An attempt for the left to get into the mind of a Conservative

[candycorn]

I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.

Also as a Conservative, I was outraged by previous riots that were far more massive and happened all across the country throughout 2020, causing hundreds of millions of dollars, burning down so many citizens' livelihoods, sending hundreds of police officers to the hospital with cracked skulls from bricks, and killing 40+ people across the country. Multiple government buildings were seized or burned, police were withdrawn so that citizens were left to fend for themselves. Again... let that sink in... police left their citizens to the mob to let them fend for themselves. Yet, the rioters were rationalized, their criminal acts overlooked and blamed on a system. They were bailed out of jail by the likes of Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's team, and other prominent Democrats.

I notice, observably and unbiasedly, that the MSM rationalized and/or supported the BLM riots, but now depict this specific riot as worse than Pearl Harbor. I notice that the Democrats were radio silent during the BLM riots, but now are powerfully condemning these riots.

I see this. We all see this. It is an objective, provable double standard. And thus when, as a Conservative, I'm lectured about how I have to own these horrible people who I condemn, yet BLM rioters who committed the same or far greater atrocities were just in their criminality???

I don't buy it, and I call politics. Conservatives, by and large, denounce all riots. We, in Conservatism, are glad to have Democrats and leftists finally condemning political violence in America. We simply wonder what took you so long to do it, and look forward to your consistency when people of any color commit immoral criminal acts in America.

This is true unification.

BLM rioted over real world grievances. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those took part should have been arrested with upgraded charges. I said so at the time.

The right wing rioted over a myth. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those that took part should be arrested with upgraded charges.

What "real world grievances"? LMAO!!!

Systemic racism is a myth.

Cops who kneel on the necks of black men for 8 minutes isn't a myth.
Systemic racism does exist as well.

It was one cop. And all agreed he was bad. When a black man commits a crime. I do not blame all black men for it. When Anthony Wiener sends his junk to women I dont condemn all politicians for it.

Really? What rights do I have that a black man or woman does not? What can I legally do that a black man or woman cannot? Do tell.

Ever heard the name Brian Encina?

Nope. Answer my question. If you’re a black woman or man, what can you not legally do that I can?

He is the one who grabbed Sandra Bland out of her car which eventually lead to her death in the Waller County jail.

Johnathan Mattingly? Ever heard of him? He's the cop who shot Breona Taylor.

Michael Slager? He is the guy who shot Walter Scott in the back while "fearing for his life".

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Botham Jean?

He was murdered by an off duty Dallas Police officer in his own home. His crime? Being in the apartment the off duty cop thought was hers. She got a whopping 10 years for killing an unarmed black man in his own home. Had the DA charged her with B&E, she probably would have gotten a stiffer sentence for that rather than the 10 spot on a fucking MURDER CONVICTION she did get

Can they not do things that we can? No...they actually get to do things we can't. They get to live in fear of overzealous policing and a court system that doesn't give two shits about it.

You are giving me one off examples. We have 330 million people in the US. In terms of Breona Taylor, she was used as a human shield by her boyfriend, who fired first.

In terms of Botham Jean the judge was African American.

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Botham Jean's murderer got 10 years.
Please tell us that you honestly believe that Botham Jean would have gotten 10 years for killing Amber Guyger if the roles had been reversed.

You arent answering my question. The judge was African American. Her apartment was directly above his. Hallways look identical. Jury gave her 10 years and judge who is again African American didn't overturn it. His brother forgave her. Now will you answer my question or keep dodging it?

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Racism isn't codified by statute....so no...there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do.

Your turn...

Do you honestly believe a black man would have gotten 10 years for murdering an unarmed white woman--shooting her dead--in her own home?

Simple question. I'm sure you have your tap shoes on already. Start dancing.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Jesus. Just get to your point.

There isn't one.

 

[Leo123]

Democrats hate all rioting thugs regardless of political affiliation. Politics & policy is what the elections & protest are for. But riots & violent mobs are an act of war! The traitorous thugs must be put down hard or democracy is finished!

