Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.
 
Germany and Italy didn't exist as states or countries either.

Until when?

The idea of countries and nations is relatively recent.

Germany wasn't a country until 1871.

.

When did Palestine become a country?
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.
 
Germany and Italy didn't exist as states or countries either.

Until when?

The idea of countries and nations is relatively recent.

Germany wasn't a country until 1871.

.

When did Palestine become a country?

Palestine was never a country.. It was a province of Syria from 500 BC.
 
Germany and Italy didn't exist as states or countries either.

Until when?

The idea of countries and nations is relatively recent.

Germany wasn't a country until 1871.

.

When did Palestine become a country?

Palestine was never a country.. It was a province of Syria from 500 BC.

Palestine was never a country..

Good to know. So why are we worried about a nationality invented by that gay Egyptian terrorist?
 
Germany and Italy didn't exist as states or countries either.

Until when?

The idea of countries and nations is relatively recent.

Germany wasn't a country until 1871.

.

When did Palestine become a country?

Palestine was never a country.. It was a province of Syria from 500 BC.

Palestine was never a country..

Good to know. So why are we worried about a nationality invented by that gay Egyptian terrorist?

They were called Palestinians when I was a child... long before arafat.. circa 1950.. In fact, there were 50,000 in Saudi Arabia and many of them went to our church...
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.

I think it's important to understand the reasons for the Arabs-Moslems fleeing to Lebanon in 1948 and 1967. Wars of aggression by the Arab armies in both instances resulted in the need to escape the land / air war. The Arabs-Moslems seem to demand a 'do-over' after their failed wars of aggression with a presumption that losing a war carries no consequences.

As to Jewish immigrants looting refugee camps, I have no information on that but would not condone those actions if they took place.
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.

I think it's important to understand the reasons for the Arabs-Moslems fleeing to Lebanon in 1948 and 1967. Wars of aggression by the Arab armies in both instances resulted in the need to escape the land / air war. The Arabs-Moslems seem to demand a 'do-over' after their failed wars of aggression with a presumption that losing a war carries no consequences.

As to Jewish immigrants looting refugee camps, I have no information on that but would not condone those actions if they took place.


The Jewish immigrants began destroying Arab villages in late 1947 about the same time they firebombed the refinery in Haifa... I think November.. Israel has whole propaganda package for people like you.
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.

I think it's important to understand the reasons for the Arabs-Moslems fleeing to Lebanon in 1948 and 1967. Wars of aggression by the Arab armies in both instances resulted in the need to escape the land / air war. The Arabs-Moslems seem to demand a 'do-over' after their failed wars of aggression with a presumption that losing a war carries no consequences.

As to Jewish immigrants looting refugee camps, I have no information on that but would not condone those actions if they took place.


The Jewish immigrants began destroying Arab villages in late 1947 about the same time they firebombed the refinery in Haifa... I think November.. Israel has whole propaganda package for people like you.

There were attacks by Jews against Arabs-Moslems as well as Arab-Moslem attacks aimed at Jews during to timeframe you referenced and before / after.

It's not propaganda to recognize the truth and understand neither group is guiltless.
 
Germany and Italy didn't exist as states or countries either.

Until when?

The idea of countries and nations is relatively recent.

Germany wasn't a country until 1871.

.

When did Palestine become a country?

Palestine was never a country.. It was a province of Syria from 500 BC.

Palestine was never a country..

Good to know. So why are we worried about a nationality invented by that gay Egyptian terrorist?

They were called Palestinians when I was a child... long before arafat.. circa 1950.. In fact, there were 50,000 in Saudi Arabia and many of them went to our church...

They were called Palestinians when I was a child..

You just admitted, it was never a country.

In fact, there were 50,000 in Saudi Arabia and many of them went to our church...

Which church in Saudi Arabia?
 
Also, you ignored my earlier questions about what specifically are Palestine’s borders (east, west, north, south)
Palestine has international borders with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt as noted in the links I have posted many times and you never looked at.
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.

The Ottoman Empire had a land rights system. Those rights could be bought, sold, or inherited.

Nobody in Israel owns any land. It is all leased. Does that mean they have no rights?
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.

I think it's important to understand the reasons for the Arabs-Moslems fleeing to Lebanon in 1948 and 1967. Wars of aggression by the Arab armies in both instances resulted in the need to escape the land / air war. The Arabs-Moslems seem to demand a 'do-over' after their failed wars of aggression with a presumption that losing a war carries no consequences.

As to Jewish immigrants looting refugee camps, I have no information on that but would not condone those actions if they took place.

When did the Palestinians lose a war?

Links?
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.

I think it's important to understand the reasons for the Arabs-Moslems fleeing to Lebanon in 1948 and 1967. Wars of aggression by the Arab armies in both instances resulted in the need to escape the land / air war. The Arabs-Moslems seem to demand a 'do-over' after their failed wars of aggression with a presumption that losing a war carries no consequences.

As to Jewish immigrants looting refugee camps, I have no information on that but would not condone those actions if they took place.

When did the Palestinians lose a war?

Links?


When did they win a war?
 
The Myth Of Palestinian Arab Refugees Exposed

What a fruitcake. Why refugees leave is irrelevant.

Villagers attacked Israel while in their own villages.
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::290968001256257790-final:

Why 'refugees' (I believe you mean pre-refugees or 'refugees to be named a later date' or 'refugees to be named after the Arab armies told the, 'shoo, so we can begin our Jew killing') is certainly relevant.

When you whine about 'their villages', it's important to be accurate and identify that land occupied by Arabs-Moslems was formerly Turkish controlled territory. The Turks released all rights and title to the British Mandatory.

We further know that majority landowners under the Ottoman Turks were absentee landowners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

How do we know this? Well, the Turkish government released Ottoman land records.


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.


The demographics of Lebanon were turned upside down in 1948 and again in 1967 by all the Palestinians driven out of Palestine. I remember the refugee camps outside of Beirut in 1951-1953-4.. The Jewish immigrants looted and leveled over 300 arab villages from 1947-1949.. and they destroyed another 65 arab villages in the Golan Heights in 1967.

Before statehood. the Jews had bought 6% of the land in Palestine. The rest they took.

I think it's important to understand the reasons for the Arabs-Moslems fleeing to Lebanon in 1948 and 1967. Wars of aggression by the Arab armies in both instances resulted in the need to escape the land / air war. The Arabs-Moslems seem to demand a 'do-over' after their failed wars of aggression with a presumption that losing a war carries no consequences.

As to Jewish immigrants looting refugee camps, I have no information on that but would not condone those actions if they took place.

When did the Palestinians lose a war?

Links?


When did they win a war?

Deflection.
 
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