14M lose coverage under GOP health bill: Congress’ analyst

[brummelben]

Trump says he is "proud" of GOP health plan. What else can he say. Will he also be "proud" to be a one-term president - if he even lasts that long?

Defunding Planned Parenthood Would Leave Poor And Rural Women Without Care: CBO

Ryan ‘Encouraged’ By Report That Says Millions Would Lose Insurance Under GOP Plan

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Trump: ‘Insurance For Everybody’

REALITY: 24 Million More Uninsured

CBO: Premiums To Skyrocket

if it is so catastrophic to them not to have, stop abortions and get the funding. it was offered to them in that arrangement. Want to go there, let's go. why can't they stop the killing of babies and take their money?

Abortions are legal

not with tax payer money...oops

Correct, and no one uses tax payers money for abortions. If you can document otherwise, lets hear it

does planned parent hood use federal dollars for their services? yes or no? If it's yes, then they are using tax dollars and why the money is being pulled dumbster dave.

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

 

[Dschrute3]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

 

[jc456]

if it is so catastrophic to them not to have, stop abortions and get the funding. it was offered to them in that arrangement. Want to go there, let's go. why can't they stop the killing of babies and take their money?

Abortions are legal

not with tax payer money...oops

Correct, and no one uses tax payers money for abortions. If you can document otherwise, lets hear it

does planned parent hood use federal dollars for their services? yes or no? If it's yes, then they are using tax dollars and why the money is being pulled dumbster dave.

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

then why do they need federal dollars at all?

 

[brummelben]

Abortions are legal

not with tax payer money...oops

Correct, and no one uses tax payers money for abortions. If you can document otherwise, lets hear it

does planned parent hood use federal dollars for their services? yes or no? If it's yes, then they are using tax dollars and why the money is being pulled dumbster dave.

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

then why do they need federal dollars at all?

They offer a whole lot of good programs for women who do not have access to doctors.

 

[jc456]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

 

[jc456]

not with tax payer money...oops

Correct, and no one uses tax payers money for abortions. If you can document otherwise, lets hear it

does planned parent hood use federal dollars for their services? yes or no? If it's yes, then they are using tax dollars and why the money is being pulled dumbster dave.

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

then why do they need federal dollars at all?

They offer a whole lot of good programs for women who do not have access to doctors.

so the money does what exactly? you use the fed dollars to pay for the other services to allow other money to pay for the abortions. What's the difference dumbster dave?

 

[Dschrute3]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

 

[brummelben]

Correct, and no one uses tax payers money for abortions. If you can document otherwise, lets hear it

does planned parent hood use federal dollars for their services? yes or no? If it's yes, then they are using tax dollars and why the money is being pulled dumbster dave.

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

then why do they need federal dollars at all?

They offer a whole lot of good programs for women who do not have access to doctors.

so the money does what exactly? you use the fed dollars to pay for the other services to allow other money to pay for the abortions. What's the difference dumbster dave?

spin it what ever way you want

 

[jc456]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

^^^^EXACTLY^^^^^^

 

[jc456]

does planned parent hood use federal dollars for their services? yes or no? If it's yes, then they are using tax dollars and why the money is being pulled dumbster dave.

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

then why do they need federal dollars at all?

They offer a whole lot of good programs for women who do not have access to doctors.

so the money does what exactly? you use the fed dollars to pay for the other services to allow other money to pay for the abortions. What's the difference dumbster dave?

spin it what ever way you want

no that is fking fact and a libshit spin to get the money to fund abortions using tax dollars dumbster dave. And it is illegal. now if they truly were about women's heath then throw out the abortions and help women with tax dollars. But you take issue with that cause you want the tax dollars so they can fund abortions.

 

[Lakhota]

Trumpcare will be sooo wonderful...

Hate Your Obamacare Deductible? The GOP Bill Would Make It Even Bigger.

 

[brummelben]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

As it is the Republican plan IS a huge failure

 

[bendog]

Yes, but you have no right to go see someone to cure you that claims to be a doctor that hasn't gotten a degree from an "accredited licensed medical school."

We don't have, nor will we have a free market as long as there is licensing of doctors, as long as the FDA can put it's seal of approval on what is a cure and what isn't a cure, and as long as "accredited" medical schools are the ones that are given government approval.
What we have now is cronyism.

Folks get arrested and thrown in jail for selling cancer "cures" w/o FDA approval. It is insane the shit the allopathic chemical industry will go through to maintain it's monopoly on health care.

Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way

We need an end to the AMA!

And apparently the AARP.

Though Trumpcare seems an excellent attempt to get rid of the AARP's members.

Obamacare favored the poor and low income workers. Trumpcare favors the the wealthy and higher income workers.
Only when the nation agrees that access to healthcare should not be determined by one's wealth will the fight end. It's going to happen eventually. It's just a question of when.

Working families making 50-80 K thought they were left behnd by Obamacare, A family of 4 making 50K paid almost 3,400 K for coverage that supposedly paid 70% of the cost of coverage. They knew they got screwed cause non-workers got Medicaid at no cost.