What bullshit, the lame stream media, Pelosi and the Democrat leaders all discounted the summer riots calling them 'peaceful protests.' Kamala Harris even encouraged them by urging them not to stop. She and Democrats knew damn well rioting was happening. All they did is call riots 'protests' even though we could see with our own eyes the mayhem right there in videos taken by on-scene observers.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.

Also as a Conservative, I was outraged by previous riots that were far more massive and happened all across the country throughout 2020, causing hundreds of millions of dollars, burning down so many citizens' livelihoods, sending hundreds of police officers to the hospital with cracked skulls from bricks, and killing 40+ people across the country. Multiple government buildings were seized or burned, police were withdrawn so that citizens were left to fend for themselves. Again... let that sink in... police left their citizens to the mob to let them fend for themselves. Yet, the rioters were rationalized, their criminal acts overlooked and blamed on a system. They were bailed out of jail by the likes of Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's team, and other prominent Democrats.

I notice, observably and unbiasedly, that the MSM rationalized and/or supported the BLM riots, but now depict this specific riot as worse than Pearl Harbor. I notice that the Democrats were radio silent during the BLM riots, but now are powerfully condemning these riots.

I see this. We all see this. It is an objective, provable double standard. And thus when, as a Conservative, I'm lectured about how I have to own these horrible people who I condemn, yet BLM rioters who committed the same or far greater atrocities were just in their criminality???

I don't buy it, and I call politics. Conservatives, by and large, denounce all riots. We, in Conservatism, are glad to have Democrats and leftists finally condemning political violence in America. We simply wonder what took you so long to do it, and look forward to your consistency when people of any color commit immoral criminal acts in America.

This is true unification.

BLM rioted over real world grievances. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those took part should have been arrested with upgraded charges. I said so at the time.

The right wing rioted over a myth. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those that took part should be arrested with upgraded charges.

What "real world grievances"? LMAO!!!

Systemic racism is a myth.

Cops who kneel on the necks of black men for 8 minutes isn't a myth.
Systemic racism does exist as well.

It was one cop. And all agreed he was bad. When a black man commits a crime. I do not blame all black men for it. When Anthony Wiener sends his junk to women I dont condemn all politicians for it.

Really? What rights do I have that a black man or woman does not? What can I legally do that a black man or woman cannot? Do tell.

Ever heard the name Brian Encina?

Nope. Answer my question. If you’re a black woman or man, what can you not legally do that I can?

He is the one who grabbed Sandra Bland out of her car which eventually lead to her death in the Waller County jail.

Johnathan Mattingly? Ever heard of him? He's the cop who shot Breona Taylor.

Michael Slager? He is the guy who shot Walter Scott in the back while "fearing for his life".

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Botham Jean?

He was murdered by an off duty Dallas Police officer in his own home. His crime? Being in the apartment the off duty cop thought was hers. She got a whopping 10 years for killing an unarmed black man in his own home. Had the DA charged her with B&E, she probably would have gotten a stiffer sentence for that rather than the 10 spot on a fucking MURDER CONVICTION she did get

Can they not do things that we can? No...they actually get to do things we can't. They get to live in fear of overzealous policing and a court system that doesn't give two shits about it.

You are giving me one off examples. We have 330 million people in the US. In terms of Breona Taylor, she was used as a human shield by her boyfriend, who fired first.

In terms of Botham Jean the judge was African American.

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Botham Jean's murderer got 10 years.
Please tell us that you honestly believe that Botham Jean would have gotten 10 years for killing Amber Guyger if the roles had been reversed.

You arent answering my question. The judge was African American. Her apartment was directly above his. Hallways look identical. Jury gave her 10 years and judge who is again African American didn't overturn it. His brother forgave her. Now will you answer my question or keep dodging it?

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Racism isn't codified by statute....so no...there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do.

Your turn...

Do you honestly believe a black man would have gotten 10 years for murdering an unarmed white woman--shooting her dead--in her own home?

Simple question. I'm sure you have your tap shoes on already. Start dancing.

So if they have the same EXACT rights as I do then there is no systemic racism.

This is the DEFINITION of racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

You just admitted that there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do that I can do in America.


Case Closed

To answer your question:

If it were a black woman who was a police officer and he was a white male then YES. It would have been the same sentence. Maybe even more lenient. If Amber were a man then the sentence would have been more than 10 years.

