Abortion = Social JUSTICE?

[Anguille]

The government has no right to advocate for killing children.

Brilliant Alli!! And guess what? it isn't!!

 

[Avatar4321]

No matter how irresponsible a woman might be do you really think the right thing to do is to punish her for it by forcing her to give birth? Are children only instrument of punishment for whores in your book?

What kind of twisted person are you? A child is not a punishment. Death is a punishment.

 

[PixieStix]

The government has no right to advocate for killing children.

Brilliant Alli!! And guess what? it isn't!!

What planet are you living on? Uranus?

 

[Anguille]

I have no be4f (?!) with you if homicide is something you'd rather not do yourself. But if you think you have any business butting into another woman's private life and dictate to her what she can or cannot do about another human life being in the way of her happpy-go-lucky libertine lifestyle then you' re a bunch of honest people who value human life and the law and think that it should be illegal to kill another person for no reason other than not wanting to own up and show some fucking responsibility

Edited for correctness

Word spin is all ya got, Beuk?
Someone needs to take that little toy away from you. You abuse the privilege.

 

[tigerbob]

sigh...it's not really worth talking to people that hate women so much, is it, my friend. I swear I'm going to stay out of these threads and really I'm going to try my best.

On what planet does protecting life mean you hate women?

Do you hate women who choose to have an abortion?

 

[Anguille]

The government has no right to advocate for killing children.

Brilliant Alli!! And guess what? it isn't!!

What planet are you living on? Uranus?

What planet do you have your head up?

Your anus?

 

[Avatar4321]

Still waiting to hear how killing babies equals social justice.

Just admit it, Anguille. You think there are people out there less entitled to life than you and your friends.

It was explained to you several posts back.
If the rich can have abortions because they can afford afford them, to deny then to the poor because of economics is unjust.
It will be on the quiz, Alli Butthead, so make sure you study hard.

And as was pointed out, that doesnt answer the question. In fact, it completely avoids the question. Let's see if capital letters and small words help.

HOW IS ABORTION EQUAL TO SOCIAL JUSTICE?

See, most people who understand the question would realize that if abortion is illegal, neither the rich nor the poor would be having abortions. So an honest person would realize that saying that it's social justice to allow the poor to have abortions so they are the same as the rich, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Let me ask it another way:

How is it social justice for the rich to kill their children?

Oh, BTW, Glad to see you have conceded to the fact that abortion is killing babies.

 

[Avatar4321]

To me it doesn't matter how human life is defined. If it isn't life, it's a part of a woman's body and she has every right to have it removed just as she would a tumor.
If it is life, it's a foreign entity occupying a woman's body and it can stay there only by her good graces. No one else has the right to force her to be a human incubator.

I understand that to you it doesnt matter. That doesnt change the facts. A child isnt a tumor.

And nature forces women to be human incubators. Not men, not government. You can't fight the natural consequences of stupid actions.

 

[Anguille]

Still waiting to hear how killing babies equals social justice.

Just admit it, Anguille. You think there are people out there less entitled to life than you and your friends.

It was explained to you several posts back.
If the rich can have abortions because they can afford afford them, to deny then to the poor because of economics is unjust.
It will be on the quiz, Alli Butthead, so make sure you study hard.

And as was pointed out, that doesnt answer the question. In fact, it completely avoids the question. Let's see if capital letters and small words help.

HOW IS ABORTION EQUAL TO SOCIAL JUSTICE?

See, most people who understand the question would realize that if abortion is illegal, neither the rich nor the poor would be having abortions. So an honest person would realize that saying that it's social justice to allow the poor to have abortions so they are the same as the rich, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Let me ask it another way:

How is it social justice for the rich to kill their children?

Oh, BTW, Glad to see you have conceded to the fact that abortion is killing babies.

Where? For shame Avatardo. Resorting to bald faced lies. God'll get you for that.

And making abortion illegal would not mean people would not be having abortions.

 

[tigerbob]

HOW IS ABORTION EQUAL TO SOCIAL JUSTICE?

How is it social justice for the rich to kill their children?

It's not social justice for anyone to kill their children.

 

[Anguille]

To me it doesn't matter how human life is defined. If it isn't life, it's a part of a woman's body and she has every right to have it removed just as she would a tumor.
If it is life, it's a foreign entity occupying a woman's body and it can stay there only by her good graces. No one else has the right to force her to be a human incubator.

I understand that to you it doesnt matter. That doesnt change the facts. A child isnt a tumor.

And nature forces women to be human incubators. Not men, not government. You can't fight the natural consequences of stupid actions.

Shall we go back to living in nature like poor beasts, Avatroll? No civilization, no medicine, no law courts, no Bible theme parks or whatever it is you enjoy of man's creation. You'll have to give it all up, you know. Not one without the other.

 

[JBeukema]

The day Anguille actually gives an honest and intelligent resonse, I'm liable to have a heart attack form the shock

 

[Avatar4321]

Socialism and eugenics is the status quo sadly.

What the hell country do you live in?

The United States of America.

Let's face it. This nation is socialist. It's not communist and not as far to the dark side as say Europe. But we already have socialism here.

As for Eugenics, abortions been legal for decades.

 

[JBeukema]

This nation isn't socialist. Socialism and the tyrannical nanny state controlled by elitist leftists are two different things.

and stop using Communism like it's a bad word; communism isn't that different from the American ideal; do not confuse true communism with the totalitarian regimes that coopted the word

 

[Anguille]

The day Anguille actually gives an honest and intelligent resonse, I'm liable to have a heart attack form the shock

You must have died a thousand deaths already.
That makes you the walking dead.

