Wow: Daughter of two moms boldly speaks out AGAINST gay marriage

[jon_berzerk]

First off, it's Wiccans. Second off, you're flat wrong. You're talking out of your ass. In Paganism in general, there is no objection to homosexuality in any way. In Wicca, the Charge of the Goddess says:

Let my worship be within the heart that rejoices, for behold, all acts of love and pleasure are my rituals. Therefore, let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honor and humility, mirth and reverence within you.

Secondly, who says that our laws are supposed to dictate to other people how to live and reproduce? You decide that for yourself. I'll decide it for myself. It's called freedom. It's a really cool concept that our country kinda prides itself on. Maybe you'd like some place where the government forces itself on people's decision on how to live and reproduce. I hear ISIS is looking for a few stupid men.

I have seen it spelled both ways. But if you are a member we will use your spelling----wiccans.


Our laws do in fact dictate how other people live. You cannot steal another persons stuff, you cannot murder, you cannot refuse to pay your bills, you cannot go over the speed limit, you have to pay taxes, you cannot get legally married without a state license.

Our laws are put in place by majority vote, so the majority DOES decide how all of us must live.

But if you want minority rule, apply for citizenship to North Korea or Iran.

Our laws are put in place by majority vote

that is sort of true

we are a representative republic

we elect persons to bring up and vote on laws in our name


however because it is law does not mean it is Constitutional

all true. the constitution was ratified by a majority vote of the states. So, yes, everything that we live by was put in place by majority vote.

Majority is not a racist word, it is not a bad word. it is how a democracy, representative republic, works.

the leftists want to confuse us as a true democracy thankfully we are not

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No, the leftists want a dictatorial monarchy.

but only if it serves their needs

--LOL

 

[bodecea]

*chuckle* You said "pussy".

I don't just say it [emoji6]

which one is seawytch?

No Chickenfish, that's Kosher and her new G/F. You'll have to keep contending with your fantasies about me. I'll help you out...5'8" 140 lbs. Dark blonde with lighter highlights. I've been compared to Meryl Streep. I think it's the nose. My partner is 5'4" 120 lbs, black hair, brown eyes and an ass that would make a porn star jealous.

That's all you're gonna get.

Great, but gay women do not turn me on at all. But enjoy your imaginery life with your imaginery wife.

Well then....a win/win.

 

[bodecea]

Are you seriously holding Ellen and Portia up as a butch/fem couple?

I think he's insecure because Ellen is more manly than him. So instead of admitting he's a pussy ass wuss, he has to blame Ellen for his inadequacies.

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

 

[bodecea]

I don't think that the problem is in kid, i think same-sex couples just can't give their kids "something" which traditional couples can.
And now, when CHILDREN say that same-sex marriages are not as good as we thought before... i think we should think about it's necessity!

Actually all broken and blended families are coming up short in outcomes for the children.

Little neighbor girl who plays with my daughter, is having some family drama, her step dad cheated on her mom, her father just got out of jail and is hanging around, all very painful for her.

Poor girl has a lot stacked against her already.

once you throw traditional marriage out the window

all hell breaks loose

unfortunately the "all hell that breaks loose"

is on the innocent bystanders the children

So how did this woman turn out so badly?

In fact, since she happens now to take the RWnut position against same sex marriage, one could argue from the RWnut perspective that she got a good upbringing. lol

And btw, isn't one of the RWnut arguments that same sex couples are going to raise gay children? What happened to that idiocy?

why is it with all you leftists that is all or nothing

who the fuck said she turned out badly

god you fuckers are dumb

She claims she turned out badly.

 

[Correll]

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I did post your link, I did not say this

"dad was a coward who couldn't handle his wife being a lesbian and loving another woman over him....and in his crushed little ego, abandoned his daughter."

you did.

So...explain to us the major philosophical differences between what I said and what you said.

See the bolded

dad was a coward who couldn't handle his wife being a lesbian and loving another woman over him....and in his crushed little ego, abandoned his daughter.

The words in black I agree with.

Nothing but speculation. For all we know the dad tried and tried but the mom shut him out.