 

[Circe]

I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.



I think you need to figure out what side you are on. You are fence-sitting. You claim to be a conservative, but inveigh against us, call us immoral monsters and such. I don't think you are a conservative at all.

 

[Lesh]

Democrats hate all rioting thugs regardless of political affiliation. Politics & policy is what the elections & protest are for. But riots & violent mobs are an act of war! The traitorous thugs must be put down hard!

Sure, we saw that when you fricken loons posted bail for the "thugs" that were arrested last summer...dumbass.

I never posted bail for anyone in my life you fucktard! I vote against deficit exploding job killing liars that make up the Republican party! The treasonous traitors should be stripped of all wealth, jailed or executed.

Kamila did, and you voted for her.

Reminder: Kamala Harris Helped Bail Out Criminals Burning Down American Cities

Harris posted bail for PROTESTERS who had been arrested. NOT rioters

 

[Circe]

I see Pat Buchanan simping for the traitors. There are plenty of so-called "conservatives" who are betraying America by having anything good to say about this lynch mob coup.

"Simping"? God knows what that means. Unless you're just a leftist, which I would guess, I suppose you are another one like OP who has no idea what side he's on. Isn't it uncomfortable sitting on that narrow fence rail?

 

[colfax_m]

I’ve found that conservatives think, by and large, that there is no systemic racism despite all evidence to the contrary and that the election was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary.

We stopped living in the same worlds a long time ago.

 

[Nostra]

Kneeling on neck vs. zero evidence of mass voter fraud.

Your move.

1. Fact: Kneeling on neck is (or was) a legal tactic, and is used on people of all races.

For 8 minutes? No.

So, it's non-racial.

Yes. Yes it was.

2. Fact: George Floyd was already yelling "I can't breathe" in the car, before he was on the ground at all, so his lack of ability to breathe wasn't simply because of the cop. The amount of drugs in his system can easily explain his death.

So the cop took a black man who can't breath--who was handcuffed--and knealt on his neck? Wow.

So, the supposed reason for Floyd's death was already present before any kneeling on neck happened.

3. Fact: Police killing blacks, especially unarmed, is extremely rare. Only 13 unarmed blacks died in 2019. Given the terrorizing rhetoric by the left and media that blacks should fear leaving their houses and are being exterminated by police, by all data accounts that's a false claim. Yet, it's what drove the BLM riots and protests.

Only 13.

So, you have 2 causes, both driven by feelings that don't align with data.

Boom. Your move.

I win. Checkmate.

LMAO. You didn't do anything. You can't prove this was racial at all. By all means, do so.

And yes, a 0.00000000000000000001% rate of death is not worthy of terrorizing an entire race to fear leaving their house or being addressed by an institution of law and order.

8 minutes... The cop murdered Floyd.

That really happened.

Voter fraud on a massive scale to sway an election...did not.

Again. I win.

And he was charged.

Does that justify 6 months of riots, looting, rape and murder?

 

[candycorn]

I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.

Also as a Conservative, I was outraged by previous riots that were far more massive and happened all across the country throughout 2020, causing hundreds of millions of dollars, burning down so many citizens' livelihoods, sending hundreds of police officers to the hospital with cracked skulls from bricks, and killing 40+ people across the country. Multiple government buildings were seized or burned, police were withdrawn so that citizens were left to fend for themselves. Again... let that sink in... police left their citizens to the mob to let them fend for themselves. Yet, the rioters were rationalized, their criminal acts overlooked and blamed on a system. They were bailed out of jail by the likes of Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's team, and other prominent Democrats.

I notice, observably and unbiasedly, that the MSM rationalized and/or supported the BLM riots, but now depict this specific riot as worse than Pearl Harbor. I notice that the Democrats were radio silent during the BLM riots, but now are powerfully condemning these riots.

I see this. We all see this. It is an objective, provable double standard. And thus when, as a Conservative, I'm lectured about how I have to own these horrible people who I condemn, yet BLM rioters who committed the same or far greater atrocities were just in their criminality???

I don't buy it, and I call politics. Conservatives, by and large, denounce all riots. We, in Conservatism, are glad to have Democrats and leftists finally condemning political violence in America. We simply wonder what took you so long to do it, and look forward to your consistency when people of any color commit immoral criminal acts in America.

