Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Surely you jest.

How can liberated Palestine not be an independent state?

(COMMENT)

Independence implies two things:

◈ No latent government or government in exile takes immediate control and begins exercising sovereignty.

◈ No other real authority exercises the control over the territory maintains the real control.​

In the case of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there was no (working) Palestinian government waiting and no territory to which the Arab Palestinian exercised sovereign governmental powers. In other words, there had to be a Palestinian Government that was displaced and in exile or a (which there was not) or upon liberation, there was no other government already in control.

Most Respectfully,
R

Occupations do not negate the right to sovereignty.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Surely you jest.

How can liberated Palestine not be an independent state?

(COMMENT)

Independence implies two things:

◈ No latent government or government in exile takes immediate control and begins exercising sovereignty.

◈ No other real authority exercises the control over the territory maintains the real control.​

In the case of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there was no (working) Palestinian government waiting and no territory to which the Arab Palestinian exercised sovereign governmental powers. In other words, there had to be a Palestinian Government that was displaced and in exile or a (which there was not) or upon liberation, there was no other government already in control.

Most Respectfully,
R

Occupations do not negate the right to sovereignty.

You didn't understand any of what was offered to you.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you only tell have the story.

​

Surely you jest.

How can liberated Palestine not be an independent state?

(COMMENT)

Independence implies two things:

◈ No latent government or government in exile takes immediate control and begins exercising sovereignty.

◈ No other real authority exercises the control over the territory maintains the real control.​

In the case of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there was no (working) Palestinian government waiting and no territory to which the Arab Palestinian exercised sovereign governmental powers. In other words, there had to be a Palestinian Government that was displaced and in exile or a (which there was not) or upon liberation, there was no other government already in control.

Most Respectfully,
R

Occupations do not negate the right to sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

Periodically you bring this point up. And it has to be re-explained to you over and over again.

FIRST:

✦ You are correct, that → "occupation" does not "negate" the "right of sovereignty."
​

SECOND:

✦ The inverse is just as true, that → "right of sovereignty" does not "negate" the "occupation."
​

This is a question of understanding negative rights:

• negative rights usually oblige inaction •
Re-Evaluated
✦ "right of sovereignty" usually "oblige inaction" ✦
​

THIRD:

✦ The → "right of sovereignty" is a "negative right."​

Just because you have the "right to sovereignty" does not mean the power that maintains effective control must give way (positive rights that oblige an action to give way) to the claimant.

What the "right to sovereignty" means is that given the opportunity the Arab Palestinians have the political right to attempt independence (given no objection by the Power holding effective control). It does not mean that an "Occupation Power" must give-up the territory under its effective control. That would be to oblige an action (handing over territory).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you only tell have the story.

View attachment 248050
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Surely you jest.

How can liberated Palestine not be an independent state?

(COMMENT)

Independence implies two things:

◈ No latent government or government in exile takes immediate control and begins exercising sovereignty.

◈ No other real authority exercises the control over the territory maintains the real control.​

In the case of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there was no (working) Palestinian government waiting and no territory to which the Arab Palestinian exercised sovereign governmental powers. In other words, there had to be a Palestinian Government that was displaced and in exile or a (which there was not) or upon liberation, there was no other government already in control.

Most Respectfully,
R

Occupations do not negate the right to sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

Periodically you bring this point up. And it has to be re-explained to you over and over again.

FIRST:

✦ You are correct, that → "occupation" does not "negate" the "right of sovereignty."
​

SECOND:

✦ The inverse is just as true, that → "right of sovereignty" does not "negate" the "occupation."
​

This is a question of understanding negative rights:

• negative rights usually oblige inaction •
Re-Evaluated
✦ "right of sovereignty" usually "oblige inaction" ✦
​

THIRD:

✦ The → "right of sovereignty" is a "negative right."​

Just because you have the "right to sovereignty" does not mean the power that maintains effective control must give way (positive rights that oblige an action to give way) to the claimant.

What the "right to sovereignty" means is that given the opportunity the Arab Palestinians have the political right to attempt independence (given no objection by the Power holding effective control). It does not mean that an "Occupation Power" must give-up the territory under its effective control. That would be to oblige an action (handing over territory).

