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Typical revisionist crap. Not to mention tossing in the totally unrelated and sociologically uninformed bull shit poll about the Russian mindset. Do you have about 2 years to take the classes and read some of the source material I had the opportunity to study? I think I might be able to condense 10 + years of study into the time allotted as long as I can keep it at your grade school level.
Who the hell said slavery was a good thing?
WTF?????????
Rabbi and BigRebNC, apparently. Who knew?
You are a fucking liar, I have never said slavry was a good thing. You on the other hand seem to think slaves were beat on a daily bases, which would be incoorect. Since yoiu like using images to prove your point I am still waiting on more images from you where slaves had whip marks on their back. With over 4 million slaves should should be able to find a boat load of images.
And that the Bible says its ok. Any clown with half a brain knows that anything can be taken out of context from any book on the planet to back your point of view. This pseudo intellectual knows all about using other peoples words.
And that the Bible says its ok. Any clown with half a brain knows that anything can be taken out of context from any book on the planet to back your point of view. This pseudo intellectual knows all about using other peoples words.
Exodus 21:2
If thou buy an Hebrew servant....
Exodus 21:7
If a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant....
Exodus 21:20-21
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
Exodus 22:3
If he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Leviticus 22:11
If the priest buy any soul with his money....
Leviticus 25:39
And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee....
Leviticus 25:44-46
Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever.
Ephesians 6:5
Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ.
Colossians 3:22
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.
1 Timothy 6:1
Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:9-10
Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
1 Peter 2:18
Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
Sorry to Google Foo you, man, but you really aren't worth the time for anything else.
Uh, guy, most stories about Stalin Purges are Cold War propaganda. Not to say Stalin wans't a prick because he was. But talk to Russians about Stalin. A recent poll found him to be the third most admired figure in Russian History.
Rabbi and BigRebNC, apparently. Who knew?
You are a fucking liar, I have never said slavry was a good thing. You on the other hand seem to think slaves were beat on a daily bases, which would be incoorect. Since yoiu like using images to prove your point I am still waiting on more images from you where slaves had whip marks on their back. With over 4 million slaves should should be able to find a boat load of images.
Given that photography was a difficult and expensive process prior to 1860 or so, not really.
And given the other crazy stuff you've said, like it was the fault of that father of the little girl who got shot for not protecting her, not idiotic laws that let crazy people buy guns, arguing with you is kind of a useless excercise.
Rabbi and BigRebNC, apparently. Who knew?
You are a fucking liar, I have never said slavry was a good thing. You on the other hand seem to think slaves were beat on a daily bases, which would be incoorect. Since yoiu like using images to prove your point I am still waiting on more images from you where slaves had whip marks on their back. With over 4 million slaves should should be able to find a boat load of images.
Given that photography was a difficult and expensive process prior to 1860 or so, not really.
And given the other crazy stuff you've said, like it was the fault of that father of the little girl who got shot for not protecting her, not idiotic laws that let crazy people buy guns, arguing with you is kind of a useless excercise.
It's not revisionist propaganda.
The reason why Russians rate him highly is because they aren't - or weren't - taught about his crimes. I have good friends who were born and raised in Russia who emigrated to America over the past decade, and I've brought this subject up with them. They were never taught that Stalin did bad things. That's why he his highly thought of.
Whatever guy... Usually if I bother to respond to you, it's because you've said something dumb I can mock. Otherwise I'm kind of ignoring you as a sad, lonely guy looking for attention.
OH SHIT COME ON THE ABOLISTIONIST WOULD HAVE IT DONE IF JUST FOR PROPANDA
I am sure you can produce some other than your uncle tom teaching. Oh and Stowe never went south to see for herself before she wrote uncle toms cabin.
Uh, guy, most stories about Stalin Purges are Cold War propaganda. Not to say Stalin wans't a prick because he was. But talk to Russians about Stalin. A recent poll found him to be the third most admired figure in Russian History.
.
It's not revisionist propaganda.
The reason why Russians rate him highly is because they aren't - or weren't - taught about his crimes. I have good friends who were born and raised in Russia who emigrated to America over the past decade, and I've brought this subject up with them. They were never taught that Stalin did bad things. That's why he his highly thought of.
I think they are exagerated, and a lot of the stuff you heard came out after Stalin stopped being our buddy.
A lot of people aren't taught about the bad parts of their history, including ours. The fact we have two people on this thread trying to claim slavery wasn't all that bad should be proof of that.
My sister-in-law, a fine product of Public Education, never heard of the Holocaust, had no idea something like this happened. I work with a Japanese gal who really didn't learn about the awful stuff her country did in WWII.
Now, I think Stalin did horrible things, some intentionally, others by his sheer ineptitude. (For instance, purging the Russian Officer Corps and having no good leaders when Hitler invaded.)
But I think it's a little too pat when the religionists are confronted with witchburnings, crusades, holy wars, torture of heretics, etc and their go-to response was "Evil Dictator X was an atheist, so Atheism must be bad, too!"
You are a fucking liar, I have never said slavry was a good thing. You on the other hand seem to think slaves were beat on a daily bases, which would be incoorect. Since yoiu like using images to prove your point I am still waiting on more images from you where slaves had whip marks on their back. With over 4 million slaves should should be able to find a boat load of images.
Given that photography was a difficult and expensive process prior to 1860 or so, not really.
And given the other crazy stuff you've said, like it was the fault of that father of the little girl who got shot for not protecting her, not idiotic laws that let crazy people buy guns, arguing with you is kind of a useless excercise.