This is true unification.

BLM rioted over real world grievances. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those took part should have been arrested with upgraded charges. I said so at the time.

The right wing rioted over a myth. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those that took part should be arrested with upgraded charges.

What "real world grievances"? LMAO!!!

Systemic racism is a myth.

Cops who kneel on the necks of black men for 8 minutes isn't a myth.
Systemic racism does exist as well.

It was one cop. And all agreed he was bad. When a black man commits a crime. I do not blame all black men for it. When Anthony Wiener sends his junk to women I dont condemn all politicians for it.

Really? What rights do I have that a black man or woman does not? What can I legally do that a black man or woman cannot? Do tell.

Ever heard the name Brian Encina?

Nope. Answer my question. If you’re a black woman or man, what can you not legally do that I can?

He is the one who grabbed Sandra Bland out of her car which eventually lead to her death in the Waller County jail.

Johnathan Mattingly? Ever heard of him? He's the cop who shot Breona Taylor.

Michael Slager? He is the guy who shot Walter Scott in the back while "fearing for his life".

View attachment 441806

Botham Jean?

He was murdered by an off duty Dallas Police officer in his own home. His crime? Being in the apartment the off duty cop thought was hers. She got a whopping 10 years for killing an unarmed black man in his own home. Had the DA charged her with B&E, she probably would have gotten a stiffer sentence for that rather than the 10 spot on a fucking MURDER CONVICTION she did get

Can they not do things that we can? No...they actually get to do things we can't. They get to live in fear of overzealous policing and a court system that doesn't give two shits about it.

You are giving me one off examples. We have 330 million people in the US. In terms of Breona Taylor, she was used as a human shield by her boyfriend, who fired first.

In terms of Botham Jean the judge was African American.

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Botham Jean's murderer got 10 years.
Please tell us that you honestly believe that Botham Jean would have gotten 10 years for killing Amber Guyger if the roles had been reversed.

You arent answering my question. The judge was African American. Her apartment was directly above his. Hallways look identical. Jury gave her 10 years and judge who is again African American didn't overturn it. His brother forgave her. Now will you answer my question or keep dodging it?

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Racism isn't codified by statute....so no...there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do.

Your turn...

Do you honestly believe a black man would have gotten 10 years for murdering an unarmed white woman--shooting her dead--in her own home?

Simple question. I'm sure you have your tap shoes on already. Start dancing.

So if they have the same EXACT rights as I do then there is no systemic racism.

This is the DEFINITION of racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

You just admitted that there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do that I can do in America.


Case Closed

To answer your question:

If it were a black woman who was a police officer and he was a white male then YES. It would have been the same sentence. Maybe even more lenient. If Amber were a man then the sentence would have been more than 10 years.

Racism isn't codified...but as the Guyger verdict points out...it's alive and well in our system.

I hope you stretched before you started your tap dance there...so predictable.

 

[Nostra]

I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.

Also as a Conservative, I was outraged by previous riots that were far more massive and happened all across the country throughout 2020, causing hundreds of millions of dollars, burning down so many citizens' livelihoods, sending hundreds of police officers to the hospital with cracked skulls from bricks, and killing 40+ people across the country. Multiple government buildings were seized or burned, police were withdrawn so that citizens were left to fend for themselves. Again... let that sink in... police left their citizens to the mob to let them fend for themselves. Yet, the rioters were rationalized, their criminal acts overlooked and blamed on a system. They were bailed out of jail by the likes of Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's team, and other prominent Democrats.

I notice, observably and unbiasedly, that the MSM rationalized and/or supported the BLM riots, but now depict this specific riot as worse than Pearl Harbor. I notice that the Democrats were radio silent during the BLM riots, but now are powerfully condemning these riots.

I see this. We all see this. It is an objective, provable double standard. And thus when, as a Conservative, I'm lectured about how I have to own these horrible people who I condemn, yet BLM rioters who committed the same or far greater atrocities were just in their criminality???

I don't buy it, and I call politics. Conservatives, by and large, denounce all riots. We, in Conservatism, are glad to have Democrats and leftists finally condemning political violence in America. We simply wonder what took you so long to do it, and look forward to your consistency when people of any color commit immoral criminal acts in America.