 

[AllieBaba]

The day Anguille actually gives an honest and intelligent resonse, I'm liable to have a heart attack form the shock

It won't ever happen. If anyone is more stupid than Ravi, it's Anguille. And Ravi is particularly rabid on our right to structure our species using any means possible.

 

[JBeukema]

I find it interesting that I, who a supporter of positive eugenics and genetic engineering, which many rail against for reasons I fail to understand, turned out to be among the few to defend the unborn against slaughter, libertinism, and negative eugenics at the hands of those who consider human life a punishment upon another human being. if this does not highlight the difference between the goals and methods of positive- versus negative eugenics, I don't know what does.

 

[Avatar4321]

To see the desperate and pathetic way you guys are grasping at straws tonight is almost making me feel pity for you. If it weren't that you were such fascist monsters I would.

Calling me names might mean something if you had a clue what a fascist was.

I should take it from the lack of any serious response to me, that you really dont comphrend how ridiculous it is to pretend you care about a child's psychological welfare when your solution to their problems is killing them? Admit it, you don't care for the child. The only thing you care about is ensuring that you have the opportunity to kill your offspring at your own leisure.

Are you honestly saying that if your mom didnt want to have you and ended up having you anyway that you would rather be dead? You wouldnt be grateful that someone wanted you alive? If you think it's desperate and pathetic to point out how absurd your arguments are, and that somehow you are more intelligent than anyone else because you can make nonsense arguments, then you have alot more issues than most of the people I work for. Which is saying alot.

Wait .... before I label you with that, tell me again if you think the government has a right to tell a woman if she can have an abortion or not.

What government doesnt have an interest in stopping people from taking away the life of another person? Governments main objective is to protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And you honestly think a government has no obligation or duty to stop individuals from taking away someone elses life, liberty, and their ability to pursue happiness?

I get you guys mixed up and want to be sure I understand your positions. I have no beef with you if abortion is something you'd rather not do yourself. But if you think you have any business butting into another woman's private life and dictating to her what she can or cannot do about her pregnancy, then you' re a bunch of woman and child hating hypocrites.

I understand this is an emotional topic for you. But you will never, ever, in a million years have a right to kill your offspring. You don't have the right to take someone elses life, liberty, or ability to pursue happiness. Your rights end when they infringe upon someone elses.

You don't have a right to end your pregnancy. You have a responsibility to carry it out and raise that child. You have the responsibility to nuture and care for that child. That child has a right to a mother and a father. And you dont get to pretend as though you're the victim when you are killing other people and taking their rights away so you can avoid your responsibility.

Call me names all you want. Label me the worst things in the world. It's not going to bother me. Because I am not a victim. I dont want to be a victim and Im never going to pretend Im a victim. Im not going to give you that kind of power over me. So what's it going to prove? I know who I am. You honestly think name calling is going to change that?

Rights and responsibilities are inseperably linked. If there is no responsibility, there is no right.

 

[eagleseven]

Anguille, let me see if I understand you correctly...

You believe that those who oppose abortion are:

1. Moronic
2. Desperate
3. Nazis
4. Fascists
5. Misogynists
6. Woman-Haters
7. Creeps
8. Fundamentalists
9. Whack-jobs
10. Child-haters
11. Psychological Torturers


This really encourages dialog and understanding, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Anguille]

To see the desperate and pathetic way you guys are grasping at straws tonight is almost making me feel pity for you. If it weren't that you were such fascist monsters I would.

Calling me names might mean something if you had a clue what a fascist was.

I should take it from the lack of any serious response to me, that you really dont comphrend how ridiculous it is to pretend you care about a child's psychological welfare when your solution to their problems is killing them? Admit it, you don't care for the child. The only thing you care about is ensuring that you have the opportunity to kill your offspring at your own leisure.

Are you honestly saying that if your mom didnt want to have you and ended up having you anyway that you would rather be dead? You wouldnt be grateful that someone wanted you alive? If you think it's desperate and pathetic to point out how absurd your arguments are, and that somehow you are more intelligent than anyone else because you can make nonsense arguments, then you have alot more issues than most of the people I work for. Which is saying alot.

Wait .... before I label you with that, tell me again if you think the government has a right to tell a woman if she can have an abortion or not.

What government doesnt have an interest in stopping people from taking away the life of another person? Governments main objective is to protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And you honestly think a government has no obligation or duty to stop individuals from taking away someone elses life, liberty, and their ability to pursue happiness?

I get you guys mixed up and want to be sure I understand your positions. I have no beef with you if abortion is something you'd rather not do yourself. But if you think you have any business butting into another woman's private life and dictating to her what she can or cannot do about her pregnancy, then you' re a bunch of woman and child hating hypocrites.

I understand this is an emotional topic for you. But you will never, ever, in a million years have a right to kill your offspring. You don't have the right to take someone elses life, liberty, or ability to pursue happiness. Your rights end when they infringe upon someone elses.

You don't have a right to end your pregnancy. You have a responsibility to carry it out and raise that child. You have the responsibility to nuture and care for that child. That child has a right to a mother and a father. And you dont get to pretend as though you're the victim when you are killing other people and taking their rights away so you can avoid your responsibility.

Call me names all you want. Label me the worst things in the world. It's not going to bother me. Because I am not a victim. I dont want to be a victim and Im never going to pretend Im a victim. Im not going to give you that kind of power over me. So what's it going to prove? I know who I am. You honestly think name calling is going to change that?

Rights and responsibilities are inseperably linked. If there is no responsibility, there is no right.

You're having a melt down. Seriously, take time out for your own sake.