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Why Trump is after NATO...only 5 countries out of 27 members are meeting their pledge!
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- Feb 22, 2017
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I see on MSNBC that they're claiming that Trump is doing "exactly what Putin wants" with NATO! Uh, okay. So Putin wants Trump to pressure NATO nations to pay more for defense??? Trump wants NATO nations to raise their defense spending to 4 percent of GDP. Putin wants this???!!!
The NATO treaty requires NATO members to pay 2% of GDP for defense. Most NATO nations are not meeting that obligation. Germany only spends 1.2 percent of GDP for defense. England pays 1.8 percent of GDP for defense. France spends 1.8 percent of GDP for defense, although France recently agreed to boost defense spending. Italy spends 1.5 percent of GDP for defense. Trump wants them to boost defense spending to 4 percent.
What is Germany doing signing a multibillion-dollar oil pipeline deal with Russia and hurting our ally Ukraine in the process? And, as the Guardian newspaper has noted, Trump is not the only one to raise questions about the pipeline deal.
Trump Was Right: NATO Is Obsolete
Of Course NATO is Obsolete
Trump is right: It's time to rethink NATO
Of course they do, more money spent on "defense" is money not spent on things that actually help an economy. Remember, it was defense spending that killed the USSR.
You people are morons if you think that Putin wants to invade Europe.
Personally I hope the whole group tells Trump to shove it up his ass.
Bottom line only 5 members are paying their fair share. Estonia, Poland and Greece are meeting their financial obligations over Canada for example. The group can tell Trump to shove it and while staying in the agreement, he can cut back the USA share by a humongous amount.
America pays 3.61 of the GDP. Removing 1.61 cuts NATO's throat.
I am good with that, NATO is a relic of days gone by and is about as useful as tits on a boar.
tinydancer
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I see on MSNBC that they're claiming that Trump is doing "exactly what Putin wants" with NATO! Uh, okay. So Putin wants Trump to pressure NATO nations to pay more for defense??? Trump wants NATO nations to raise their defense spending to 4 percent of GDP. Putin wants this???!!!
The NATO treaty requires NATO members to pay 2% of GDP for defense. Most NATO nations are not meeting that obligation. Germany only spends 1.2 percent of GDP for defense. England pays 1.8 percent of GDP for defense. France spends 1.8 percent of GDP for defense, although France recently agreed to boost defense spending. Italy spends 1.5 percent of GDP for defense. Trump wants them to boost defense spending to 4 percent.
What is Germany doing signing a multibillion-dollar oil pipeline deal with Russia and hurting our ally Ukraine in the process? And, as the Guardian newspaper has noted, Trump is not the only one to raise questions about the pipeline deal.
Trump Was Right: NATO Is Obsolete
Of Course NATO is Obsolete
Trump is right: It's time to rethink NATO
The nazis in Kiev are always freaking whining. They're not going to get hurt by Nord Stream 2.
Germany proposes consortium to protect Ukraine from Nord Stream losses
Andrius Sytas
3 Min Read
German foreign minister Heiko Maas made the proposal, without giving details, during a meeting on Friday with his counterparts from Baltic countries, which oppose the pipeline.
Germany has backed Nord Stream 2, which will run from Russia to Germany through the Baltic Sea, but Chancellor Angela Merkel said last month that the project cannot go ahead without clarity on Ukraine’s role as a transit route for gas.
Germany proposes consortium to protect Ukraine from Nord Stream losses
TheProgressivePatriot
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Thank you for admitting that T-Rump is indeed derangedLol, trump derangement syndrome is alive and well.
tinydancer
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I see on MSNBC that they're claiming that Trump is doing "exactly what Putin wants" with NATO! Uh, okay. So Putin wants Trump to pressure NATO nations to pay more for defense??? Trump wants NATO nations to raise their defense spending to 4 percent of GDP. Putin wants this???!!!
The NATO treaty requires NATO members to pay 2% of GDP for defense. Most NATO nations are not meeting that obligation. Germany only spends 1.2 percent of GDP for defense. England pays 1.8 percent of GDP for defense. France spends 1.8 percent of GDP for defense, although France recently agreed to boost defense spending. Italy spends 1.5 percent of GDP for defense. Trump wants them to boost defense spending to 4 percent.
