Will the case against General Flynn be dropped? What will the left wingers and anti trumpets do?

[rightwinger]

Yes I've been saying for two months now Flynn will walk with no charges...Mueller knows the jig is up...

Flynn is getting a free pass in return for information
Not good news for Team Trump

 

[2aguy]

I think Flynn has already been "let off the hook" in return for testimony

Why would our president be worried?

And yet even the plea he made has no bearing on anything to do with Trump....

The crime he plead guilty to has nothing to do with Trump

His testimony in return for the plea deal will....that is the way plea deals work

You guys have rich fantasy lives....

Why would they offer a plea deal unless Flynn had something valuable in return

Possible information from Flynn

- Trump team interactions with Russians both before and after the election
- What was said at those meetings
- What Trump knew and what he directed
- What evidence he has

Not much different than a Mafia bust
Get the little guys to rat out the big guys

And as Andrew McCarthy, an actual federal prosecutor keeps telling morons like you....that isn't how you do it......when you make a plea deal with a lower level criminal...you get them to plea to the actual crime you are trying to prosecute.....that way you establish there was a crime committed, and that the guy was part of it, and has knowledge of others.......getting him to plea to lying to the FBI is a scam....and has nothing to do with Russia....which is likely why he will be let go...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

The only reason I can imagine why Judge Contreras was recused – note: did not recuse himself – is that he was a member of the FISC, the court that grants surveillance warrants under FISA. As the evidence mounts that the warrant was improperly granted, someone – perhaps the chief judge of the district – removed him from further participation in the case, likely because Contreras approved the warrant and its extension. If the warrant was improperly issued, all the evidence it garnered is tainted.

As to why the agreed upon delay, my thought is that Mueller wants to wait until the inspector general report so that, in a sense, his hands will be clean if the case is dropped, that he was compelled by the record to do so.

I missed it earlier, but on December 12 of last year, Judge Sullivan issued a tough demand of the prosecution. They are compelled immediately to turn over all exculpatory material in their possession to General Flynn. The last paragraph of the order is particularly strong:
-----------

In sum, as regards Judge Sullivan, the government has lost the presumption of ethical conduct, which many courts still afford prosecutors. Actions have consequences. But Mueller knew he'd have to provide exculpatory evidence to the defendant prior to the sentencing hearing, and it's hard to imagine that his big, well financed crew didn't have it in hand.

Unless, of course, as I suspect, the exculpatory evidence is being collected by the Office of the Inspector General. And if it is and is made public before the sentencing hearing, Mueller will have hands-off reason to dismiss the case, without anyone being able to credibly charge that he threw it.

Update: And what sort of eculatory evidence could have been withheld? According to Byron York in the Examiner:

In March 2017, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers on the Trump-Russia investigation. One topic of intense interest was the case of Michael Flynn, the Trump White House national security adviser who resigned under pressure on Feb. 13 after just 24 days in the job. (snip)

According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the Jan. 24 interview.

The NRA are a bunch of cowards.

Typical of a dumb fucking liberal, instead of debating the article, you squirrel off with some bullshit statement. As for bunch of cowards, any fucking time you FEEL that you want to come up to one of us NRA members and get in our face, see what happens to you asshats.

 

[Rambunctious]

Flynn is getting a free pass in return for information
Not good news for Team Trump

Tell you what go ahead and keep on telling yourself that...maybe get it tattood on your stupid head...

 

[postman]

The only problem with that view, is that a person has to raise that point as a defense, either at trial or on appeal. Flynn and his lawyer signed off that Flynn made no such claim, and that they accepted a verdict of guilty, and waived all rights to appeal,.

Yeah.....I don't think that will hold up if they used illegal methods to force him to sign the agreement....

The USSC ruled that LEA can lie to suspects,. such as the case where a detective told the suspect that the guy he shot died, and they were going to upgrade the charges to murder, unless he confessed to assault with a deadly weapon. Well he confessed, the lawyer appealed on the grounds he was lied to, and the USSC upheld the conviction.

 

[postman]

Yes I've been saying for two months now Flynn will walk with no charges...Mueller knows the jig is up...

