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Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information
Yes, indeed.
Wilson's Secret Police
By Murray N. Rothbard
America's entry into World War I was marked by a system of repression of dissent and civil liberties unprecedented our history. The repression ranged from the jailing of thousands of critics of the war, most notably Socialist leader Eugene Debs, to banning the playing of Beethoven (a Hun), changing the name of sauerkraut to Liberty cabbage, and seeking to prohibit the teaching of the German language in the public schools ("Speech of Hated Hun Forbidden," was how the press saw one such triumph). Leading the nationwide assault was the federal government; the executive branch also orchestrated councils and organizations on the state and local level, and gave official sanction to vigilante activities of superpatriots engaging in surveillance of their neighbors..."
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Wikipedia says he was a Democrat
Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia perhaps you should correct the entry.
So?
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What are you babbling about?
Definition of EXONERATE
1: to relieve of a responsibility, obligation, or hardship
2: to clear from accusation or blame
Who cleared him?
Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information
the NSA had no legal authority to maintain secrecy
, or to obtain the stolen information in the first palce. Therefore no permission is needed to expose them for having said information.
Even if that means stealing it back from thieves and revealing it to the public. He was under no obligation to maintain secrecy of unconstitutional activity.
You've lost this debate.
What are you babbling about?
Definition of EXONERATE
1: to relieve of a responsibility, obligation, or hardship
2: to clear from accusation or blame
Who cleared him?
The law cleared him in the same fashion that agents of the state are cleared from breaking the law to expose criminal organizations or other crimes.
Did Ed Snowden just happen to stumble across information he felt like the public needed to know?
"My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked," he told the Post on June 12. "That is why I accepted that position about three months ago."
Doesn't sound like it to me! Sounds like he sought out the job with the intent all along of violating his security agreement and U.S. law. That's how SPIES behave - not whistle blowers.
Snowden sought Booz Allen job to gather evidence on NSA surveillance | South China Morning Post
who did he spy for?
He doesn't have to have spied FOR anyone.
Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information./QUOTE]
Espionage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
His motivations are not relevant.
those arent the actions of a spy
Under your narrow definition of the word "spy" maybe.
That is what Snowden told us the obama admin via the nsa was doing.
and they are doing it, they admitted it.
Grats, you just accused Pres Obama of being guilty of espionage.
ad hominem
Wikipedia says he was a Democrat
Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia perhaps you should correct the entry.
So?
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So people know the truth.
Government workers have no right to break the law. They have no legal right to withhold information they acquired unconstitutionally. Thy are in violation of the law. Period. That means exposing them, regardless of what they classify or try to maintain in secret regarding their unconsittutional actions, isn't agaisnt the law. They had no authority to break the law and keep it secret, dullard.Where do you get this shit? Now the government can't keep secrets? Says who?
So anyone with security clearance can reveal any secrets they like, so long as they say its unconstitutional?
How can he be a traitor for exposing "secrets" when Obama claims those "secrets" are phoney scandals? if they are phoney scandals, then he clearly didn't expose anything real and thus didn't commit any crime.
Because he took and oath not to reveal what he revealed. duh.
We are a nation of laws.
If I take an oath to protect government secrets - and the law says I must keep those secrets or suffer criminal penalties - that means I can release whatever secrets I want and not suffer the penalties, right?
Is that what a nation of laws is?
Wikipedia says he was a Democrat
Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia perhaps you should correct the entry.
So?
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So people know the truth.
How can he be a traitor for exposing "secrets" when Obama claims those "secrets" are phoney scandals? if they are phoney scandals, then he clearly didn't expose anything real and thus didn't commit any crime.
Because he took and oath not to reveal what he revealed. duh.
Thanks for proving that having a PHD in today educational system means nearly nothing. If Snowden's information was false, then he broke no law, at best he is a liar. The only way Snowden could be viewed as a traitor is if there was truth the the secrets he exposed. if there is truth the the secrets, then Obama lied to every American and in fact Obama and his admin broke constitutional law.
I should say I at first admired Snowden. Although I've always thought he should pay for his crimes, I was looking forward to a trial where Snowden would get to plead his case to a jury, who might actually decide to let him off. Since he has instead chosen to be a pussy and hide out with dictators, I have no admiration of him.
We are a nation of laws.
If I take an oath to protect government secrets - and the law says I must keep those secrets or suffer criminal penalties - that means I can release whatever secrets I want and not suffer the penalties, right?
Is that what a nation of laws is?
Obama took an oath to Protect and uphold the constitution of America... he failed to do so. So of course you attack Snowden for showing the world that.
BTW, I bet our allies love us more after finding out we spy on them, thanks to Obama.
I should say I at first admired Snowden. Although I've always thought he should pay for his crimes, I was looking forward to a trial where Snowden would get to plead his case to a jury, who might actually decide to let him off. Since he has instead chosen to be a pussy and hide out with dictators, I have no admiration of him.
Obama expanded the Patriot act to allow himself the power to kill US citizens that he deems a threat. Snowden is running from one dictator and hiding behind another who does not like Obama.
It's kind of crazy watching you go full retard in this thread. I doubt people can pretend to be as ignorant as you are, I honestly think you're honestly clueless.
So?
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So people know the truth.
Apparently not, if folks SINCERELY believe that you can not be a democrat and a communist.
Read the Democratic party Platform and compare with the Nazi platform. The ONLY difference is the racist provisos.
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Because he took and oath not to reveal what he revealed. duh.
Thanks for proving that having a PHD in today educational system means nearly nothing. If Snowden's information was false, then he broke no law, at best he is a liar. The only way Snowden could be viewed as a traitor is if there was truth the the secrets he exposed. if there is truth the the secrets, then Obama lied to every American and in fact Obama and his admin broke constitutional law.
Did Ed Snowden not take an oath of secrecy?
If I take an oath to protect government secrets - and the law says I must keep those secrets or suffer criminal penalties - that means I can release whatever secrets I want and not suffer the penalties, right?
Is that what a nation of laws is?
Obama took an oath to Protect and uphold the constitution of America... he failed to do so. So of course you attack Snowden for showing the world that.
If I take an oath to protect government secrets - and the law says I must keep those secrets or suffer criminal penalties - that means I can release whatever secrets I want and not suffer the penalties, right?
Yes or no?
BTW, I bet our allies love us more after finding out we spy on them, thanks to Obama.
We have always spied on our allies you fucking idiot.