This is true unification.

BLM rioted over real world grievances. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those took part should have been arrested with upgraded charges. I said so at the time.

The right wing rioted over a myth. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those that took part should be arrested with upgraded charges.

What "real world grievances"? LMAO!!!

Systemic racism is a myth.

Cops who kneel on the necks of black men for 8 minutes isn't a myth.
Systemic racism does exist as well.

It was one cop. And all agreed he was bad. When a black man commits a crime. I do not blame all black men for it. When Anthony Wiener sends his junk to women I dont condemn all politicians for it.

Really? What rights do I have that a black man or woman does not? What can I legally do that a black man or woman cannot? Do tell.

Ever heard the name Brian Encina?

Is that one of the 1500 murdered black kids in Chicago you don’t care about?

 

[candycorn]

Kneeling on neck vs. zero evidence of mass voter fraud.

Your move.

1. Fact: Kneeling on neck is (or was) a legal tactic, and is used on people of all races.

For 8 minutes? No.

So, it's non-racial.

Yes. Yes it was.

2. Fact: George Floyd was already yelling "I can't breathe" in the car, before he was on the ground at all, so his lack of ability to breathe wasn't simply because of the cop. The amount of drugs in his system can easily explain his death.

So the cop took a black man who can't breath--who was handcuffed--and knealt on his neck? Wow.

So, the supposed reason for Floyd's death was already present before any kneeling on neck happened.

3. Fact: Police killing blacks, especially unarmed, is extremely rare. Only 13 unarmed blacks died in 2019. Given the terrorizing rhetoric by the left and media that blacks should fear leaving their houses and are being exterminated by police, by all data accounts that's a false claim. Yet, it's what drove the BLM riots and protests.

Only 13.

So, you have 2 causes, both driven by feelings that don't align with data.

Boom. Your move.

I win. Checkmate.

LMAO. You didn't do anything. You can't prove this was racial at all. By all means, do so.

And yes, a 0.00000000000000000001% rate of death is not worthy of terrorizing an entire race to fear leaving their house or being addressed by an institution of law and order.

8 minutes... The cop murdered Floyd.

That really happened.

Voter fraud on a massive scale to sway an election...did not.

Again. I win.

And he was charged.

Does that justify 6 months of riots, looting, rape and murder?

Nothing justifies the rioting. I'm just saying there was a legitimate grievance. Unlike the imaginary voter fraud you believe took place.

 

[Nostra]

Democrats hate all rioting thugs regardless of political affiliation. Politics & policy is what the elections & protest are for. But riots & violent mobs are an act of war! The traitorous thugs must be put down hard!

Sure, we saw that when you fricken loons posted bail for the "thugs" that were arrested last summer...dumbass.

I never posted bail for anyone in my life you fucktard! I vote against deficit exploding job killing liars that make up the Republican party! The treasonous traitors should be stripped of all wealth, jailed or executed.

Kamila did, and you voted for her.

Reminder: Kamala Harris Helped Bail Out Criminals Burning Down American Cities

Harris posted bail for PROTESTERS who had been arrested. NOT rioters

Yes she did.

 

[candycorn]

I’ve found that conservatives think, by and large, that there is no systemic racism despite all evidence to the contrary and that the election was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary.

We stopped living in the same worlds a long time ago.

Very true. It reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men when Kevin Bacon's character asks the marine (Played by Noah Wylie before ER) about the code red and asks him to turn to the manual where the code red is described. Amazingly, the highly illegal item isn't codified in the manual so clearly it doesn't exist...right!

 

[Nostra]

I’ve found that conservatives think, by and large, that there is no systemic racism despite all evidence to the contrary and that the election was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary.

We stopped living in the same worlds a long time ago.

Very true. It reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men when Kevin Bacon's character asks the marine (Played by Noah Wylie before ER) about the code red and asks him to turn to the manual where the code red is described. Amazingly, the highly illegal item isn't codified in the manual so clearly it doesn't exist...right!

So, for your evidence you bring make believe.

Nice!

