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Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.clueless, completely clueless. you won't ever know economics friend. The real solution is to find a career job that pays more than 15 an hour. It is simple economics go to the jobs that pay the money to rise out of poverty. government forcing only ends up with higher cost products for supply and demand.Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.
Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
The Dems need total control, filibuster proof, to do anything. The GOP has no clue about compromise for 30 years now. The "no-compromise, un-American TP GOP
Like I keep repeating; why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about economics or the law.so go find a career job paying 15 dollars an hour. Doing what you said on the minimum wage salary doesn't. And it's been explained. your poverty line then would move to 25 dollars an hour. Then you'd be crying to make the minimum wage 25 dollars an hour and then the poverty level would rise to 25 dollars an hour. get it yet?Poverty line is much lower than $15/hour, dingbat dupe.clueless, completely clueless. you won't ever know economics friend. The real solution is to find a career job that pays more than 15 an hour. It is simple economics go to the jobs that pay the money to rise out of poverty. government forcing only ends up with higher cost products for supply and demand.Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.
Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
Why is there any homelessness at all, especially in Right to Work States, if it is so easy to find a better job with better pay?so go find a career job paying 15 dollars an hour. Doing what you said on the minimum wage salary doesn't. And it's been explained. your poverty line then would move to 25 dollars an hour. Then you'd be crying to make the minimum wage 25 dollars an hour and then the poverty level would rise to 25 dollars an hour. get it yet?Poverty line is much lower than $15/hour, dingbat dupe.clueless, completely clueless. you won't ever know economics friend. The real solution is to find a career job that pays more than 15 an hour. It is simple economics go to the jobs that pay the money to rise out of poverty. government forcing only ends up with higher cost products for supply and demand.Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.
Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
Don't swallow the crap that the rich pay so much. After 30 years of New BS GOP tax policy, we basically have a flat tax system for everyone over the poverty line.Dear, don't blame the poor for being better at tax avoidance.how is it any different than someone working? You continue to avoid an answer smart guy. Well Poindexter, what say you?just right wing, "hate on the poor", and "blame the left"?well we can take their money away and they can keep their avoidance.Dear, don't blame the poor for being better at tax avoidance.Silly liberal and goofy of course the guy who makes $4 million a year may pay $1 million in taxes while the guy who makes $40,000 a year May pay a measly $3000. Why should one guy pay millions of dollars and another guy pay next to nothing. Should a rich guy have to pay a higher price for a car too.why do only the rich have to pay for government while everyone else gets a virtual free ride. America was not founded it to be a nation of leechers and takers.
the right wing doesn't have any facts; fantasy inducing fallacy, is all they usually have.facts are always telling signs.
right wing fantasy is all you have. why not post links?fifty years and there's been zip improvement except in the 90s with the GOP contract. oops, the GOP did it. you all failed it.To invest in the nonrich and infrastructure like the good old days before pander to the rich and baffle the chumps Reaganism, dupe.for the purpose of what?They need a big tax hike, like Dems want to do.Why do one percenters, need a tax break?The hell they are- we have basically a flat tax system, with ANOTHER cut for the rich coming.
By Ezra Klein September 19, 2012 Washington Post
At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.
This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.
There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.
But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."
Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.
Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.
That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?
Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:
according to the right wing, the poor don't pay any taxes. why not become poor, so you can avoid paying any taxes, better?the majority of the country pays 50% into some tax. Again, you don't think that's enough? how much should we all pay in? come now.If you ignore every tax and fee except the fed income tax, the only progressive (barely) tax we have, and all dupes like you can talk about lol.and the poor guy still paid zero%And next year he'd pay 8% after alt tax is repealed per his plan. Great job!I believe Trump paid 28%?How much did Mr. Trump pay in personal income taxes?
Why is it the poor's fault, the one percent are lousy at tax avoidance, and want tax breaks?
dear, it is about privatizing costs, not socializing costs. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps do that.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.The Dems need total control, filibuster proof, to do anything. The GOP has no clue about compromise for 30 years now. The "no-compromise, un-American TP GOP" (TIME). All they have for dupes is bs propaganda and hate- seems to be plenty for you...It hasn't raised the poor out of poverty. The Democrats have held either the House or the Senate in 60 of the last 84 years and the Presidency the majority of those years and have not developed one program to move the poor to the middle class, in fact under Obama, we have had more fall into a poor state and are relying on government subsidies than ever before.
The Great Society did a lot for a few years, and of course FDR and SS and UE have done wonders. Most elderly used to be poor, dupe.
And you have not showed me a bill that the Democrats introduced to help the poor out of poverty.
You have been had, silly dupe.
No, no it doesn't. That keeps up with inflation, no one gets out of poverty at $15 an hour. Also that isn't a federal bill that was introduced. Nice try, you got anything else?
learned how fish, did you, right wing fishmonger? Red herrings are all you have; how much is that worth, in the non-porn sector.Why does a one percenter, need a tax break?
If you confiscated all the wealth of all your hated 1% ers, how much would that reduce the National Debt run up by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama?
Why does the right wing claim, the one percent need a tax break, when we already have massive debt?Don't swallow the crap that the rich pay so much. After 30 years of New BS GOP tax policy, we basically have a flat tax system for everyone over the poverty line.Dear, don't blame the poor for being better at tax avoidance.how is it any different than someone working? You continue to avoid an answer smart guy. Well Poindexter, what say you?just right wing, "hate on the poor", and "blame the left"?well we can take their money away and they can keep their avoidance.Dear, don't blame the poor for being better at tax avoidance.
