Zone1 Dear White Evangelicals

[marvin martian]

He knew that was a lie and had no reason to state it. That lie and Pelosi "We have to pass it........." statement is why the (D)'s were wiped out in 2010.

He promised to ban lobbyists from the White House. First thing he did was break that promise.

He promised Hispanics that one of the first things he would do is address immigration, he never did.

He promised to get us out of the wars. He did not.

He promised to not get us involved in new wars. He did.

He promised to close Gitmo. He did not.

He promised to end the illegal spying on the citizens. He doubled down on it.

Should I continue?

Obama cultists didn't even see any of that, much less spend two seconds thinking about it. He was a god to them.

 

[odanny]

I have no desire to parse how large of a liar one is over the other. It's all the same to me

That's my point: They are not the same, and it is just lazy on your part to make such an incorrect statement.

 

[Ralph Norton]

Excoriating white, racist, fraudulent "Christians".

They worship the golden calf named Donald Trump.

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And we are supposed to give a shit about what he says?

 

[Correll]

It's the hypocrisy. If you are in a committed long term relationship with someone of the same sex, you are going to hell.

If you are a serial adulterer it's "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP he's our guy".

They voted against the person that hated them and would work everyday to attack them, and for the person that wanted to work with them and did not bear them any ill will.


This is completely normal and should not be noteworthy.

 

[surada]

The main reason I hate Evangelicals is because they insist on telling Jews - to their face -that they are going to hell unless they abandon their religion and join Christians.

And believe me, they don’t take a polite “no” for an answer. The last one was harassing me so much that I was ready to get a restraining order.

That comes out of a heretical eschatology from the Darbyites and later Cyrus Scofield... and Hal Lindsey.

 

[pknopp]

Obama cultists didn't even see any of that, much less spend two seconds thinking about it. He was a god to them.

No different than Trump supporters and then they both wonder how the other side can ignore their guys lies.

 

[hadit]

what evangelical pastor isn't politically motivated??


That is how many of them grow their church, by engaging in politics, not fellowship...

Most of the thousands of pastors with small churches avoid politics altogether, because politics isn't Christianity, and vice versa.

 

[martybegan]

They voted just the same in 2020, after 4 years of evidence. I certainly do not hate Christianity, what I dislike are fake, ignorant, racist people who masquerade as 'Christians' when they are far less 'Christian' than most atheist's.

Again, what do Democrats offer to Evangelicals besides forced baking/photography, increased LGBT agendas in schools, abortion up to the moment of birth, and threats of losing their non profit status if they get in the way?

 

[Correll]

No different than Trump supporters and then they both wonder how the other side can ignore their guys lies.

Very different.

 

[pknopp]

That's my point: They are not the same, and it is just lazy on your part to make such an incorrect statement.

A distinction without a difference. I've also noted many times, anything you will not condemn your guy for often times only gets worse with the next.

 

[BS Filter]

This......... times one thousand.



By North Carolina Pastor John Pavlovitz

Dear White Evangelicals,

I need to tell you something: People have had it with you. They’re done. They want nothing to do with you any longer, and here’s why: They see your hypocrisy, your inconsistency, your incredibly selective mercy, and your thinly veiled supremacy.

For eight years they watched you relentlessly demonize a Black President; a man faithfully married for 26 years; a doting father and husband without a hint of moral scandal or the slightest whiff of infidelity. They watched you deny his personal faith convictions, argue his birthplace, and assail his character—all without cause or evidence.

They saw you brandish Scriptures to malign him and use the laziest of racial stereotypes in criticizing him. And through it all, White Evangelicals—you never once suggested that God placed him where he was, you never publicly offered prayers for him and his family, you never welcomed him to your Christian Universities, you never gave him the benefit of the doubt in any instance, you never spoke of offering him forgiveness or mercy, your evangelists never publicly thanked God for his leadership, your pastors never took to the pulpit to offer solidarity with him, you never made any effort to affirm his humanity or show the love of Jesus to him in any quantifiable measure.