 

[candycorn]

I’ve found that conservatives think, by and large, that there is no systemic racism despite all evidence to the contrary and that the election was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary.

We stopped living in the same worlds a long time ago.

Very true. It reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men when Kevin Bacon's character asks the marine (Played by Noah Wylie before ER) about the code red and asks him to turn to the manual where the code red is described. Amazingly, the highly illegal item isn't codified in the manual so clearly it doesn't exist...right!

So, for your evidence you bring make believe.

Nice!

I did it in homage to you....you only deal in the make believe .

I was pointing out how not every behavior humans have is codified in our laws. Perhaps the point sailed through one ear and out the other since there was nothing in between to stop it.

 

[Nostra]

I’ve found that conservatives think, by and large, that there is no systemic racism despite all evidence to the contrary and that the election was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary.

We stopped living in the same worlds a long time ago.

Very true. It reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men when Kevin Bacon's character asks the marine (Played by Noah Wylie before ER) about the code red and asks him to turn to the manual where the code red is described. Amazingly, the highly illegal item isn't codified in the manual so clearly it doesn't exist...right!

So, for your evidence you bring make believe.

Nice!

I did it in homage to you....you only deal in the make believe .

I was pointing out how not every behavior humans have is codified in our laws. Perhaps the point sailed through one ear and out the other since there was nothing in between to stop it.

you are delusional.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.

Also as a Conservative, I was outraged by previous riots that were far more massive and happened all across the country throughout 2020, causing hundreds of millions of dollars, burning down so many citizens' livelihoods, sending hundreds of police officers to the hospital with cracked skulls from bricks, and killing 40+ people across the country. Multiple government buildings were seized or burned, police were withdrawn so that citizens were left to fend for themselves. Again... let that sink in... police left their citizens to the mob to let them fend for themselves. Yet, the rioters were rationalized, their criminal acts overlooked and blamed on a system. They were bailed out of jail by the likes of Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's team, and other prominent Democrats.

I notice, observably and unbiasedly, that the MSM rationalized and/or supported the BLM riots, but now depict this specific riot as worse than Pearl Harbor. I notice that the Democrats were radio silent during the BLM riots, but now are powerfully condemning these riots.

I see this. We all see this. It is an objective, provable double standard. And thus when, as a Conservative, I'm lectured about how I have to own these horrible people who I condemn, yet BLM rioters who committed the same or far greater atrocities were just in their criminality???

I don't buy it, and I call politics. Conservatives, by and large, denounce all riots. We, in Conservatism, are glad to have Democrats and leftists finally condemning political violence in America. We simply wonder what took you so long to do it, and look forward to your consistency when people of any color commit immoral criminal acts in America.

This is true unification.

BLM rioted over real world grievances. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those took part should have been arrested with upgraded charges. I said so at the time.

The right wing rioted over a myth. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those that took part should be arrested with upgraded charges.

What "real world grievances"? LMAO!!!

Systemic racism is a myth.

Cops who kneel on the necks of black men for 8 minutes isn't a myth.
Systemic racism does exist as well.

It was one cop. And all agreed he was bad. When a black man commits a crime. I do not blame all black men for it. When Anthony Wiener sends his junk to women I dont condemn all politicians for it.

Really? What rights do I have that a black man or woman does not? What can I legally do that a black man or woman cannot? Do tell.

Ever heard the name Brian Encina?

Nope. Answer my question. If you’re a black woman or man, what can you not legally do that I can?

He is the one who grabbed Sandra Bland out of her car which eventually lead to her death in the Waller County jail.

Johnathan Mattingly? Ever heard of him? He's the cop who shot Breona Taylor.

Michael Slager? He is the guy who shot Walter Scott in the back while "fearing for his life".

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Botham Jean?

He was murdered by an off duty Dallas Police officer in his own home. His crime? Being in the apartment the off duty cop thought was hers. She got a whopping 10 years for killing an unarmed black man in his own home. Had the DA charged her with B&E, she probably would have gotten a stiffer sentence for that rather than the 10 spot on a fucking MURDER CONVICTION she did get

Can they not do things that we can? No...they actually get to do things we can't. They get to live in fear of overzealous policing and a court system that doesn't give two shits about it.