Most Respectfully,
R

What are the Palestinians asking Israel to give up?

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you only tell have the story.

View attachment 248050
​

Surely you jest.

How can liberated Palestine not be an independent state?

(COMMENT)

Independence implies two things:

◈ No latent government or government in exile takes immediate control and begins exercising sovereignty.

◈ No other real authority exercises the control over the territory maintains the real control.​

In the case of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there was no (working) Palestinian government waiting and no territory to which the Arab Palestinian exercised sovereign governmental powers. In other words, there had to be a Palestinian Government that was displaced and in exile or a (which there was not) or upon liberation, there was no other government already in control.

Most Respectfully,
R

Occupations do not negate the right to sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

Periodically you bring this point up. And it has to be re-explained to you over and over again.

FIRST:

✦ You are correct, that → "occupation" does not "negate" the "right of sovereignty."
​

SECOND:

✦ The inverse is just as true, that → "right of sovereignty" does not "negate" the "occupation."
​

This is a question of understanding negative rights:

• negative rights usually oblige inaction •
Re-Evaluated
✦ "right of sovereignty" usually "oblige inaction" ✦
​

THIRD:

✦ The → "right of sovereignty" is a "negative right."​

Just because you have the "right to sovereignty" does not mean the power that maintains effective control must give way (positive rights that oblige an action to give way) to the claimant.

What the "right to sovereignty" means is that given the opportunity the Arab Palestinians have the political right to attempt independence (given no objection by the Power holding effective control). It does not mean that an "Occupation Power" must give-up the territory under its effective control. That would be to oblige an action (handing over territory).

Most Respectfully,
R

What are the Palestinians asking Israel to give up?

You know very well. Just check the Map of Palestine.

Enough said.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, you only tell have the story.

View attachment 248050
​

Surely you jest.

How can liberated Palestine not be an independent state?

(COMMENT)

Independence implies two things:

◈ No latent government or government in exile takes immediate control and begins exercising sovereignty.

◈ No other real authority exercises the control over the territory maintains the real control.​

In the case of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, there was no (working) Palestinian government waiting and no territory to which the Arab Palestinian exercised sovereign governmental powers. In other words, there had to be a Palestinian Government that was displaced and in exile or a (which there was not) or upon liberation, there was no other government already in control.

Most Respectfully,
R

Occupations do not negate the right to sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

Periodically you bring this point up. And it has to be re-explained to you over and over again.

FIRST:

✦ You are correct, that → "occupation" does not "negate" the "right of sovereignty."
​

SECOND:

✦ The inverse is just as true, that → "right of sovereignty" does not "negate" the "occupation."
​

This is a question of understanding negative rights:

• negative rights usually oblige inaction •
Re-Evaluated
✦ "right of sovereignty" usually "oblige inaction" ✦
​

THIRD:

✦ The → "right of sovereignty" is a "negative right."​

Just because you have the "right to sovereignty" does not mean the power that maintains effective control must give way (positive rights that oblige an action to give way) to the claimant.

What the "right to sovereignty" means is that given the opportunity the Arab Palestinians have the political right to attempt independence (given no objection by the Power holding effective control). It does not mean that an "Occupation Power" must give-up the territory under its effective control. That would be to oblige an action (handing over territory).

Most Respectfully,
R

What are the Palestinians asking Israel to give up?

Their lives.

Read the Hamas charter.

Listen to islamic gee-had.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hamas member dies of "heart attack" while in attack tunnel ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Lets look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Lets look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Lets look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

They have to be ON the land. Neither Egypt, nor Israel are on Gaza.

And Israel is not on Areas A or B.

It totally debunks your theory, but of course you are speaking of ALL the area of the Mandate for Palestine which the Muslims do not have any sovereignty on, or rather, are Occupying, the same way as the Hashemites are occupying TransJordan since 1925.

"Israel does not exist" is your mantra.

We got that a long time ago.

 

[Shusha]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Lets look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

Inability to be create sovereignty does not equal sovereignty. You can't just wish for it.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

1. I did not say that "military control" was the same as "sovereignty." This is just an attempt to avoid the question.

2. You cannot have sovereignty over the territory for which you have no control. You cannot have a successful claim of sovereignty over another countries territorial control.

