Ambivalent1
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So all you have is "Nuh-Uh"? I find it odd that you folks are reflexively incapable of admitting that your "leaders" are wrong about ANYTHING.
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Be honest republicans: if Obama had declared any negative press of him as “fake news”, you...
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So all you have is "Nuh-Uh"? I find it odd that you folks are reflexively incapable of admitting that your "leaders" are wrong about ANYTHING.
jknowgood
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Truth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.You tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.Fake newsLol, Obama himself told a lady her mother under his plan, would get pain pills instead of the pace maker she needed to live. Sounds like a death sentence to me.Obama said that Republican claims that Obamacare would have Death Panels..... Was Fake News
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
rightwinger
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Provide us the context of what Obama was responding toYou tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.Fake newsLol, Obama himself told a lady her mother under his plan, would get pain pills instead of the pace maker she needed to live. Sounds like a death sentence to me.Obama said that Republican claims that Obamacare would have Death Panels..... Was Fake News
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
So all you have is "Nuh-Uh"? I find it odd that you folks are reflexively incapable of admitting that your "leaders" are wrong about ANYTHING.
You don’t install a pacemaker in a 90 year old terminally ill woman
What are you hiding
rightwinger
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Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.You tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.Fake newsLol, Obama himself told a lady her mother under his plan, would get pain pills instead of the pace maker she needed to live. Sounds like a death sentence to me.Obama said that Republican claims that Obamacare would have Death Panels..... Was Fake News
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
jknowgood
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I see you didn't watch the video. The woman said her mother and her doctor thought it was a good idea to do it. But ole doc Obama thought a pain pill would be a better option. He even said she could live out her last days without pain. How compassionate of him.Provide us the context of what Obama was responding toYou tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.Fake newsLol, Obama himself told a lady her mother under his plan, would get pain pills instead of the pace maker she needed to live. Sounds like a death sentence to me.
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
So all you have is "Nuh-Uh"? I find it odd that you folks are reflexively incapable of admitting that your "leaders" are wrong about ANYTHING.
You don’t install a pacemaker in a 90 year old terminally ill woman
What are you hiding
jknowgood
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The doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.You tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.Fake newsLol, Obama himself told a lady her mother under his plan, would get pain pills instead of the pace maker she needed to live. Sounds like a death sentence to me.
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
rightwinger
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The real story
Jane Sturm told the story of her nearly 100-year-old mother, who was originally denied a pacemaker because of her age. She eventually got one, but only after seeking out another doctor.
"Outside the medical criteria," Sturm asked, "is there a consideration that can be given for a certain spirit ... and quality of life?"
"I don't think that we can make judgments based on peoples' spirit," Obama said. "That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are going to provide good, quality care for all people.
"We're not going to solve every single one of these very difficult decisions at end of life," he said. "Ultimately that's going to be between physicians and patients."
Jane Sturm told the story of her nearly 100-year-old mother, who was originally denied a pacemaker because of her age. She eventually got one, but only after seeking out another doctor.
"Outside the medical criteria," Sturm asked, "is there a consideration that can be given for a certain spirit ... and quality of life?"
"I don't think that we can make judgments based on peoples' spirit," Obama said. "That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are going to provide good, quality care for all people.
"We're not going to solve every single one of these very difficult decisions at end of life," he said. "Ultimately that's going to be between physicians and patients."
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LOL... Wrongwinger doesn't have a frontal cortex, it's not possible for it to "know" anything.Fake newsLol, Obama himself told a lady her mother under his plan, would get pain pills instead of the pace maker she needed to live. Sounds like a death sentence to me.Obama said that Republican claims that Obamacare would have Death Panels..... Was Fake News
Nope, fact and you know it.
rightwinger
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We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.You tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.Fake news
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
Ray From Cleveland
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We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.You tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
And........what's your point?
Ray From Cleveland
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The real story
Jane Sturm told the story of her nearly 100-year-old mother, who was originally denied a pacemaker because of her age. She eventually got one, but only after seeking out another doctor.
"Outside the medical criteria," Sturm asked, "is there a consideration that can be given for a certain spirit ... and quality of life?"
"I don't think that we can make judgments based on peoples' spirit," Obama said. "That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are going to provide good, quality care for all people.
"We're not going to solve every single one of these very difficult decisions at end of life," he said. "Ultimately that's going to be between physicians and patients."
And I see you left out the best part. "WE would let doctors know this isn't going to help you."
jknowgood
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So you are admitting obamacre has death panels. The lady said the doctor said it would be a good idea. What are you against the choice of a womans body isn't hers anymore?We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.You tube it, he told that lady would get a pain pill instead of a pace maker. You really don't know anything about Obama? Proves he got your vote, because he was black.
LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
rightwinger
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The point is there are no Obamacare Death PanelsWe are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
And........what's your point?
Insurance companies routinely make decisions on what procedures they will cover in elderly patients
rightwinger
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Show me an Obamacare Death PanelSo you are admitting obamacre has death panels. The lady said the doctor said it would be a good idea. What are you against the choice of a womans body isn't hers anymore?We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
jknowgood
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His point is, if Obama steps in. A woman no longer has a choice about her body.We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.LOL
Provide the full context or it is more GOP Fake News
And........what's your point?
Ray From Cleveland
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The point is there are no Obamacare Death PanelsWe are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.
And........what's your point?
Insurance companies routinely make decisions on what procedures they will cover in elderly patients
No they don't because all our elderly are under Medicare.
Ray From Cleveland
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Show me an Obamacare Death PanelSo you are admitting obamacre has death panels. The lady said the doctor said it would be a good idea. What are you against the choice of a womans body isn't hers anymore?We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.
1. An elderly woman needs a pacemaker to survive.
2. Government says we will not pay for it, so take pain pills.
3. Pain pills are fine for pain, but they do not prevent death.
When government tells doctors how they are allowed to proceed, how is that not a death panel?
jknowgood
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Under Obamacare a woman doesn't have a choice about her body. The doctor said it would benifit the patient. Obama said himself, under his plan. She would get a pain pill. You went from this being fake news to other insurance companies do it. I thought obamacare was going to be better. Guess not.Show me an Obamacare Death PanelSo you are admitting obamacre has death panels. The lady said the doctor said it would be a good idea. What are you against the choice of a womans body isn't hers anymore?We are talking about someone who is 100 years oldThe doctor said it would be a good idea, that is all the context you need. Sorry it took you all these years to find out the older you get, the less healthcare you will get. Maybe Obama will give you the pain pill instead of the treatment that could give you years more of life.Fake news without context of how sick the woman isTruth hurts, huh? The lady asked the question and Obama answered it in full context. You really didn't know anything about him.
Ray From Cleveland
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You went from this being fake news to other insurance companies do it.
I always said, the best part of being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong.
jknowgood
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Lol, it amazes me how little they know about the people they elect.You went from this being fake news to other insurance companies do it.
I always said, the best part of being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong.
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