You are giving me one off examples. We have 330 million people in the US. In terms of Breona Taylor, she was used as a human shield by her boyfriend, who fired first.

In terms of Botham Jean the judge was African American.

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Botham Jean's murderer got 10 years.
Please tell us that you honestly believe that Botham Jean would have gotten 10 years for killing Amber Guyger if the roles had been reversed.

You arent answering my question. The judge was African American. Her apartment was directly above his. Hallways look identical. Jury gave her 10 years and judge who is again African American didn't overturn it. His brother forgave her. Now will you answer my question or keep dodging it?

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Racism isn't codified by statute....so no...there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do.

Your turn...

Do you honestly believe a black man would have gotten 10 years for murdering an unarmed white woman--shooting her dead--in her own home?

Simple question. I'm sure you have your tap shoes on already. Start dancing.

So if they have the same EXACT rights as I do then there is no systemic racism.

This is the DEFINITION of racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

You just admitted that there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do that I can do in America.


Case Closed

To answer your question:

If it were a black woman who was a police officer and he was a white male then YES. It would have been the same sentence. Maybe even more lenient. If Amber were a man then the sentence would have been more than 10 years.

Racism isn't codified...but as the Guyger verdict points out...it's alive and well in our system.

I hope you stretched before you started your tap dance there...so predictable.

HOW!!!???? The judge was African American!?!?!?!?!?!?

You leftists are crazy. Tap dance?

I replaced white female cop with black female cop and black male victim to white male victim? You are a very stupid person. And a leftist. Tell me again, where am I dancing. You are the one dancing as I proved you wrong.

 

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Kneeling on neck vs. zero evidence of mass voter fraud.

Your move.

1. Fact: Kneeling on neck is (or was) a legal tactic, and is used on people of all races.

For 8 minutes? No.

So, it's non-racial.

Yes. Yes it was.

2. Fact: George Floyd was already yelling "I can't breathe" in the car, before he was on the ground at all, so his lack of ability to breathe wasn't simply because of the cop. The amount of drugs in his system can easily explain his death.

So the cop took a black man who can't breath--who was handcuffed--and knealt on his neck? Wow.

So, the supposed reason for Floyd's death was already present before any kneeling on neck happened.

3. Fact: Police killing blacks, especially unarmed, is extremely rare. Only 13 unarmed blacks died in 2019. Given the terrorizing rhetoric by the left and media that blacks should fear leaving their houses and are being exterminated by police, by all data accounts that's a false claim. Yet, it's what drove the BLM riots and protests.

Only 13.

So, you have 2 causes, both driven by feelings that don't align with data.

Boom. Your move.

I win. Checkmate.

LMAO. You didn't do anything. You can't prove this was racial at all. By all means, do so.

And yes, a 0.00000000000000000001% rate of death is not worthy of terrorizing an entire race to fear leaving their house or being addressed by an institution of law and order.

8 minutes... The cop murdered Floyd.

That really happened.

Voter fraud on a massive scale to sway an election...did not.

Again. I win.

And he was charged.

Does that justify 6 months of riots, looting, rape and murder?

Nothing justifies the rioting. I'm just saying there was a legitimate grievance. Unlike the imaginary voter fraud you believe took place.

What grievance? You just a black man and or woman has the same exact rights as I do?

 

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I'm a proud conservative. That comes with both political and social views, although not all cliche and not all at any sort of widespread intensity.

As a Conservative, you bet I back the police. I believe in individual responsibility. These few hundred immoral monsters committed an act of domestic terrorism, costing multiple lives lost, including one of their own from defensive fire. The rioters are being arrested and will likely receive absolutely no assistance (nor should they), and get lengthy prison time. I consider it a dark day for America, but one among MANY that have happened recently.

Also as a Conservative, I was outraged by previous riots that were far more massive and happened all across the country throughout 2020, causing hundreds of millions of dollars, burning down so many citizens' livelihoods, sending hundreds of police officers to the hospital with cracked skulls from bricks, and killing 40+ people across the country. Multiple government buildings were seized or burned, police were withdrawn so that citizens were left to fend for themselves. Again... let that sink in... police left their citizens to the mob to let them fend for themselves. Yet, the rioters were rationalized, their criminal acts overlooked and blamed on a system. They were bailed out of jail by the likes of Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's team, and other prominent Democrats.

