Would you Prefer that your kids go to a Majority White or Majority Black School?

[Meathead]

Care to explain how you can have an all-white free country?

You're the one who came up with "all white".

You obviously implied white countries cannot be free. I guess you thought you were being witty.

No, Iceman came up with the all white when he said, "If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.".

I live in what would be called a "white country. You came up with "all white". Let's not get into an idiotic exchange. I'm not sure I could take much more of your wit.

 

[National Socialist]

If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.

Yeah, it's a damn shame you have to live in a free country instead of a white one, huh?

Please explain to us idiots why we couldn't have a white country and a free one at the same time? Its very easy actually. Once you rid the area of degenerates and non whites that won't leave voluntarily you enforce STRICT immigration laws. I suggest reading H.A. Covington's Northwest novels. I absolutely love his books.

 

[WinterBorn]

You're the one who came up with "all white".

You obviously implied white countries cannot be free. I guess you thought you were being witty.

No, Iceman came up with the all white when he said, "If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.".

I live in what would be called a "white country. You came up with "all white". Let's not get into an idiotic exchange. I'm not sure I could take much more of your wit.

Oh please, like that is not what Iceman meant? How white does a country have to be to have no schools that have a majority of black students? Pretty much all white.

And in order to maintain that, there would have to be laws against immigration by people of color and a way of keeping the birth rates lower in minority classes.

I have not tried to be witty. I have simply pointed out the logical result of what one of the posters wished for.

 

[WinterBorn]

If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.

Yeah, it's a damn shame you have to live in a free country instead of a white one, huh?

Please explain to us idiots why we couldn't have a white country and a free one at the same time? Its very easy actually. Once you rid the area of degenerates and non whites that won't leave voluntarily you enforce STRICT immigration laws. I suggest reading H.A. Covington's Northwest novels. I absolutely love his books.

So freedom for whites only?? Everyone else is out of luck?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Anyone that threatens or commits violence against another doesn't deserve freedom. I want my children to go to a school that is safe with high standards

 

[WinterBorn]

Anyone that threatens or commits violence against another doesn't deserve freedom. I want my children to go to a school that is safe with high standards

Great. I have no problem with removing violent people from society. But that is not what is being discussed. What is being discussed is removing black people. Not just violent black people, but black people in general. And there was no mention of removing violent white people.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I prefer my children go to a school that is successful in teaching them what they need to know to be prepared for college and or the real world no matter what the race majority is.

 

[Meathead]

No, Iceman came up with the all white when he said, "If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.".

I live in what would be called a "white country. You came up with "all white". Let's not get into an idiotic exchange. I'm not sure I could take much more of your wit.

Oh please, like that is not what Iceman meant? How white does a country have to be to have no schools that have a majority of black students? Pretty much all white.

And in order to maintain that, there would have to be laws against immigration by people of color and a way of keeping the birth rates lower in minority classes.

I have not tried to be witty. I have simply pointed out the logical result of what one of the posters wished for.

Wit fails you as does logic.

 

[WinterBorn]

I live in what would be called a "white country. You came up with "all white". Let's not get into an idiotic exchange. I'm not sure I could take much more of your wit.

Oh please, like that is not what Iceman meant? How white does a country have to be to have no schools that have a majority of black students? Pretty much all white.

And in order to maintain that, there would have to be laws against immigration by people of color and a way of keeping the birth rates lower in minority classes.

I have not tried to be witty. I have simply pointed out the logical result of what one of the posters wished for.

Wit fails you as does logic.

oh, since you pronounced me a failure it must be so? lol

Obviously there are posters looking to create an "all-white" country. So my question was certainly valid.

 

[Asclepias]

If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.

Your "country" never has been white. You would have never made it without people from multiple ethnicities doing your work and teaching you every step of the way. Look at how you have repaid them.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.

Your "country" never has been white. You would have never made it without people from multiple ethnicities doing your work and teaching you every step of the way. Look at how you have repaid them.

Non sequitur.

Did he say it had been?

 

[Asclepias]

1. The DNA tests are a scam. They vary depending on who does the test and slaves in the US from different tribes have interbred along with a few white slave owners. Narrowing down the location is at best an educated guess from a number of places confined to the results.