What is Germany doing signing a multibillion-dollar oil pipeline deal with Russia and hurting our ally Ukraine in the process? And, as the Guardian newspaper has noted, Trump is not the only one to raise questions about the pipeline deal.
Trump Was Right: NATO Is Obsolete
Of Course NATO is Obsolete
Trump is right: It's time to rethink NATO
Of course they do, more money spent on "defense" is money not spent on things that actually help an economy. Remember, it was defense spending that killed the USSR.
You people are morons if you think that Putin wants to invade Europe.
Personally I hope the whole group tells Trump to shove it up his ass.
Bottom line only 5 members are paying their fair share. Estonia, Poland and Greece are meeting their financial obligations over Canada for example. The group can tell Trump to shove it and while staying in the agreement, he can cut back the USA share by a humongous amount.
America pays 3.61 of the GDP. Removing 1.61 cuts NATO's throat.
I am good with that, NATO is a relic of days gone by and is about as useful as tits on a boar.
I'm with you on that. I believe the US blows over 300 billion a year on NATO. I'll get the exact amount and a link.
tinydancer
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Whoa way more than I thought. And this begs the question what the hell does the US get for 650 billion a year?
These NATO countries are not spending their fair share on defense
These NATO countries are not spending their fair share on defense
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- Feb 22, 2017
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That is not how much we spend on NATO that is our total defense budget
My hope is that everyone will look at that chart and instead of going they don’t spend enough, say holy crap we spend too much
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nat4900
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Easily the worst piece of trash I've read here in weeks....I'd report you for being crazy as a shithouse rat but the mods probably enjoy laughing at your commie crap....you're like a bad car wreck that people notice but don't look at for more than a minute or two. There are 29, not 30 countries in NATO and it goes downhill from there.
Mr. fuckhead,,,,,,,First, let me clearly state that the mods are on your side anyway and they only keep some of us around (the sane ones) so that this forum does not become a circle-jerk where you idiots FIGHT about who sniffs Trump's ass more.
Secondly, for you and other ignorant morons.....Japan is NATO's longest-standing global partner.....and soon either Ireland, Cyprus.or Malta will be the 30th partner.
Thank me later for the fucking lesson, HornyTom........LOL
ABikerSailor
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I see on MSNBC that they're claiming that Trump is doing "exactly what Putin wants" with NATO! Uh, okay. So Putin wants Trump to pressure NATO nations to pay more for defense??? Trump wants NATO nations to raise their defense spending to 4 percent of GDP. Putin wants this???!!!
The NATO treaty requires NATO members to pay 2% of GDP for defense. Most NATO nations are not meeting that obligation. Germany only spends 1.2 percent of GDP for defense. England pays 1.8 percent of GDP for defense. France spends 1.8 percent of GDP for defense, although France recently agreed to boost defense spending. Italy spends 1.5 percent of GDP for defense. Trump wants them to boost defense spending to 4 percent.
What is Germany doing signing a multibillion-dollar oil pipeline deal with Russia and hurting our ally Ukraine in the process? And, as the Guardian newspaper has noted, Trump is not the only one to raise questions about the pipeline deal.
Trump Was Right: NATO Is Obsolete
Of Course NATO is Obsolete
Trump is right: It's time to rethink NATO
Of course they do, more money spent on "defense" is money not spent on things that actually help an economy. Remember, it was defense spending that killed the USSR.
You people are morons if you think that Putin wants to invade Europe.
Personally I hope the whole group tells Trump to shove it up his ass.
Bottom line only 5 members are paying their fair share. Estonia, Poland and Greece are meeting their financial obligations over Canada for example. The group can tell Trump to shove it and while staying in the agreement, he can cut back the USA share by a humongous amount.
America pays 3.61 of the GDP. Removing 1.61 cuts NATO's throat.
So why does Trump want everyone else to pay 4 percent, when we only pay 3.61? Are we going to raise our contribution as well?
TheProgressivePatriot
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Everything is better for who BubbaI will admit that everything in life is a little bit better knowing Trump is in the White House, and Clinton is out there flying commercial somewhere.
Better for:
Women who need reproductive health care ?