How does one walk from a guilty plea? When both he and his lawyer agreed in return he would cooperate, and waive all appeal rights.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

The only reason I can imagine why Judge Contreras was recused – note: did not recuse himself – is that he was a member of the FISC, the court that grants surveillance warrants under FISA. As the evidence mounts that the warrant was improperly granted, someone – perhaps the chief judge of the district – removed him from further participation in the case, likely because Contreras approved the warrant and its extension. If the warrant was improperly issued, all the evidence it garnered is tainted.

As to why the agreed upon delay, my thought is that Mueller wants to wait until the inspector general report so that, in a sense, his hands will be clean if the case is dropped, that he was compelled by the record to do so.

I missed it earlier, but on December 12 of last year, Judge Sullivan issued a tough demand of the prosecution. They are compelled immediately to turn over all exculpatory material in their possession to General Flynn. The last paragraph of the order is particularly strong:
-----------

In sum, as regards Judge Sullivan, the government has lost the presumption of ethical conduct, which many courts still afford prosecutors. Actions have consequences. But Mueller knew he'd have to provide exculpatory evidence to the defendant prior to the sentencing hearing, and it's hard to imagine that his big, well financed crew didn't have it in hand.

Unless, of course, as I suspect, the exculpatory evidence is being collected by the Office of the Inspector General. And if it is and is made public before the sentencing hearing, Mueller will have hands-off reason to dismiss the case, without anyone being able to credibly charge that he threw it.

Update: And what sort of eculatory evidence could have been withheld? According to Byron York in the Examiner:

In March 2017, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers on the Trump-Russia investigation. One topic of intense interest was the case of Michael Flynn, the Trump White House national security adviser who resigned under pressure on Feb. 13 after just 24 days in the job. (snip)

According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the Jan. 24 interview.

The NRA are a bunch of cowards.

Typical of a dumb fucking liberal, instead of debating the article, you squirrel off with some bullshit statement. As for bunch of cowards, any fucking time you FEEL that you want to come up to one of us NRA members and get in our face, see what happens to you asshats.

........

 

[rightwinger]

I think Flynn has already been "let off the hook" in return for testimony

Why would our president be worried?

And yet even the plea he made has no bearing on anything to do with Trump....

The crime he plead guilty to has nothing to do with Trump

His testimony in return for the plea deal will....that is the way plea deals work

You guys have rich fantasy lives....

Why would they offer a plea deal unless Flynn had something valuable in return

Possible information from Flynn

- Trump team interactions with Russians both before and after the election
- What was said at those meetings
- What Trump knew and what he directed
- What evidence he has

Not much different than a Mafia bust
Get the little guys to rat out the big guys

And as Andrew McCarthy, an actual federal prosecutor keeps telling morons like you....that isn't how you do it......when you make a plea deal with a lower level criminal...you get them to plea to the actual crime you are trying to prosecute.....that way you establish there was a crime committed, and that the guy was part of it, and has knowledge of others.......getting him to plea to lying to the FBI is a scam....and has nothing to do with Russia....which is likely why he will be let go...

No you don't
You allow them to plead to some slap on the wrist charges in return for other testimony

Doesn't have to be related

 

[rightwinger]

Flynn is getting a free pass in return for information
Not good news for Team Trump

Tell you what go ahead and keep on telling yourself that...maybe get it tattood on your stupid head...

Why do you think Flynn plead ?

Overwhelming feeling of guilt?

 

[Dragonlady]

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

The only reason I can imagine why Judge Contreras was recused – note: did not recuse himself – is that he was a member of the FISC, the court that grants surveillance warrants under FISA. As the evidence mounts that the warrant was improperly granted, someone – perhaps the chief judge of the district – removed him from further participation in the case, likely because Contreras approved the warrant and its extension. If the warrant was improperly issued, all the evidence it garnered is tainted.

As to why the agreed upon delay, my thought is that Mueller wants to wait until the inspector general report so that, in a sense, his hands will be clean if the case is dropped, that he was compelled by the record to do so.

I missed it earlier, but on December 12 of last year, Judge Sullivan issued a tough demand of the prosecution. They are compelled immediately to turn over all exculpatory material in their possession to General Flynn. The last paragraph of the order is particularly strong:
-----------

In sum, as regards Judge Sullivan, the government has lost the presumption of ethical conduct, which many courts still afford prosecutors. Actions have consequences. But Mueller knew he'd have to provide exculpatory evidence to the defendant prior to the sentencing hearing, and it's hard to imagine that his big, well financed crew didn't have it in hand.

