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One thing that has always irked me about Christianity is it's binary nature. It's all about good vs. evil. I've never met anyone who was only good or only evil, even Hitler loved his dog. I've certainly met people I've judged to be better or worse than the average but it seems bizarre that God would draw some arbitrary line along the human spectrum and say this side goes to heaven, that side goes to hell.
It is even more bizarre to me that Christianity says that you only have to repent on your death bed and you'll get a pass for a lifetime of evil. You can live your whole life as a good Christian but if you waver for one day and get hit by a bus, you're off to hell.
How is this system just?
what's arbitrary about "refuses to believe I exist" versus "Chooses to believe in me".....
It's arbitrary because both groups can be made up of good people that have empathy for their fellow human beings and do their part to make the world a better place. Does Ghandi deserve to burn in Hell? Does Carl Sagan? I could keep going but my point has been made.
One thing that has always irked me about Christianity is it's binary nature. It's all about good vs. evil. I've never met anyone who was only good or only evil, even Hitler loved his dog. I've certainly met people I've judged to be better or worse than the average but it seems bizarre that God would draw some arbitrary line along the human spectrum and say this side goes to heaven, that side goes to hell.
It is even more bizarre to me that Christianity says that you only have to repent on your death bed and you'll get a pass for a lifetime of evil. You can live your whole life as a good Christian but if you waver for one day and get hit by a bus, you're off to hell.
How is this system just?
what's arbitrary about "refuses to believe I exist" versus "Chooses to believe in me".....
God has chosen one sin from among the infinite sins man is guilty of. And which one did he choose? Murder? Rape? Child abuse? When stacked up against those others it seems petty and arbitrary to me.
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what's arbitrary about "refuses to believe I exist" versus "Chooses to believe in me".....
God has chosen one sin from among the infinite sins man is guilty of. And which one did he choose? Murder? Rape? Child abuse? When stacked up against those others it seems petty and arbitrary to me.
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it is the ultimate disobedience......which would your mom have considered the worst thing you could do.....steal cookies out of the cookie jar?......kill the family cat?.....turn away from her as if she didn't exist and never speak to her again for the rest of her life?.....
it is the ultimate disobedience......which would your mom have considered the worst thing you could do.....steal cookies out of the cookie jar?......kill the family cat?.....turn away from her as if she didn't exist and never speak to her again for the rest of her life?.....
it is the ultimate disobedience......which would your mom have considered the worst thing you could do.....steal cookies out of the cookie jar?......kill the family cat?.....turn away from her as if she didn't exist and never speak to her again for the rest of her life?.....
Is God like Mommy Dearest? I can't imagine telling my kids, you will love me unconditionally, no matter how much undeserved suffering I inflict on you, or I will make the rest of your life miserable. That's love?
neither of you could answer the question?.....I didn't think it was that hard....
neither of you could answer the question?.....I didn't think it was that hard....
neither of you could answer the question?.....I didn't think it was that hard....
I thought I had but my mother, and most parents I believe, want their kids to be happy. They also want them to find a spouse and raise a family, do good for others and generally make them proud. They would love to be loved but that's not their primary goal.
neither of you could answer the question?.....I didn't think it was that hard....
I thought I had but my mother, and most parents I believe, want their kids to be happy. They also want them to find a spouse and raise a family, do good for others and generally make them proud. They would love to be loved but that's not their primary goal.
Ever feel like you are talking to a wall!? Nothing gets in.
I can't even get past the basic definitions of words with this guy.
Also, I agree with you. If my children, for whatever reason, decided to never speak to me again, I would still want them to be happy and have the best life they can.
I thought I had but my mother, and most parents I believe, want their kids to be happy. They also want them to find a spouse and raise a family, do good for others and generally make them proud. They would love to be loved but that's not their primary goal.
Ever feel like you are talking to a wall!? Nothing gets in.
I can't even get past the basic definitions of words with this guy.
Also, I agree with you. If my children, for whatever reason, decided to never speak to me again, I would still want them to be happy and have the best life they can.
You mean you wouldn't douse them with gasoline and throw a match?
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I thought I had but my mother, and most parents I believe, want their kids to be happy. They also want them to find a spouse and raise a family, do good for others and generally make them proud. They would love to be loved but that's not their primary goal.
Ever feel like you are talking to a wall!? Nothing gets in.
I can't even get past the basic definitions of words with this guy.
Also, I agree with you. If my children, for whatever reason, decided to never speak to me again, I would still want them to be happy and have the best life they can.
You mean you wouldn't douse them with gasoline and throw a match?
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neither of you could answer the question?.....I didn't think it was that hard....
You're comparing apples to oranges. Get an equal comparison, and I'll answer your question.
Ever feel like you are talking to a wall!? Nothing gets in.
I can't even get past the basic definitions of words with this guy.
Also, I agree with you. If my children, for whatever reason, decided to never speak to me again, I would still want them to be happy and have the best life they can.
You mean you wouldn't douse them with gasoline and throw a match?
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And do it again and again and again and again... For all eternity. That will show them how much I love them..
One thing that has always irked me about Christianity is it's binary nature. It's all about good vs. evil ...
It's arbitrary because both groups can be made up of good people that have empathy for their fellow human beings and do their part to make the world a better place. Does Ghandi deserve to burn in Hell? Does Carl Sagan? I could keep going but my point has been made.
I can't even get past the basic definitions of words with this guy.
neither of you could answer the question?.....I didn't think it was that hard....
You're comparing apples to oranges. Get an equal comparison, and I'll answer your question.
equal to your standards.....so would that be like, God letting unbelievers go to hell is like Santa Claus putting coal in your stocking?......
All you can do is believe or not.
All you can do is believe or not.
and that's all you have to do........if you decide not to, don't expect to be on his Christmas list.....
You're comparing apples to oranges. Get an equal comparison, and I'll answer your question.
equal to your standards.....so would that be like, God letting unbelievers go to hell is like Santa Claus putting coal in your stocking?......
Yes, we don't believe either one of those people exist.
