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For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
you've finally come out as a nutter?
Socialism? As in social security?
Most states you'd like couldn't afford to exist without federal subsidies
The Founders rebelling against British rule is not the same thing as secession. It's similar in spirit, but not in law. The Constitution has no provision for secession, and the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled such efforts are unlawful.
It's a logistical nightmare imaging modern secession. Let's say some state did, do they give back all federal property and assets? Forgo military protection and federal law enforcement resources? The state would become a defacto 3rd world country overnight. And unless they have resources adequate to sutain themselves, what about food, water, and electricity? These are only a handfull of the issues they'd face.
Simple reality is this: anyone proposing secession is less mature than a child who threatens to run away from home by living in the backyard.
The Founders rebelling against British rule is not the same thing as secession. It's similar in spirit, but not in law. The Constitution has no provision for secession, and the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled such efforts are unlawful.
A gang of Lincoln appointed hacks ruled it unconstitutional. That ruling was clearly offensive to the Constitution and to simple logic. Before the war, most people believed it was constitutional. They only changed their minds when they realized that the Confederacy was going to become a free trade zone and wouldn't have to purchase overpriced Northern manufactured products any longer.
It's a logistical nightmare imaging modern secession. Let's say some state did, do they give back all federal property and assets? Forgo military protection and federal law enforcement resources? The state would become a defacto 3rd world country overnight. And unless they have resources adequate to sutain themselves, what about food, water, and electricity? These are only a handfull of the issues they'd face.
Pure horseshit. There have been many recent examples of territories seceding from the parent countries. Take the former soviet union, for example. Is Poland a third world country? Is Hungary a third world country?
Simple reality is this: anyone proposing secession is less mature than a child who threatens to run away from home by living in the backyard.
Simple reality: You're an ignorant jackass.
The Founders rebelling against British rule is not the same thing as secession. It's similar in spirit, but not in law. The Constitution has no provision for secession, and the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled such efforts are unlawful.
A gang of Lincoln appointed hacks ruled it unconstitutional. That ruling was clearly offensive to the Constitution and to simple logic. Before the war, most people believed it was constitutional. They only changed their minds when they realized that the Confederacy was going to become a free trade zone and wouldn't have to purchase overpriced Northern manufactured products any longer.
Pure horseshit. There have been many recent examples of territories seceding from the parent countries. Take the former soviet union, for example. Is Poland a third world country? Is Hungary a third world country?
Simple reality is this: anyone proposing secession is less mature than a child who threatens to run away from home by living in the backyard.
Simple reality: You're an ignorant jackass.
You're ignorance of this era is astounding
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A gang of Lincoln appointed hacks ruled it unconstitutional. .
A gang of Lincoln appointed hacks ruled it unconstitutional. That ruling was clearly offensive to the Constitution and to simple logic. Before the war, most people believed it was constitutional. They only changed their minds when they realized that the Confederacy was going to become a free trade zone and wouldn't have to purchase overpriced Northern manufactured products any longer.
Pure horseshit. There have been many recent examples of territories seceding from the parent countries. Take the former soviet union, for example. Is Poland a third world country? Is Hungary a third world country?
Simple reality: You're an ignorant jackass.
You're ignorance of this era is astounding
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Feel free to demonstrate my ignorance. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
A gang of Lincoln appointed hacks ruled it unconstitutional. .
There have been a lot of Supreme Court justices appointed since Lincoln. Has any combination of them ruled otherwise since then?
A gang of Lincoln appointed hacks ruled it unconstitutional. .
There have been a lot of Supreme Court justices appointed since Lincoln. Has any combination of them ruled otherwise since then?
The USSC operates on the principle of stare decesis. In other words, precedent, once established, is seldom overturned. The history of the court is filled with wrong decisions. What makes you think this one is any different from the others?
You're ignorance of this era is astounding
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Feel free to demonstrate my ignorance. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
Why when none of my multitude tries penetrated in that thick skull of yours. You have a romantic vision of what the south was back then and refuse to hear the truth.
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The Declaration Of Independence makes it obvious that our Founding Fathers saw the right to secede as one of the rights endowed to us by our Creator, actually our duty when it's seen as the last resort.
You cannot support the American Revolution and deny States their Right to secede. It's like an oxymoron.
more perfect union?
good gawd you people are dense and moronic when it comes to constitutional issues, history, interpretation, and truths.
There have been a lot of Supreme Court justices appointed since Lincoln. Has any combination of them ruled otherwise since then?
The USSC operates on the principle of stare decesis. In other words, precedent, once established, is seldom overturned. The history of the court is filled with wrong decisions. What makes you think this one is any different from the others?
Is there some reason you are afraid to answer my question directly? You sure do seem to be afraid of a lot of things. I don't think you would have lasted too long in your beloved traitorous confederacy, bri-bri.
The USSC operates on the principle of stare decesis. In other words, precedent, once established, is seldom overturned. The history of the court is filled with wrong decisions. What makes you think this one is any different from the others?
Is there some reason you are afraid to answer my question directly? You sure do seem to be afraid of a lot of things. I don't think you would have lasted too long in your beloved traitorous confederacy, bri-bri.
I just answered it, numbnuts. .
Is there some reason you are afraid to answer my question directly? You sure do seem to be afraid of a lot of things. I don't think you would have lasted too long in your beloved traitorous confederacy, bri-bri.
I just answered it, numbnuts. .
No, you were afraid to give a direct answer like a man because the answer makes you look like an idiot. Instead, you whined about it like a little girl. I notice you take this approach on many subjects. Go play with your dollies now.
I just answered it, numbnuts. .
No, you were afraid to give a direct answer like a man because the answer makes you look like an idiot. Instead, you whined about it like a little girl. I notice you take this approach on many subjects. Go play with your dollies now.
I answered it, shit-for-brains.
No, you were afraid to give a direct answer like a man because the answer makes you look like an idiot. Instead, you whined about it like a little girl. I notice you take this approach on many subjects. Go play with your dollies now.
I answered it, shit-for-brains.
Maybe when you grow up to be a big girl you'll find the backbone to answer a question directly. Probably not, but maybe.
BTW, the confederacy lost. Had you heard? Just thought I'd make sure you knew.
I answered it, shit-for-brains.
Maybe when you grow up to be a big girl you'll find the backbone to answer a question directly. Probably not, but maybe.
BTW, the confederacy lost. Had you heard? Just thought I'd make sure you knew.
Has this lame-assed tactic worked for you in the past?
Maybe when you grow up to be a big girl you'll find the backbone to answer a question directly. Probably not, but maybe.
BTW, the confederacy lost. Had you heard? Just thought I'd make sure you knew.
Has this lame-assed tactic worked for you in the past?
Many tactics have been used in the past in the attempt to arrive at a given result under a given set of circumstances. These tactics have had a variety of effects on a variety of subjects under a variety of conditions. "Tactic" is a noun meaning an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Tactics that involve pointing out a subject's obvious behavior tend to have positive results in either informing the subject or exposing him or her to public ridicule when said behavior is revealed as shameful or craven.
There, that should answer your question in the manner to which you are accustomed.
Has this lame-assed tactic worked for you in the past?
Many tactics have been used in the past in the attempt to arrive at a given result under a given set of circumstances. These tactics have had a variety of effects on a variety of subjects under a variety of conditions. "Tactic" is a noun meaning an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Tactics that involve pointing out a subject's obvious behavior tend to have positive results in either informing the subject or exposing him or her to public ridicule when said behavior is revealed as shameful or craven.
There, that should answer your question in the manner to which you are accustomed.
I don't feel any shame, and you're the only one attacking me.
For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