You violently opposed him at every single turn—without offering a single ounce of the grace you claim as the heart of your faith tradition. You jettisoned Jesus as you dispensed damnation on him.

And yet you give carte blanche to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.

And the change in you is unmistakable. It has been an astonishing conversion to behold: as being born again.

With him, you suddenly find religion. With him, you’re now willing to offer full absolution. With him, all is forgiven without repentance or admission. With him, you’re suddenly able to see some invisible, deeply buried heart. With him, sin has become unimportant, and compassion no longer a requirement. With him, you see only Providence.

And White Evangelicals, all those people who have had it with you—they see it all clearly. They recognize the toxic source of your inconsistency.
They see that pigmentation and party are your sole deities. They see that you aren’t interested in perpetuating the love of God or emulating the heart of Jesus. They see that you aren’t burdened to love the least, or to be agents of compassion, or to care for your Muslim, gay, African, female, or poor neighbors as yourself.

They see that all you’re really interested in doing is making a God in your own ivory image and demanding that the world bow down to it. They recognize this all about white, Republican Jesus—not dark-skinned Jesus of Nazareth.

And I know you don’t realize it, but you’re digging your own grave these days; the grave of your very faith tradition.
Your willingness to align yourself with cruelty is a costly marriage. Yes, you’ve gained a Supreme Court seat, a few months with the Presidency as a mouthpiece, and the cheap high of temporary power—but you’ve lost a whole lot more.

You’ve lost an audience with millions of wise, decent, good-hearted, faithful people with eyes to see this ugliness. You’ve lost any moral high ground or spiritual authority with a generation. You’ve lost any semblance of Christlikeness. You’ve lost the plot. And most of all you’ve lost your soul.

I know it’s likely you’ll dismiss these words. The fact that you’ve even made your bed with such malevolence, shows how far gone you are and how insulated you are from the reality in front of you. But I had to at least try to reach you. It’s what Jesus would do.

Obama is a race hustler, like you.

 

[martybegan]

Evidence of what? They supported him, he supported them. Or did you miss Roe v Wade being overturned?

This is normal political behavior. That you are having a hissy fit, is you holding Evangelicals to a standard you do not hold anyone else to.

He may not live like them, but he doesn't despise them the way the left does, nor does he attack them or try to force them to change their ways.

 

[pknopp]

They voted against the person that hated them and would work everyday to attack them, and for the person that wanted to work with them and did not bear them any ill will.


This is completely normal and should not be noteworthy.

Religious hypocrisy is not understandable.

 

[surada]

He knew that was a lie and had no reason to state it. That lie and Pelosi "We have to pass it........." statement is why the (D)'s were wiped out in 2010.

He promised to ban lobbyists from the White House. First thing he did was break that promise.

He promised Hispanics that one of the first things he would do is address immigration, he never did.

He promised to get us out of the wars. He did not.

He promised to not get us involved in new wars. He did.

He promised to close Gitmo. He did not.

He promised to end the illegal spying on the citizens. He doubled down on it.

Should I continue?

So he smartened up. You couldn't put the Gitmo gang in the general prison population. It would have become a finishing school for jihadis.

 

[odanny]

Again, what do Democrats offer to Evangelicals besides forced baking/photography, increased LGBT agendas in schools, abortion up to the moment of birth, and threats of losing their non profit status if they get in the way?

There are some in the religious community who recognize Trump for who he is, and refrain from the Faustian bargain, but they are also usually Mormon, and that is not necessarily a "Christian" religion.

 

[pknopp]

So he smartened up. You couldn't put the Gitmo gang in the general prison population. It would have become a finishing school for jihadis.

You could have tried them. We decided they would be held indefinitely with no due process, no nothing.

 

[odanny]

And we are supposed to give a shit about what he says?

You obviously do, or you wouldn't be here.

 

[Correll]

Religious hypocrisy is not understandable.

Nothing hypocritical about it. ONe is their enemy, who is a danger to them, one is their friend who is not.

 

[odanny]

Obama is a race hustler, like you.

You're a fool, like Trump.

 

[BS Filter]

You obviously do, or you wouldn't be here.

McRacehustler.