Unless, of course, as I suspect, the exculpatory evidence is being collected by the Office of the Inspector General. And if it is and is made public before the sentencing hearing, Mueller will have hands-off reason to dismiss the case, without anyone being able to credibly charge that he threw it.

Update: And what sort of eculatory evidence could have been withheld? According to Byron York in the Examiner:

In March 2017, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers on the Trump-Russia investigation. One topic of intense interest was the case of Michael Flynn, the Trump White House national security adviser who resigned under pressure on Feb. 13 after just 24 days in the job. (snip)

According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the Jan. 24 interview.

Given that Flynn pleaded guilty and is awaiting sentencing, no the case won’t be dropped?

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes I've been saying for two months now Flynn will walk with no charges...Mueller knows the jig is up...

You are utterly ignorant of the law. He’s already been charged and his guilty plea entered.

That you think otherwise shows how utterly brainwashed you are.

 

[Care4all]

It could be dropped, if Flynn cooperates fully and gives them solid information....

 

[rightwinger]

Yes I've been saying for two months now Flynn will walk with no charges...Mueller knows the jig is up...

You are utterly ignorant of the law. He’s already been charged and his guilty plea entered.

That you think otherwise shows how utterly brainwashed you are.

Sentencing of Flynn has been deferred pending completion of his testimony

 

[Wry Catcher]

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

Why do you imagine that anything would or should change in that case?

Read the link.......

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

The only reason I can imagine why Judge Contreras was recused – note: did not recuse himself – is that he was a member of the FISC, the court that grants surveillance warrants under FISA. As the evidence mounts that the warrant was improperly granted, someone – perhaps the chief judge of the district – removed him from further participation in the case, likely because Contreras approved the warrant and its extension. If the warrant was improperly issued, all the evidence it garnered is tainted.

The only problem with that view, is that a person has to raise that point as a defense, either at trial or on appeal. Flynn and his lawyer signed off that Flynn made no such claim, and that they accepted a verdict of guilty, and waived all rights to appeal,.

Yeah.....I don't think that will hold up if they used illegal methods to force him to sign the agreement....

BIDDABLE ^^^, that is meekly ready to accept and follow instructions; docile and obedient.
synonyms: obedient, acquiescent, compliant, tractable, amenable, complaisant, cooperative, dutiful, submissive.

Read this:

"The US Director of National Intelligence says that Russia and other foreign entities are '"likely" to pursue more cyber attacks on American and European elections in an attempt to undermine democracy in coming elections, including the 2018 midterms.

""Persistent and disruptive cyber operations will continue against the United States and our European allies using elections as opportunities to undermine democracy," Dan Coats said Tuesday during an annual Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on threats."
US intelligence chief says Russia is still meddling in elections and ‘likely’ to keep trying

 

[postman]

Given that Flynn pleaded guilty and is awaiting sentencing, no the case won’t be dropped?

How long do you have to file an appeal after a conviction?

The notice of appeal is a relatively short document between 1-2 pages. Typically, you must file notice of an appeal within 30 days after you have been convicted. The second step of the appeals process is filing the appeal with the appellate court.

Flynn could appeal after his sentencing, which hasn't happened.

28 U.S. Code § 2255 - Federal custody; remedies on motion attacking sentence
§ 2255.
Federal custody; remedies on motion attacking sentence
court established by Act of Congress claiming the right to be released upon the ground that the sentence was imposed in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States, or that the court was without jurisdiction to impose such sentence, or that the sentence was in excess of the maximum authorized by law, or is otherwise subject to collateral attack, may move the court which imposed the sentence to vacate, set aside or correct the sentence.

 

[toobfreak]

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

The only reason I can imagine why Judge Contreras was recused – note: did not recuse himself – is that he was a member of the FISC, the court that grants surveillance warrants under FISA. As the evidence mounts that the warrant was improperly granted, someone – perhaps the chief judge of the district – removed him from further participation in the case, likely because Contreras approved the warrant and its extension. If the warrant was improperly issued, all the evidence it garnered is tainted.

