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From the link above, which redefines socialism inaccurately to further less than noble aims.
Different self-described socialists have used the term socialism to refer to different things, such as an economic system, a type of society, a philosophical outlook, a collection of moral values and ideals, or even a certain kind of human character.
Socialism is "a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." https://www.google.com/#q=socialism+definition
If that had been tried in a government, history, economic, etc, class in college, the argument would have failed on definition of terms.
Words have meanings, and you, edgetho, don't get to change the meanings.
Socialism is a centrally planned economy. Marxism, crony capitalism, fascism and other forms of government dominated economic decisions are all just variations of socialism.
Capitalism is economic freedom where producers, consumers and employees make their own choices and drive economic efficiency.
Socialism makes the people who run government rich. Capitalism makes the people who make good choices rich. The difference is simple.
Yes it is. For the simple minded and those challenged by reality.
The Counties north of San Francisco are known world wide for the wines they produce, the coastal county to the south of SF produces Artichokes known world wide and to our far north - in the Emerald Triangle some of the best Marijuana is grown - soon to be the major cash crop in the US.
Spell it 'secession', and we can go from there.
Any state can leave the Union, provided the other states approve.
Won't happen.
This matter was settled in the 1860s. The Confederacy lost. We're a Union. Get used to it.
I believe that they are demanding a rematch.
More advanced weapons, IED's , the conviction to be free, now Texas is a powerhouse which can easily defeat any of the sissified states in Yankeeland.
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Who would want to fight to keep Texas? Maybe fight to make sure it leaves, sure.
Socialism is a centrally planned economy. Marxism, crony capitalism, fascism and other forms of government dominated economic decisions are all just variations of socialism.
Capitalism is economic freedom where producers, consumers and employees make their own choices and drive economic efficiency.
Socialism makes the people who run government rich. Capitalism makes the people who make good choices rich. The difference is simple.
Yes it is. For the simple minded and those challenged by reality.
What is reality challenged is believing that people who don't work hard will work harder if you give them money for doing nothing while people who work hard will continue to work hard if you allow them to keep little of the wealth they created.
Buy hey, you believe politicians, you're not highly in tune with reality, so I wouldn't expect you to know that.
For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
A#3, if the NSA gave two shits about you, you'd know it. Since you're going to reply, I'm guessing they have better things to do.
Ah. The old "if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about" fallacy! Our Founders are rollling in their graves.
Correct.
It doesnt make any difference where anyone stands on such a ridiculous non-issue; its un-Constitutional for a single state to secede from the Union and indeed it will never happen.
A#1, you're not seceding.No dick breath;
You have a bunch of idiots here who state they would leave the US in a heartbeat but never seem to leave despite the repeated "threats" to do so. Nothing is keeping them here and nobody will miss them of course but somehow they can't muster the courage to back it up.
The founding fathers left when they said they were going to leave. History tells the tale of John Hancock signing his name large enough so King Henry could read it without his glasses. Those men were signing their death warrants.
The "men" here who say they are ready to bolt are worried about not being able to eat at Little Caesars 5 nights a week.
No different nowadays.
The NSA has our computers IP addresses, reads our emails , listens to our phone calls -- why the fuck do you think we are seceding.
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A#2, the founders crossed an ocean after saving for years in most cases. You could catch a plane to any continent in the world (save for Antarctica) tomorrow for less than 10% of a yearly salary.
A#3, if the NSA gave two shits about you, you'd know it. Since you're going to reply, I'm guessing they have better things to do.
I say that if you have as state that tries to leave the union, there will be a war with that state. Why not just fight the war and remove the socialists and kill two birds with one stone?For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
Bullshit. My internet privacy software changes my IP address every hour.
Bwahahahah
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For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
We could swap out Texas for Puerto Rico and never have to change the flag.
I think California and New York should just take over things and say unless you want to starve or go back to the dark ages, step in line and do as we say.
Texas would fair pretty well as an independent state, imo.
Bullshit. My internet privacy software changes my IP address every hour.
Bwahahahah
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Changing your private IP does nothing. You are NATed to an ISP, who can be traced. If you truly want to hide your tracks, you need to route through an offshore provider and shifting proxy servers.
I say that if you have as state that tries to leave the union, there will be a war with that state. Why not just fight the war and remove the socialists and kill two birds with one stone?For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
Yes it is. For the simple minded and those challenged by reality.
What is reality challenged is believing that people who don't work hard will work harder if you give them money for doing nothing while people who work hard will continue to work hard if you allow them to keep little of the wealth they created.
Buy hey, you believe politicians, you're not highly in tune with reality, so I wouldn't expect you to know that.
I know you are a white collar professional.
Can you provide a professional example of how YOU work hard?
Can you provide a professional example of how YOU work smart?
Is there a difference?
Well, I provide the tools, so I would rephrase that. My hardest job is driving the people who don't fit out. Last year was hard, I was 4 years in and I'd acquired several businesses and merged them. Last spring I drove a major reorganization, we got rid of almost a third our staff. However, revenue went up last year significantly again, and I didn't replace one of them. People were concerned at first, but after things settled down, they said it was actually easier without the dead wood around. I was ready to hire a few people if I had to, I never had to. We probably will need to hire mid year, but it's because we're still growing at a rapid clip.Are the people you work with and the tools you are provided a factor in the hard/smart ratio?
As a disclosure, I find that working with smart, cooperative people provides a Work Smart environment.
For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
Lets take a state like Tennessee, how would that work out for them if the other states in the Union sealed their borders and didn't let anything go in or out of Tennessee? What if they did the same with their airspace? What about mail delivery, the power lines coming from the other states, etc. etc.
I'm against secession, but if it's a state's right to do so Constitutionally, what can you do? I will ad this:
"With all fifty states offering petitions to the central government to leave the Union, the legality of secession is now front page news in the United States. Can a state legally secede from the Union? Many, including Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia, suggest no. In a 2006 letter, available here, Scalia argued that a the question was not in the realm of legal possibility because 1) the United States would not be party to a lawsuit on the issue 2) the constitutional basis of secession had been resolved by the Civil War, and 3) there is no right to secede, as the Pledge of Allegiance clearly illustrates through the line one nation, indivisible.
Scalia is not the first Supreme Court justice to establish this position. In the case of Texas v. White in 1869, Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase wrote that, The union between Texas and the other states was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original states. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States. The majority opinion struck down the Texas Ordinance of Secession, calling it null, and crafted a decision that rendered all acts of secession illegal according to the perpetual union of both the Articles of Confederation and subsequent Constitution for the United States. Chase did leave an opening, revolution or the consent of the States, but without either, secession could never be considered a legal act."
Is Secession Legal? | The American Conservative
I say that if you have as state that tries to leave the union, there will be a war with that state. Why not just fight the war and remove the socialists and kill two birds with one stone?For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