Subsidy Amounts By Income Limits For The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) | Financial Samurai
That's why a non-conservative populist got 200k rustbelt votes to get elected despite losing the popular vote by 3 million or something.

and those who got insurance using subsidies don't pay any out of pocket dollars. how fked up is that. our deductables went up, our policy costs went up and then there is the subsidies abusers.

Assuming you have employer sponsored care, which appears unlikely from the content of your post, you actually got wellness care without any dediutable.

 

[brummelben]

They do not use federal dollars for abortions.

then why do they need federal dollars at all?

They offer a whole lot of good programs for women who do not have access to doctors.

so the money does what exactly? you use the fed dollars to pay for the other services to allow other money to pay for the abortions. What's the difference dumbster dave?

spin it what ever way you want

no that is fking fact and a libshit spin to get the money to fund abortions using tax dollars dumbster dave. And it is illegal. now if they truly were about women's heath then throw out the abortions and help women with tax dollars. But you take issue with that cause you want the tax dollars so they can fund abortions.

Abortions are part of a woman health DUH!

 

[bendog]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

As it is the Republican plan IS a huge failure

Bigly. They may try to amend it, however. I was surprised to see that it gave so much to the fiscal conservative/ cut the rich folks' taxes. I thought the gop saw the writing on the wall that even Missouri and Arkansas didn't want to give up Medicaid dollars ... even if they were ok with throwing the 5 person families making 50K even more to the wolves.

 

[Dschrute3]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

As it is the Republican plan IS a huge failure

Yeah, i heard Mitch McConnell has demanded the Mandate stay. It's a real mess. Personally, I won't support any plan that includes the Mandate.

 

[brummelben]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

As it is the Republican plan IS a huge failure

Bigly. They may try to amend it, however. I was surprised to see that it gave so much to the fiscal conservative/ cut the rich folks' taxes. I thought the gop saw the writing on the wall that even Missouri and Arkansas didn't want to give up Medicaid dollars ... even if they were ok with throwing the 5 person families making 50K even more to the wolves.

Ryan told us this was the best we were going to get. Take it or leave it.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

How in the hell do we know if the free market won't work? We haven't had that in a long time. For decades the government has been imposing stupid regulations that have screwed up the free market so we have no idea how good health care can be without government interference, do we?

A stupid bureaucrat, whose boss is a corrupt politician elected by special interest groups, will not provide good health care for you. If you think so then you are very naive. The best hope you have for good health care is for the frigging government to let free enterprise provide the best product for you at the lowest possible price. It works for everything else and it will work for health care. We don't need the stupid government telling us how to run our lives. Helath Cate is too important to have the inefficient and corrupt government involved, don't you think?

I can fire a doctor that doesn't do a good job. I can change insurance companies if my provider doesn't provide a good product. However, with government interference my choices evaporate pretty damn quickly, doesn't it?

Both Obamacare and Ryancare keeps the government from you having access to the best health that would be available. When the three Rayancare phases are completed we will see if it is better than Obamacare. I suspect it will be. Anything will be better than Obamacare.

Yes, but you have no right to go see someone to cure you that claims to be a doctor that hasn't gotten a degree from an "accredited licensed medical school."

We don't have, nor will we have a free market as long as there is licensing of doctors, as long as the FDA can put it's seal of approval on what is a cure and what isn't a cure, and as long as "accredited" medical schools are the ones that are given government approval.
What we have now is cronyism.

Folks get arrested and thrown in jail for selling cancer "cures" w/o FDA approval. It is insane the shit the allopathic chemical industry will go through to maintain it's monopoly on health care.

Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way

We need an end to the AMA!

And apparently the AARP.

Though Trumpcare seems an excellent attempt to get rid of the AARP's members.

Obamacare favored the poor and low income workers. Trumpcare favors the the wealthy and higher income workers.
Only when the nation agrees that access to healthcare should not be determined by one's wealth will the fight end. It's going to happen eventually. It's just a question of when.

where did the money come from for the subsidies?

Where does the money come from when people get needlessly sick because the did not have preventive care, and are no longer productive and paying taxes, but instead on disability? You selfish, short sighted dumb fucks need a reality check.

 

[Kosh]

The CBO number is very misleading. If the Mandate is ended, there will obviously be less people insured. They'll have a choice again. Just end the Mandate and move on from there.

it's why it's all libshit talking points on the networks. WE DON'T FALL for THAT ANYMORE!!!!!

They won't necessarily be 'losing' their coverage. They'll be allowed to make a choice again. The Mandate is Un-American. It needs to go. Any plan that doesn't include ending it, will be considered a huge Republican failure by me.

As it is the Republican plan IS a huge failure

Wrong as always, then again you can not cite from the actual bill why it is..

You also missed posting how many government/tax payer hospitals are out there, to promote your far left religious dogma!

 

[kyzr]

I'm leaning toward just repeal ACA, block grant Medicaid to the States, if you want healthcare you pay for it. If you don't have healthcare insurance and get sick go to a witchdoctor. Healthcare is a personal responsibility, not a nanny-state "right".