2. I'm sorry, I do not attribute the success of any given race or culture to myself. I can only learn from cultures and adopt what works for them, and perhaps, advance the concepts.

3. The reason why African History is largely from a European and Arab point of view is clear. As all histories, much of African history hasn't been written. In Sub-Saharan Africa little to no African history was documented by Africans. I would give my left testicle to be an archeologist in Nigeria though. In any case, parts of Africa had not discovered the wheel by the 18th century. Yet most all of Africa, with few exceptions, were conquered by those outside the continent. Anyway, got any good books for me of the academic sort? Any suggested YouTube videos of professional lecturers on the matter? It may be hard for you to understand but I love reading African History possibly as much as you do. Ever read Kevin Shillington? He's a white guy but I think you'll like him. Kevin Shillington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In fact, I know you would. Perhaps we should discuss African history in the History forum?

4. EEERRRRRRGHHHH.... And there is that word "we." I used to cringe in every history class when someone, no matter what their race, talked about a historical subject as "we" or "our." I don't even talk about the United States in that manner though I occasionally make a mistake. But talking about "we" in the context of enchant African civilization is like a white person doing the same in Roman, Greek, or Anglo-Saxon history, when in reality, it wasn't them at all. In every case the civilizations are long gone and as are the Egyptians, Mali, Ghana, Songhai, and Ife empires. They were taken over by more advanced, or in some cases, less advanced civilizations. To go back to the principles that made them great would be like going back to mercantilist economics for Great Britain.

A simple exploration of Kwanzaa in America will reveal that is an extension of the Black Power movement preached by Black Nationalists who wanted to replicate an East African culture when most blacks in America came from West Africa.

It doesn't get any more culturally conservative as this. And it also backs up my observations of black culture.

Kwanzaa - Discover the Networks
Maulana Karenga - Discover the Networks

Karenga postulated seven major principles to be emphasized during Kwanzaa, identifying each by its Swahili name:
•Unity (Umoja)
•Self-Determination (Kujichaguila)
•Collective Work and Responsibility (Ujima)
•Cooperative Economics (Ujamaa)
•Purpose (Nia)
•Creativity (Kuumba)
•Faith (Imani)

Ironically, these seven principles as a whole mirror precisely the principles that were embraced by the Symbionese Liberation Army, a pro-Marxist, revolutionary terrorist group of the 1970s.

Kwanzaa is a week-long festival celebrated mainly in the U.S. from December 26 through January 1 each year. It was established in 1966 by the socialist and black nationalist Maulana Karenga, who promoted the holiday as a black alternative to Christmas. Karenga's idea was to celebrate the end of what he considered the Christmas-season exploitation of African Americans.

According to the official Kwanzaa website, the celebration was originally designed to foster "conditions that would enhance the revolutionary social change for the masses of Black Americans," and to provide a "reassessment, reclaiming, recommitment, remembrance, retrieval, resumption, resurrection and rejuvenation of those principles (Way of Life) utilized by Black Americans' ancestors."

Karenga postulated seven major principles to be emphasized during Kwanzaa, identifying each by its Swahili name:
•Unity (Umoja)
•Self-Determination (Kujichaguila)
•Collective Work and Responsibility (Ujima)
•Cooperative Economics (Ujamaa)
•Purpose (Nia)
•Creativity (Kuumba)
•Faith (Imani)

Ironically, these seven principles as a whole mirror precisely the principles that were embraced by the Symbionese Liberation Army, a pro-Marxist, revolutionary terrorist group of the 1970s.

The symbol most identified with Kwanzaa consists of seven colored candles placed in a menorah-like candelabrum. These candles borrow their color scheme from Marcus Garvey’s old black nationalist ensign. The lone black candle represents the so-called “black race.” The three red candles evoke images of socialist realism with bloody red banners waving to rally the oppressed for the overthrow of the established order. And the three green candles are meant to recall the splendor of Africa's landscapes.

When Karenga first established Kwanzaa, he and his votaries also crafted a flag of black nationalism and a pledge: "We pledge allegiance to the red, black, and green, our flag, the symbol of our eternal struggle, and to the land we must obtain; one nation of black people, with one G-d of us all, totally united in the struggle, for black love, black freedom, and black self-determination."