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Let's look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

(COMMENT)

Q4: What sovereignty do the Arab Palestinians claim?​

The reason you avoid answering these questions is because the answers themselves prove the Arab Palestinians have very little territory over which they might claim sovereignty.

✪ It is generally understood that the Arab Palestinians may NOT use or encourage the use of economic, political or any other type of measures to coerce aimed at Israel in order to obtain from it the subordination of the exercise of its sovereign rights or to secure from it advantages of any kind.

✪ It is generally understood that the Arab Palestinians may NOT organize, assist, foment, Finance, incite or tolerate subversive, terrorist or armed activities directed towards the violent overthrow of the Jewish National Home or the State of Israel.

✪ The use of Jihadists, Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Troublemakers, Adherents, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter to deprive the Jewish Peoples of their national identity constitutes a violation of their inalienable rights and of the principle of non-intervention.

✪ Nothing in the Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of Their Independence and Sovereignty (A/RES/20/2131) shall be construed as affecting in any manner Israels right of self-defense in the ongoing direct threats (from 1947 to the present) expressed by the Arab Palestinians. Israel may take whatever steps are necessary in the maintenance of territorial integrity and sovereignty, and to secure the safety of its citizenry.​

I find it rather charming for pro-Arab Palestinians to think that they have a right to improperly impose on the Israelis their sovereignty. And I find it quite impossible for anyone to believe that the Arab Palestinians can just verbally take control and impose their sovereignty over a territory for which they have no territorial integrity or control.

When HM the King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank, that this abandonment somehow left the territory to the Arab Palestinians when the Arab Palestinian had not yet declared independence and the Israelis had maintained control continuously from the 1967 Six-Day War to present.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Lets look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

Deflection.

 

[Hollie]

The happy-fun islamic terrorist enclaves of Gaza and Abbas'istan are trading new accusations after Abbas has decreed new cuts to welfare payments affecting many in gaza.

What is laughably absurd is that the two competing mini-caliphates are operated as little more than rival street gangs engaged in a turf war.

Imagine the Crips and the Bloods with Korans.



Gaza's breadwinners defiant in the face of Palestinian Authority salary cuts

Following Hamas's rise to power in Gaza, the PA requested that its 70,000 civil servants in the Strip - many of whom were members of the Palestinian security forces - cease working under Hamas, but continued to pay them.

The PA currently employs around 50,000 people in Gaza who still receive a salary despite not having worked since 2007 - a move it says is carried out to ensure their loyalty and inject much-needed money into Gaza's stricken economy.

Today, only a few thousand are estimated to still be actually working, mainly in the critical health and education sectors - the very workers who were targeted by the PA in this month's cuts.

Since the conflict between the two factions began, Hamas has meanwhile set up its own parallel administration with about 50,000 staff, whose salaries the PA refuses to pay.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

1. I did not say that "military control" was the same as "sovereignty." This is just an attempt to avoid the question.

2. You cannot have sovereignty over the territory for which you have no control. You cannot have a successful claim of sovereignty over another countries territorial control.

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Let's look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

(COMMENT)

Q4: What sovereignty do the Arab Palestinians claim?​

The reason you avoid answering these questions is because the answers themselves prove the Arab Palestinians have very little territory over which they might claim sovereignty.

✪ It is generally understood that the Arab Palestinians may NOT use or encourage the use of economic, political or any other type of measures to coerce aimed at Israel in order to obtain from it the subordination of the exercise of its sovereign rights or to secure from it advantages of any kind.

✪ It is generally understood that the Arab Palestinians may NOT organize, assist, foment, Finance, incite or tolerate subversive, terrorist or armed activities directed towards the violent overthrow of the Jewish National Home or the State of Israel.

✪ The use of Jihadists, Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Troublemakers, Adherents, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter to deprive the Jewish Peoples of their national identity constitutes a violation of their inalienable rights and of the principle of non-intervention.