I did. go back and look.right wing fantasy is all you have. why not post links?fifty years and there's been zip improvement except in the 90s with the GOP contract. oops, the GOP did it. you all failed it.To invest in the nonrich and infrastructure like the good old days before pander to the rich and baffle the chumps Reaganism, dupe.for the purpose of what?They need a big tax hike, like Dems want to do.Why do one percenters, need a tax break?
I think he means a living wage or 15/hr makes it worthwhile to get off social services, while 7 or 8 or even 9 doesn't...tho don't start- being on welfare is a full time pain in the ass. Certainly having ACA Medicaid or subsidies for poorer workers keeps many off welfare too...Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.
Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
WTF is the cost of social services? What does that even mean?
What are privatized costs and social costs, and what does that have to do with $15.00 per hour?????
Yes, it does; much better than a lesser minimum wage under Any form of Capitalism.dear, it is about privatizing costs, not socializing costs. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps do that.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.The Dems need total control, filibuster proof, to do anything. The GOP has no clue about compromise for 30 years now. The "no-compromise, un-American TP GOP" (TIME). All they have for dupes is bs propaganda and hate- seems to be plenty for you...
The Great Society did a lot for a few years, and of course FDR and SS and UE have done wonders. Most elderly used to be poor, dupe.
And you have not showed me a bill that the Democrats introduced to help the poor out of poverty.
You have been had, silly dupe.
No, no it doesn't. That keeps up with inflation, no one gets out of poverty at $15 an hour. Also that isn't a federal bill that was introduced. Nice try, you got anything else?
A $15 hour wage does not lift one out of poverty, no you are wanting to move the goal posts. I am asking for one bill that lifts the poor out of poverty by Congressional Democrats, that you can't find one is not surprising at all. Thanks for trying and thanks for proving my point.
cause you don't know how revenue comes in. It's a simple little thingy as well. the more paying in, the more dollars you get. Not sure why it is so hard for you to understand that.Why does the right wing claim, the one percent need a tax break, when we already have massive debt?Don't swallow the crap that the rich pay so much. After 30 years of New BS GOP tax policy, we basically have a flat tax system for everyone over the poverty line.Dear, don't blame the poor for being better at tax avoidance.how is it any different than someone working? You continue to avoid an answer smart guy. Well Poindexter, what say you?just right wing, "hate on the poor", and "blame the left"?well we can take their money away and they can keep their avoidance.
then all one has to do is look for a job that pays that much. Why is that so hard for you stoops to figure out?I think he means a living wage or 15/hr makes it worthwhile to get off social services, while 7 or 8 or even 9 doesn't...tho don't start- being on welfare is a full time pain in the ass. Certainly having ACA Medicaid or subsidies for poorer workers keeps many off welfare too...Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.
Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
WTF is the cost of social services? What does that even mean?
What are privatized costs and social costs, and what does that have to do with $15.00 per hour?????
I enjoy my life. I don't have to wait in line to get a dollar. I enjoy challenges in life. I'm competitive.according to the right wing, the poor don't pay any taxes. why not become poor, so you can avoid paying any taxes, better?the majority of the country pays 50% into some tax. Again, you don't think that's enough? how much should we all pay in? come now.If you ignore every tax and fee except the fed income tax, the only progressive (barely) tax we have, and all dupes like you can talk about lol.and the poor guy still paid zero%And next year he'd pay 8% after alt tax is repealed per his plan. Great job!I believe Trump paid 28%?
Actually, 35 years of Reaganism and the slow ruin of the nonrich and the country....I did. go back and look.right wing fantasy is all you have. why not post links?fifty years and there's been zip improvement except in the 90s with the GOP contract. oops, the GOP did it. you all failed it.To invest in the nonrich and infrastructure like the good old days before pander to the rich and baffle the chumps Reaganism, dupe.for the purpose of what?They need a big tax hike, like Dems want to do.
It's a whole class and the whole country going to hell under your greedy idiot party policies. Ever heard of the big picture? That's politics, not your moronic GOP talking points, dupe.then all one has to do is look for a job that pays that much. Why is that so hard for you stoops to figure out?I think he means a living wage or 15/hr makes it worthwhile to get off social services, while 7 or 8 or even 9 doesn't...tho don't start- being on welfare is a full time pain in the ass. Certainly having ACA Medicaid or subsidies for poorer workers keeps many off welfare too...Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, helps the working poor out of poverty.
Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
WTF is the cost of social services? What does that even mean?
What are privatized costs and social costs, and what does that have to do with $15.00 per hour?????
the big picture? you have no idea where the picture is.It's a whole class and the whole country going to hell under your greedy idiot party policies. Ever heard of the big picture? That's politics, not your moronic GOP talking points, dupe.then all one has to do is look for a job that pays that much. Why is that so hard for you stoops to figure out?I think he means a living wage or 15/hr makes it worthwhile to get off social services, while 7 or 8 or even 9 doesn't...tho don't start- being on welfare is a full time pain in the ass. Certainly having ACA Medicaid or subsidies for poorer workers keeps many off welfare too...Yes, it will. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services. And, helps privatize costs instead of socialize costs.Not at all.
The minimum wage is a trigger in many contracts. Doubling the minimum wage would necessarily double the wage of someone already earning $15.00 per hour to $30.00.
The end result will be that the nine of the ten order takers at the fast food restaurant will be replaced by one technician earning $40.00 per hour to maintain the ten kiosks which now eliminate nine jobs and they would still have two janitors earning the minimum wage of $15.00
The end result, the two janitors are still living in poverty, there are simply fewer jobs available to young people getting their first jobs and gaining valuable work experience.
That's okay, we're heading in that direction today so might as well get them out of work early!
Dear, nobody should take the right wing seriously about price inflation.
WTF is the cost of social services? What does that even mean?
What are privatized costs and social costs, and what does that have to do with $15.00 per hour?????