The philosophy underlying Kwanzaa is known as Kawaida, a variation of classical Marxism that also includes enmity toward white people. Practitioners of Kawaida believe that one's racial identity "determines life conditions, life chances, and self-understanding" -- just as Marxists identify class as the determining factor of one's life conditions.

The name "Kwanzaa" derives from the Swahili term "matunda yakwanza," or "first fruit," and the festival's trappings, as noted above, all have Swahili names. But Swahili is an East African language, whereas the slaves who were brought to North America came from West Africa. In other words, Swahili has no historical relevance whatsoever for American blacks. Karenga nonetheless elected to build his holiday around Swahili terms because Swahili was the trendy language in the Black Power movement during the 1960s.

1. What makes you say the DNA tests are a scam? Do you have any credible proof of this?

2. Thats your problem that you don't have enough self awareness to know you attribute the successes of your ethnicity to yourself. What you are claiming is that you have successfully overcome the human instinct to identify with a given group. Pardon me if I think you are full of it.

3. Sorry but once again you are wrong. Just because you were taught that there was no written history doesnt mean you have a claim that is a fact. In any case there is also a oral tradition of passing down history on the African continent as well. Your belief in that oral history is not my concern. Your assertion that Africa did not discover the wheel is conjecture as would be my claim that they did discover it. No one knows who discovered the wheel. Europe did not know how to make carbonized steel until centuries after it was being produced by the Haya people.

Haya people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Haya people of Tanzania have been linked to one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all time: the invention of steel. Archaeologist Peter Schmidt discovered through a literalist combination of archaeology and oral tradition that the Haya had been forging steel for around 2000 years.

I have read from several authors that probably do not meet your white mandated approval list. Dr. ivan Van Sertima and Dr Runoko Rashidi are 2 of my favorites. Leo Weiner is a white guy from back in the day that has had his work buried but was re-discovered by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima so in a way a white guy was the father of the Afrocentric movement.

4. I understand you detest collective awareness and prefer individualism which is your right. What is sad is you honestly think you have the correct answer. What is curious is that you believe that being savage is a virtue. It only requires a moron to destroy a work of art constructed by a skilled artist. Other nations violently invading and conquering others has always gone on throughout history. The fact that Europeans have been more successful at it recently seems to be a source of pride to you and in contradiction to your stated belief that you do not attribute the success of others to yourself.

I dont get what your exploration of the roots of Kwanzaa have to do with the discussion? I already know this information. I also forgot in my Afrocentric view to point out other non black examples of collectivism working out pretty well for its members. The Jewish and Chinese communities are a great example.

 

[Asclepias]

If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.

Your "country" never has been white. You would have never made it without people from multiple ethnicities doing your work and teaching you every step of the way. Look at how you have repaid them.

Non sequitur.

Did he say it had been?

Stupid question. What does that have to do with my post?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Your "country" never has been white. You would have never made it without people from multiple ethnicities doing your work and teaching you every step of the way. Look at how you have repaid them.

Non sequitur.

Did he say it had been?

Stupid question. What does that have to do with my post?

Everything.

 

[Asclepias]

Non sequitur.

Did he say it had been?

Stupid question. What does that have to do with my post?

Everything.

Everything like what? I dont care if he never claimed it was. i was making sure he understood that so he knows he has no authority to make it an all white country. Does that make sense to you?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Stupid question. What does that have to do with my post?

Everything.

Everything like what? I dont care if he never claimed it was. i was making sure he understood that so he knows he has no authority to make it an all white country. Does that make sense to you?

You were arguing a claim that he never made.

 

[Peterf]

Yeah, it's a damn shame you have to live in a free country instead of a white one, huh?

Yeah, because democracy invariably flourishes in non-white countries.

Care to explain how you can have an all-white free country?

Iceland is a free country and is all 'white' - at least it was when I lived there and I don't many dark skinned pwople have moved there since.

 

[Iceman]

If we had a White country, this wouldn't be an issue.

Yeah, it's a damn shame you have to live in a free country instead of a white one, huh?

Don't have either...

 

[westwall]

So long as the academic quality is good, I could care less.

 

[Asclepias]

Everything.

Everything like what? I dont care if he never claimed it was. i was making sure he understood that so he knows he has no authority to make it an all white country. Does that make sense to you?

You were arguing a claim that he never made.

You have a hard time reading. I am not making a claim. i am informing him.