✪ Nothing in the Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of Their Independence and Sovereignty (A/RES/20/2131) shall be construed as affecting in any manner Israels right of self-defense in the ongoing direct threats (from 1947 to the present) expressed by the Arab Palestinians. Israel may take whatever steps are necessary in the maintenance of territorial integrity and sovereignty, and to secure the safety of its citizenry.​

I find it rather charming for pro-Arab Palestinians to think that they have a right to improperly impose on the Israelis their sovereignty. And I find it quite impossible for anyone to believe that the Arab Palestinians can just verbally take control and impose their sovereignty over a territory for which they have no territorial integrity or control.

When HM the King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank, that this abandonment somehow left the territory to the Arab Palestinians when the Arab Palestinian had not yet declared independence and the Israelis had maintained control continuously from the 1967 Six-Day War to present.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine has been under military occupation for a hundred years. This has prevented them from exercising their right to sovereignty.

 

[Sixties Fan]

February 4, 2019 marked an important, albeit unheralded, date: the fiftieth anniversary of the ascension of Fatah in Palestinian politics. On Feb. 4, 1969, the movement’s founder, the Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat, was appointed chair of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). For most of the half century since, Fatah has dominated Palestinian affairs—with fateful consequences for the Middle East and beyond.

Arafat, his biographer Barry Rubin wrote, “succeeded at creating and remaining the leader of the globe’s longest-running revolutionary movement.” Yet both he and Fatah would also lead “his people into more disasters and defeats than any counterpart.”

It was a swift, but uneven, rise for both.

Arafat and about fifteen others founded Fatah on Oct. 10, 1959 in a private home in Kuwait. At the time, Arafat was an engineer working for Kuwait’s Department of Public Works. Most of his compatriots were young Palestinian students or workers employed in the country, which was then experiencing an oil boom and economic growth. They called themselves Harakat al-Tahrir al-Filastiniyya (Palestinian Liberation Movement), whose acronym reversed spells Fatah, which means “conquest.”

(full article online)

CAMERA Op-Ed: The Rise of Fatah, Fifty Years On

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

1. I did not say that "military control" was the same as "sovereignty." This is just an attempt to avoid the question.

2. You cannot have sovereignty over the territory for which you have no control. You cannot have a successful claim of sovereignty over another countries territorial control.

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Let's look at this another way!

Let's do something easy...

Q!: When (what dates) did the Jordanian have control of the West Bank?

Q2: When (what dates) did the Israelis have control of the West Bank?

Q3: When (what dates) did the Arab Palestinians have control of the West Bank?​

Most Respectfully,
R

Military control does not equal sovereignty. Occupations are military control.

(COMMENT)

Q4: What sovereignty do the Arab Palestinians claim?​

The reason you avoid answering these questions is because the answers themselves prove the Arab Palestinians have very little territory over which they might claim sovereignty.

✪ It is generally understood that the Arab Palestinians may NOT use or encourage the use of economic, political or any other type of measures to coerce aimed at Israel in order to obtain from it the subordination of the exercise of its sovereign rights or to secure from it advantages of any kind.

✪ It is generally understood that the Arab Palestinians may NOT organize, assist, foment, Finance, incite or tolerate subversive, terrorist or armed activities directed towards the violent overthrow of the Jewish National Home or the State of Israel.

✪ The use of Jihadists, Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Troublemakers, Adherents, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter to deprive the Jewish Peoples of their national identity constitutes a violation of their inalienable rights and of the principle of non-intervention.

✪ Nothing in the Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of Their Independence and Sovereignty (A/RES/20/2131) shall be construed as affecting in any manner Israels right of self-defense in the ongoing direct threats (from 1947 to the present) expressed by the Arab Palestinians. Israel may take whatever steps are necessary in the maintenance of territorial integrity and sovereignty, and to secure the safety of its citizenry.​

I find it rather charming for pro-Arab Palestinians to think that they have a right to improperly impose on the Israelis their sovereignty. And I find it quite impossible for anyone to believe that the Arab Palestinians can just verbally take control and impose their sovereignty over a territory for which they have no territorial integrity or control.