The courts are weak on protecting a fathers rights NOW, 30 years ago, they were even worse.

So the despite the daughters own words

My dad wasn’t a great guy, and after she left him he didn’t bother coming around anymore.

You want to believe it was all the fault of the evil dyke.

You bigots crack me up.

I don't believe that a 2 or 3 year old is in a position to really know what is going on with her parents break up.


That you cannot just disagree with my opinion, but feel a need to attack my character shows that you know your position is weak.

 

[Redfish]

society sets the rules for how we humans deal with our biology. But society cannot change biology, only set rules for how we deal with it.

If society as a whole wants to condone gay marriage, thats just fine. But all members of the society should have a vote on it, it should not be dictated down from DC.

I don't remember us all having a vote on straight marriage in the form it is in. What's up with that?

straight marriage is normal. If you want to normalize the abnormal then all of society should have a voice in it.

are you afraid of a vote?

Ah...so your definition of normal doesn't require a vote? When did we vote on what is normal or not?

we do it every time we go to the polling place, every time our legislators vote on a bill. "normal" means acceptable to society as a whole. Interracial marriage was deemed normal by legislative/judicial actions.

the society decides what it considers acceptable and normal, and those views change over time.

a majority of society today MAY be ready to accept gay marriage as normal, or maybe not. But all of society should make the decision, not one or two (or 9) judges.

and if you win this one, you better be ready for all forms of multiple marriage, because it will be next.

So, the polling public thought President Obama was "normal". Good to know.

if electing makes him normal, then yes. But what does that have to do with homosexuality being an abnormal human condition?

 

[Redfish]

I have known many gay couples, both male and female, and in every one of them there is a masculine one and a feminine one. Don't pretend that isn't true, because you know it is.

Look at Ellen and her partner. Martina Navratilova and her partner. Barney Frank and his partner. every case proves what I am saying.

Why do I suspect they are truly messing with your mind.

"Oh look dear! Here comes Redfish...which one of us plays Fem today for him? I forget."

have you ever seen Ellen in a dress or female clothes?

Yes. Have you bothered to look?

Wait............... You think it's about CLOTHING?

yes, the way a person dresses, does their hair, walks, and talks shows which gender they identify with.

Are you going to honestly sit there at your keyboard and claim that in gay couples there isn't one who is more male acting and one that is more female acting?

What a simple life you must lead..........

Yes, being normal is simple and natural, you have my sympathy, just as bipolar people have my sympathy.

 

[Redfish]

I don't think that the problem is in kid, i think same-sex couples just can't give their kids "something" which traditional couples can.
And now, when CHILDREN say that same-sex marriages are not as good as we thought before... i think we should think about it's necessity!

Actually all broken and blended families are coming up short in outcomes for the children.

Little neighbor girl who plays with my daughter, is having some family drama, her step dad cheated on her mom, her father just got out of jail and is hanging around, all very painful for her.

Poor girl has a lot stacked against her already.

once you throw traditional marriage out the window

all hell breaks loose

unfortunately the "all hell that breaks loose"

is on the innocent bystanders the children

So how did this woman turn out so badly?

In fact, since she happens now to take the RWnut position against same sex marriage, one could argue from the RWnut perspective that she got a good upbringing. lol

And btw, isn't one of the RWnut arguments that same sex couples are going to raise gay children? What happened to that idiocy?

why is it with all you leftists that is all or nothing

who the fuck said she turned out badly

god you fuckers are dumb

She claims she turned out badly.

Isn't she the one to make that determination and its cause?

 

[Redfish]

Are you seriously holding Ellen and Portia up as a butch/fem couple?

I think he's insecure because Ellen is more manly than him. So instead of admitting he's a pussy ass wuss, he has to blame Ellen for his inadequacies.

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Daughter of Two Moms Comes Out Against Gay Marriage

As she grew up with her loving mom and stepmom, Barwick writes, her family taught her “how to be brave,” have “empathy,” “how to listen,” and “how to stand up for myself, even if that means I stand alone.” And for a while — into her 20s — that meant being an advocate for gay marriage. But now she’s had a change of heart.