People who need health insurance?
Business who will be hurt by the idiotic trade war?
World peace and security while he undermines NATO?
The environment while he rolls back protections on water, air and ignores climate change?
This countries sovereignty while he kisses up to Russia?
WHAT???!!
nat4900
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Have you asked yourself why some of these countries are now paying more to meet their obligations, nat4900?
Actually, YES.....I've asked myself that and if you read the European press, almost all sources state that NATO countries know that they're dealing with a demagogue and also know that the idiot-in-chief DOES have the power to impose damaging tariffs on trade with Europe........So, they'll play along until the scourge in the oval office is gone.
As I've stated in the O/P, when NATO countries allocate more money for additional armaments, such will NOT save as a dime and ONLY benefits both the US and China's weaponry manufacturers.
In short, NATO countries allocating the full 2% of GDP for defense, does NOTHING for the average U.S. taxpayers....
Trump is putting on yet another show for Putin.
nat4900
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You need some serious help kid. Also you are full of shit. There are only 5 Countries meeting their responsibilities.
"
The Only 5 Countries That Meet NATO's Defense Spending Requirements"
The Only 5 Countries That Meet NATO's Defense Spending Requirements
Eternal fuckhead....WHERE and WHEN did I say that there was 1 or 6 or 29 countries paying the full 2% of their GDP????
What I am stating to morons like you is that NATO spending more for "defense" does NOTHING for us .......and its doubtful it does anything for the more powerful NATO countries....
the entire fucking TV show that Trump is putting on for his ass licking base is to show his paramour, Putin, that he is ALL for Russia............LOL
tycho1572
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Are seriously relying on European press for accurate information?Have you asked yourself why some of these countries are now paying more to meet their obligations, nat4900?
Actually, YES.....I've asked myself that and if you read the European press, almost all sources state that NATO countries know that they're dealing with a demagogue and also know that the idiot-in-chief DOES have the power to impose damaging tariffs on trade with Europe........So, they'll play along until the scourge in the oval office is gone.
As I've stated in the O/P, when NATO countries allocate more money for additional armaments, such will NOT save as a dime and ONLY benefits both the US and China's weaponry manufacturers.
In short, NATO countries allocating the full 2% of GDP for defense, does NOTHING for the average U.S. taxpayers....
Trump is putting on yet another show for Putin.
Are you aware of the restrictions imposed on them?
ThunderKiss1965
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- Dec 17, 2015
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Most people have a hard time understanding the meaning of the "world". Next time you want to post a hit piece on Trump maybe you should pick a news source with actual editors.who expects a huskster to grasp the design of NATO ?
he didnt even know what Brexit was.
Absolutely true:
Donald Trump doesn't actually know what 'Brexit' means
In an interview with Michael Wolff for The Hollywood Reporter, the presumptive Republican nominee appeared to suggest he was did not know the meaning of the world “Brexit” - used to refer to Britain’s exit from the European Union.
“And Brexit? Your position?” Mr Woolf asked.
“Huh?”
“Brexit.”
“Hmm.”
The New York tycoon was then told what the abbreviation meant.
He replied: “Oh yeah, I think they should leave.”
nat4900
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It's scary that you go out and public and drive cars and stuff.
A bit off topic, BUD, don't you think.....Oh sorry you never fucking "think".....LOL
Sun Devil 92
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Maybe Trump wants to declare war on Germany......perhaps even attack Germany from opposite sides along with Putin?.......Rumor has it that such may have happened before in history.....LOL
Eighteen months and still:
Everything is better for who BubbaI will admit that everything in life is a little bit better knowing Trump is in the White House, and Clinton is out there flying commercial somewhere.
Better for:
Women who need reproductive health care ?
People who need health insurance?
Business who will be hurt by the idiotic trade war?
World peace and security while he undermines NATO?
The environment while he rolls back protections on water, air and ignores climate change?
This countries sovereignty while he kisses up to Russia?
WHAT???!!
Better for who? Myself of course.
tycho1572
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She/he does have a point. It is a bit scary knowing how dumb some people can be and still function.It's scary that you go out and public and drive cars and stuff.
A bit off topic, BUD, don't you think.....Oh sorry you never fucking "think".....LOL
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