When HM the King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank, that this abandonment somehow left the territory to the Arab Palestinians when the Arab Palestinian had not yet declared independence and the Israelis had maintained control continuously from the 1967 Six-Day War to present.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine has been under military occupation for a hundred years. This has prevented them from exercising their right to sovereignty.

If we could arrange a four part harmony, I'd suggest we gather for a rousing chorus of "awww, those Poor, Oppressed Pal'istanians"

You've been duped. Not a one of the various islamic terrorists / islamic terrorist franchises which have, and still are, using and abusing the UNRWA welfare fraud has any interest in soverignty, establishing a civil government or managing the affairs of government.

What are Abbas or Islamic gee-had doing to further any effort toward establishing a viable, sovereign nation?

Shuffle off and find a YouTube video.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

AH, and here we circle back around to the question addressed in • Posting # 12523 •.

Palestine has been under military occupation for a hundred years. This has prevented them from exercising their right to sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians are demanding that Israel give up the control of the territory even in the face of very distinct threats of the use of force. And these are not idle threats. three times before, the Arab League banded together substantial forces and attempted a Regime Change by military invasion. And for the last half-century, the Arab Palestinians, through more than a half-dozen Jihadist, Insurgent, Radicalized Islamic Troublemakers, Adherent, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter organizations have launch attacks on commercial air flights, cruise ships, suicide bombing, direct attacks attacks in public places against unarmed civilians, launched thousands of rockets and mortars, kidnappings, murders visited upon women and children, etc etc, etc. The Arab Palestinians have openly threatened the lives of Israeli citizens and threaten to end the Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinians want the Israelis to drop their guard and allow the Arab Palestinian threat the freedom to take advantage of that freedom to mount yet another assault on the territorial integrity of Israel just because of a few words on paper about the "right to sovereignty." Now it would be damn foolish of the Israelis to think that the words on paper can protect the Israelis from the Arab Palestinians carrying-out their threats.

No, I don't think the Israelis are going to allow the conditions to exist that would permit yet another major confrontation to "Liberate Palestine" through the destruction of Israel. The Arab Palestinians have not set the conditions through deeds that would rationally set the conditions for a reduction in the suppression of these threats. The Arab Palestinians continue to extend, not the olive branch, but the sword.

At the end of the day, the lack of security operations that suppress the Arab Palestinian potential to pursue further danger to the State of Israel would be a dereliction of duty on the part of the Israeli Leadership.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What are the Palestinians asking Israel to give up?

You mean something OTHER than their very lives?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

AH, and here we circle back around to the question addressed in • Posting # 12523 •.

Palestine has been under military occupation for a hundred years. This has prevented them from exercising their right to sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians are demanding that Israel give up the control of the territory even in the face of very distinct threats of the use of force. And these are not idle threats. three times before, the Arab League banded together substantial forces and attempted a Regime Change by military invasion. And for the last half-century, the Arab Palestinians, through more than a half-dozen Jihadist, Insurgent, Radicalized Islamic Troublemakers, Adherent, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter organizations have launch attacks on commercial air flights, cruise ships, suicide bombing, direct attacks attacks in public places against unarmed civilians, launched thousands of rockets and mortars, kidnappings, murders visited upon women and children, etc etc, etc. The Arab Palestinians have openly threatened the lives of Israeli citizens and threaten to end the Jewish National Home.

The Arab Palestinians want the Israelis to drop their guard and allow the Arab Palestinian threat the freedom to take advantage of that freedom to mount yet another assault on the territorial integrity of Israel just because of a few words on paper about the "right to sovereignty." Now it would be damn foolish of the Israelis to think that the words on paper can protect the Israelis from the Arab Palestinians carrying-out their threats.

No, I don't think the Israelis are going to allow the conditions to exist that would permit yet another major confrontation to "Liberate Palestine" through the destruction of Israel. The Arab Palestinians have not set the conditions through deeds that would rationally set the conditions for a reduction in the suppression of these threats. The Arab Palestinians continue to extend, not the olive branch, but the sword.

At the end of the day, the lack of security operations that suppress the Arab Palestinian potential to pursue further danger to the State of Israel would be a dereliction of duty on the part of the Israeli Leadership.


Most Respectfully,
R

Israel must defend its occupation and settler colonial project.