As to why the agreed upon delay, my thought is that Mueller wants to wait until the inspector general report so that, in a sense, his hands will be clean if the case is dropped, that he was compelled by the record to do so.

I missed it earlier, but on December 12 of last year, Judge Sullivan issued a tough demand of the prosecution. They are compelled immediately to turn over all exculpatory material in their possession to General Flynn. The last paragraph of the order is particularly strong:
-----------

In sum, as regards Judge Sullivan, the government has lost the presumption of ethical conduct, which many courts still afford prosecutors. Actions have consequences. But Mueller knew he'd have to provide exculpatory evidence to the defendant prior to the sentencing hearing, and it's hard to imagine that his big, well financed crew didn't have it in hand.

Unless, of course, as I suspect, the exculpatory evidence is being collected by the Office of the Inspector General. And if it is and is made public before the sentencing hearing, Mueller will have hands-off reason to dismiss the case, without anyone being able to credibly charge that he threw it.

Update: And what sort of eculatory evidence could have been withheld? According to Byron York in the Examiner:

In March 2017, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers on the Trump-Russia investigation. One topic of intense interest was the case of Michael Flynn, the Trump White House national security adviser who resigned under pressure on Feb. 13 after just 24 days in the job. (snip)

According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the Jan. 24 interview.

Consider the case against Flynn dropped. In the end, Flynn will walk a free man (as he should).

 

[Wry Catcher]

It could be dropped, if Flynn cooperates fully and gives them solid information....

Doubtful, Flynn will be lucky to get probation without being placed in custody, if and only if he is 100% honest in assisting the probe of Russian efforts to undermine democracy. NO MATTER WHERE IT LEADS!

Q. Why do many posters seek to protect Trump before defending our democracy?

A.

 

[skews13]

I think Flynn has already been "let off the hook" in return for testimony

Why would our president be worried?

And yet even the plea he made has no bearing on anything to do with Trump....

The Trump crime family is toast. You may want to start preparing yourself with a new set of talking points about how you didn't really support him anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

The tears will be tasty and refreshing as ever if mueller let's Flynn off the hook......why would he do that?

The Great Flynn Case Mystery

The only reason I can imagine why Judge Contreras was recused – note: did not recuse himself – is that he was a member of the FISC, the court that grants surveillance warrants under FISA. As the evidence mounts that the warrant was improperly granted, someone – perhaps the chief judge of the district – removed him from further participation in the case, likely because Contreras approved the warrant and its extension. If the warrant was improperly issued, all the evidence it garnered is tainted.

As to why the agreed upon delay, my thought is that Mueller wants to wait until the inspector general report so that, in a sense, his hands will be clean if the case is dropped, that he was compelled by the record to do so.

I missed it earlier, but on December 12 of last year, Judge Sullivan issued a tough demand of the prosecution. They are compelled immediately to turn over all exculpatory material in their possession to General Flynn. The last paragraph of the order is particularly strong:
-----------

In sum, as regards Judge Sullivan, the government has lost the presumption of ethical conduct, which many courts still afford prosecutors. Actions have consequences. But Mueller knew he'd have to provide exculpatory evidence to the defendant prior to the sentencing hearing, and it's hard to imagine that his big, well financed crew didn't have it in hand.

Unless, of course, as I suspect, the exculpatory evidence is being collected by the Office of the Inspector General. And if it is and is made public before the sentencing hearing, Mueller will have hands-off reason to dismiss the case, without anyone being able to credibly charge that he threw it.

Update: And what sort of eculatory evidence could have been withheld? According to Byron York in the Examiner:

In March 2017, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers on the Trump-Russia investigation. One topic of intense interest was the case of Michael Flynn, the Trump White House national security adviser who resigned under pressure on Feb. 13 after just 24 days in the job. (snip)

According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the Jan. 24 interview.

Consider the case against Flynn dropped. In the end, Flynn will walk a free man (as he should).

He will receive a slap on the wrist
Maybe a fine and probation

The key will be what stories he has to tell

 

[rightwinger]

I think Flynn has already been "let off the hook" in return for testimony

Why would our president be worried?

And yet even the plea he made has no bearing on anything to do with Trump....

The Trump crime family is toast. You may want to start preparing yourself with a new set of talking points about how you didn't really support him anyway.

Their story will change to Flynn being a liar and untrustworthy