I notice, observably and unbiasedly, that the MSM rationalized and/or supported the BLM riots, but now depict this specific riot as worse than Pearl Harbor. I notice that the Democrats were radio silent during the BLM riots, but now are powerfully condemning these riots.

I see this. We all see this. It is an objective, provable double standard. And thus when, as a Conservative, I'm lectured about how I have to own these horrible people who I condemn, yet BLM rioters who committed the same or far greater atrocities were just in their criminality???

I don't buy it, and I call politics. Conservatives, by and large, denounce all riots. We, in Conservatism, are glad to have Democrats and leftists finally condemning political violence in America. We simply wonder what took you so long to do it, and look forward to your consistency when people of any color commit immoral criminal acts in America.

This is true unification.

BLM rioted over real world grievances. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those took part should have been arrested with upgraded charges. I said so at the time.

The right wing rioted over a myth. The violence was wrong, the looting was wrong. And those that took part should be arrested with upgraded charges.

What "real world grievances"? LMAO!!!

Systemic racism is a myth.

Cops who kneel on the necks of black men for 8 minutes isn't a myth.
Systemic racism does exist as well.

It was one cop. And all agreed he was bad. When a black man commits a crime. I do not blame all black men for it. When Anthony Wiener sends his junk to women I dont condemn all politicians for it.

Really? What rights do I have that a black man or woman does not? What can I legally do that a black man or woman cannot? Do tell.

Ever heard the name Brian Encina?

Nope. Answer my question. If you’re a black woman or man, what can you not legally do that I can?

He is the one who grabbed Sandra Bland out of her car which eventually lead to her death in the Waller County jail.

Johnathan Mattingly? Ever heard of him? He's the cop who shot Breona Taylor.

Michael Slager? He is the guy who shot Walter Scott in the back while "fearing for his life".

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Botham Jean?

He was murdered by an off duty Dallas Police officer in his own home. His crime? Being in the apartment the off duty cop thought was hers. She got a whopping 10 years for killing an unarmed black man in his own home. Had the DA charged her with B&E, she probably would have gotten a stiffer sentence for that rather than the 10 spot on a fucking MURDER CONVICTION she did get

Can they not do things that we can? No...they actually get to do things we can't. They get to live in fear of overzealous policing and a court system that doesn't give two shits about it.

You are giving me one off examples. We have 330 million people in the US. In terms of Breona Taylor, she was used as a human shield by her boyfriend, who fired first.

In terms of Botham Jean the judge was African American.

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Botham Jean's murderer got 10 years.
Please tell us that you honestly believe that Botham Jean would have gotten 10 years for killing Amber Guyger if the roles had been reversed.

You arent answering my question. The judge was African American. Her apartment was directly above his. Hallways look identical. Jury gave her 10 years and judge who is again African American didn't overturn it. His brother forgave her. Now will you answer my question or keep dodging it?

Again what can a black man and or woman legally not do in America that I can?

Racism isn't codified by statute....so no...there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do.

Your turn...

Do you honestly believe a black man would have gotten 10 years for murdering an unarmed white woman--shooting her dead--in her own home?

Simple question. I'm sure you have your tap shoes on already. Start dancing.

So if they have the same EXACT rights as I do then there is no systemic racism.

This is the DEFINITION of racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

You just admitted that there is nothing that a black man or woman can't do that I can do in America.


Case Closed

To answer your question:

If it were a black woman who was a police officer and he was a white male then YES. It would have been the same sentence. Maybe even more lenient. If Amber were a man then the sentence would have been more than 10 years.

Racism isn't codified...but as the Guyger verdict points out...it's alive and well in our system.

I hope you stretched before you started your tap dance there...so predictable.

HOW!!!???? The judge was African American!?!?!?!?!?!?

You leftists are crazy. Tap dance?

I replaced white female cop with black female cop and black male victim to white male victim? You are a very stupid person. And a leftist. Tell me again, where am I dancing. You are the one dancing as I proved you wrong.

The question was if Botham Jean had killed Amber Guyger in her apartment...would have have gotten 10 years.