Yeah Ol' Reb gave me a laugh with that too. What? Does he think one of the slaves whipped out their cell phone and snapped off a few shots? A video mabye? Then uploaded it to YeOldeYouTube.com? LOL
So since there are not a lot of photos, slaves were never whipped? And lemme guess: George Washington never abused his slaves!
Jeez you'd have to have a Confederate flag hanging somewhere to be that stup... oh wait.
Jeez you'd have to have a Confederate flag hanging somewhere to be that stup... oh wait.
Uh, guy, most stories about Stalin Purges are Cold War propaganda. Not to say Stalin wans't a prick because he was. But talk to Russians about Stalin. A recent poll found him to be the third most admired figure in Russian History.
.
my grandfather fought in the russian revolution. he then came to this country because it was a nightmare after. and anyone who knows anything about history would never claim that stalin's purges were propaganda. also, living in a neighborhood with a large russian population, i'd say the older the russian immigrant, the more hard feelings they have toward stalin because they remember or were closer to the events.
finally, russians love totalitarian leaders. they really do. so of course he's popular.
OH SHIT COME ON THE ABOLISTIONIST WOULD HAVE IT DONE IF JUST FOR PROPANDA
I am sure you can produce some other than your uncle tom teaching. Oh and Stowe never went south to see for herself before she wrote uncle toms cabin.
NIce to see that got that internet connection on Bizarro World, NC.
It's not revisionist propaganda.
The reason why Russians rate him highly is because they aren't - or weren't - taught about his crimes. I have good friends who were born and raised in Russia who emigrated to America over the past decade, and I've brought this subject up with them. They were never taught that Stalin did bad things. That's why he his highly thought of.
I think they are exagerated, and a lot of the stuff you heard came out after Stalin stopped being our buddy.
A lot of people aren't taught about the bad parts of their history, including ours. The fact we have two people on this thread trying to claim slavery wasn't all that bad should be proof of that.
My sister-in-law, a fine product of Public Education, never heard of the Holocaust, had no idea something like this happened. I work with a Japanese gal who really didn't learn about the awful stuff her country did in WWII.
Now, I think Stalin did horrible things, some intentionally, others by his sheer ineptitude. (For instance, purging the Russian Officer Corps and having no good leaders when Hitler invaded.)
But I think it's a little too pat when the religionists are confronted with witchburnings, crusades, holy wars, torture of heretics, etc and their go-to response was "Evil Dictator X was an atheist, so Atheism must be bad, too!"
Uh, guy, most stories about Stalin Purges are Cold War propaganda. Not to say Stalin wans't a prick because he was. But talk to Russians about Stalin. A recent poll found him to be the third most admired figure in Russian History.
.
my grandfather fought in the russian revolution. he then came to this country because it was a nightmare after. and anyone who knows anything about history would never claim that stalin's purges were propaganda. also, living in a neighborhood with a large russian population, i'd say the older the russian immigrant, the more hard feelings they have toward stalin because they remember or were closer to the events.
finally, russians love totalitarian leaders. they really do. so of course he's popular.
I don't want to be in a position where I'm defending Stalin, so I will emphasize again.
Stalin was an evil prick.
And his policies screwed up the place massively.
But of course, emigrees are going to have a worse opinion than those who stayed.
My point is that religious types love to dump on Stalin because he's the evil atheist who counters all the evil religious people throughout history. Ironically, he was probably such a prick because Communism was almost like a religion to him. Communism had cults of perosnality, dogma and eventually schisms over who the true believers were. Lenin's body was perserved like a Holy Relic. The apple didn't fall that far from the tree.
And that the Bible says its ok. Any clown with half a brain knows that anything can be taken out of context from any book on the planet to back your point of view. This pseudo intellectual knows all about using other peoples words.
Exodus 21:2
If thou buy an Hebrew servant....
Exodus 21:7
If a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant....
Exodus 21:20-21
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
Exodus 22:3
If he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Leviticus 22:11
If the priest buy any soul with his money....
Leviticus 25:39
And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee....
Leviticus 25:44-46
Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever.
Ephesians 6:5
Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ.
Colossians 3:22
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.
1 Timothy 6:1
Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:9-10
Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
1 Peter 2:18
Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
Sorry to Google Foo you, man, but you really aren't worth the time for anything else.
It's not revisionist propaganda.
The reason why Russians rate him highly is because they aren't - or weren't - taught about his crimes. I have good friends who were born and raised in Russia who emigrated to America over the past decade, and I've brought this subject up with them. They were never taught that Stalin did bad things. That's why he his highly thought of.
I think they are exagerated, and a lot of the stuff you heard came out after Stalin stopped being our buddy.
A lot of people aren't taught about the bad parts of their history, including ours. The fact we have two people on this thread trying to claim slavery wasn't all that bad should be proof of that.
My sister-in-law, a fine product of Public Education, never heard of the Holocaust, had no idea something like this happened. I work with a Japanese gal who really didn't learn about the awful stuff her country did in WWII.
Now, I think Stalin did horrible things, some intentionally, others by his sheer ineptitude. (For instance, purging the Russian Officer Corps and having no good leaders when Hitler invaded.)
But I think it's a little too pat when the religionists are confronted with witchburnings, crusades, holy wars, torture of heretics, etc and their go-to response was "Evil Dictator X was an atheist, so Atheism must be bad, too!"
Your sister never heard of the Holocaust?????