“Same-sex marriage and parenting withholds either a mother or father from a child while telling him or her that it doesn’t matter. That it’s all the same. But it’s not,” she writes. “A lot of us, a lot of your kids, are hurting. My father’s absence created a huge hole in me, and I ached every day for a dad. I loved my mom’s partner, but another mom could never have replaced the father I lost.”

But while her argument is heartfelt, note some gay-parenting supporters, it’s also full of holes.

“There’s nothing wrong with her sharing her experience — it’s an important conversation, and one that we have, and should have, all the time,” Gabriel Blau, executive director of the Family Equality Council, tells Yahoo Parenting. “But denying a huge swath of American citizens our civil rights is not an answer.”

So...If having both a mother and a father is so crucially important, guess we should ban divorce right?

 

[bodecea]

Are you seriously holding Ellen and Portia up as a butch/fem couple?

I think he's insecure because Ellen is more manly than him. So instead of admitting he's a pussy ass wuss, he has to blame Ellen for his inadequacies.

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

 

[Redfish]

Are you seriously holding Ellen and Portia up as a butch/fem couple?

I think he's insecure because Ellen is more manly than him. So instead of admitting he's a pussy ass wuss, he has to blame Ellen for his inadequacies.

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

 

[bodecea]

I think he's insecure because Ellen is more manly than him. So instead of admitting he's a pussy ass wuss, he has to blame Ellen for his inadequacies.

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Oh...and what would that be?

 

[Redfish]

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Oh...and what would that be?

Hmmmmm, might be time to take another look at your biology 101 textbook. maybe add in an anatomy 101 as well.

 

[bodecea]

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Oh...and what would that be?

Hmmmmm, might be time to take another look at your biology 101 textbook. maybe add in an anatomy 101 as well.

So, you don't know. Or else you would say. Color me surprised.

 

[Redfish]

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Oh...and what would that be?

Hmmmmm, might be time to take another look at your biology 101 textbook. maybe add in an anatomy 101 as well.

So, you don't know. Or else you would say. Color me surprised.

Give it a rest, bode. you are making a fool of youself.

 

[bodecea]

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Oh...and what would that be?

Hmmmmm, might be time to take another look at your biology 101 textbook. maybe add in an anatomy 101 as well.

So, you don't know. Or else you would say. Color me surprised.

Give it a rest, bode. you are making a fool of youself.

You made a claim that "we know what you and 'wytchey' really want"....and yet, you can't articulate what that might be. Who's making a fool of themself?

 

[Redfish]

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Oh...and what would that be?

Hmmmmm, might be time to take another look at your biology 101 textbook. maybe add in an anatomy 101 as well.

So, you don't know. Or else you would say. Color me surprised.

Give it a rest, bode. you are making a fool of youself.

You made a claim that "we know what you and 'wytchey' really want"....and yet, you can't articulate what that might be. Who's making a fool of themself?

OK, since you insist. What you really crave is a throbbing erect penis shoved into your wet hot vagina. You know it, we all know it.

 

[Seawytch]

I think he's insecure because Ellen is more manly than him. So instead of admitting he's a pussy ass wuss, he has to blame Ellen for his inadequacies.

Oh dear....close to home on that one.

is that a cry for heterosexuality?

No.

LOL, we know what you and wytchey really want and you can't get it from each other.

I feel bad for you.

Why? We get what we "need" from our respective spouses. I feel sorry for you that you have to live vicariously thru Bod and I.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So, this little bitch has daddy issues, so do millions of others, including the ones who were raped by them. And her daddy abandoned her. Let's mush on.

Why is she a bitch cuz she missed having a father? And child rape in more than half of the cases, is proven false. Would she be a bitch then if she falsely accused her dad of rape?

Go paint a house.

Where did you get that nonsense from? And she's a bitch because she's jealous of her kids having the daddy that she didn't therefore gays shouldn't have equal rights. In other words, she can't fucking think and she just handing all the right-winger Christians another piece of propaganda that doesn't have anything to do with gay marriage and everything to do with why did you leave me daddy.

BTW, if a child tells you they have been raped, they more than likely have. Children do lie but rarely about that.