuts. Because he was.

I paid for my candy and left.

There is nothing that I or any white person can do about people like that, who interpret a piece of dropped candy as a Racist Insult.