Here’s What’s Comin’

Why is that? Because Sowell point out how dumb it is to demand skin color quotas?

Or because I provided the real difference in success......personal life style choices, not skin color?
Dude. You keep posting nonsense, linking irrelevant opinions, and claiming victory for not getting an immediate response from me while I’m out running American business.

Your argument is that skin color doesn’t effect your outcomes only your choices affect your outcomes. If that is the case, why are the results so utterly miserable for people with dark skin color? I posted two clear and concise links of data not opinions from idiots.

Only two choices to explain the poor outcomes for black Americans... Either the system is working against them OR you believe something about their skin color effects their decision making. Otherwise we’d have even distributed bad decision makers in America regardless of your skin color. There isn’t another choice. You tell me what you believe or are you a coward? Answer the question.


"Your argument is that skin color doesn’t effect your outcomes"

Exactly right, Corky

It's life choice.


And these are the right ones:
“The chart endeavors to list "the ways white people and their traditions, attitudes and ways of life have been normalized over time and are now considered standard practices in the United States." Among those traditions, attitudes, and ways of life are: Individualism, hard work, objectivity, the nuclear family, a belief in progress, a written tradition, politeness, the justice system, respect for authority, delayed gratification and planning for the future, plus much more.” Smithsonian Goes Full Marxist: Nuclear Family, Science, Christianity All Part of Oppressive 'Whiteness'


I'm down wit all dat!!!!



See what you've learned?
The sad part, is that the socialist, Marxist communist revolution has all but destroyed the poor young new generations mind's of all colors in the United states now. We sat back in our tolerency, and in our complacency, and in our own brainwashing to allow it to happen, and all for fear of being labeled all the things that the socialist communist want to label us as for these very reason's that we see taking place in America today.
Put the crack pipe down. All you know is how to type words you don’t understand. Probably pirated the thoughts on this site. None of what you typed is true. Zero. Nada. Zilch.



That's pretty funny coming from a guy who hasn't been right since disco died.



I was a club kid......brings back lots of memories.

I had every ELO 8 track............kids today are spoiled ass leeches.........




Turned To Stone was my fav.
 
Why is that? Because Sowell point out how dumb it is to demand skin color quotas?

Or because I provided the real difference in success......personal life style choices, not skin color?
Dude. You keep posting nonsense, linking irrelevant opinions, and claiming victory for not getting an immediate response from me while I’m out running American business.

Your argument is that skin color doesn’t effect your outcomes only your choices affect your outcomes. If that is the case, why are the results so utterly miserable for people with dark skin color? I posted two clear and concise links of data not opinions from idiots.

Only two choices to explain the poor outcomes for black Americans... Either the system is working against them OR you believe something about their skin color effects their decision making. Otherwise we’d have even distributed bad decision makers in America regardless of your skin color. There isn’t another choice. You tell me what you believe or are you a coward? Answer the question.


"Your argument is that skin color doesn’t effect your outcomes"

Exactly right, Corky

It's life choice.


And these are the right ones:
“The chart endeavors to list "the ways white people and their traditions, attitudes and ways of life have been normalized over time and are now considered standard practices in the United States." Among those traditions, attitudes, and ways of life are: Individualism, hard work, objectivity, the nuclear family, a belief in progress, a written tradition, politeness, the justice system, respect for authority, delayed gratification and planning for the future, plus much more.” Smithsonian Goes Full Marxist: Nuclear Family, Science, Christianity All Part of Oppressive 'Whiteness'


I'm down wit all dat!!!!



See what you've learned?
The sad part, is that the socialist, Marxist communist revolution has all but destroyed the poor young new generations mind's of all colors in the United states now. We sat back in our tolerency, and in our complacency, and in our own brainwashing to allow it to happen, and all for fear of being labeled all the things that the socialist communist want to label us as for these very reason's that we see taking place in America today.
Put the crack pipe down. All you know is how to type words you don’t understand. Probably pirated the thoughts on this site. None of what you typed is true. Zero. Nada. Zilch.



That's pretty funny coming from a guy who hasn't been right since disco died.



I was a club kid......brings back lots of memories.

I had every ELO 8 track............kids today are spoiled ass leeches.........




Turned To Stone was my fav.

 
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “


I doubt that. I've met some pretty wealthy Africans. The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. There is plenty of evidence to support my comment. In fact that determination was made in 1968 and reaffirmed again in 2018.


Let’s admit that the entire reparations discussion is really about tearing down the image of America….slavery and all. And this current thread is only about the assumption of reparation…and it will happen if the Democrats gain total control, but in calculating the numbers eligible for the windfall, how about this number: People come here from all over the world because of opportunity. And many do so because they know it is a damned lie that there is institutional, systemic racism in America.

Here’s proof: 2.1 million

It is estimated that the current population of African immigrants to the United States is about 2.1 million. According to the Migration Policy Institute, as of 2009 two-thirds of the African immigrants were from either East or West Africa.
African immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

Over two million black Africans, sentient human beings, voluntarily placed their faith in a move to America, basing their hopes on the knowledge that they have the same opportunity as those with a different color skin.

"Tearing down the image of America". Just when I think you have posted your dumbest comments ever, you come out with something this stupid. The "image of America" was torn down, trampled and destroyed when you elected a racist idiot like Donald Trump as President, and started tearing children out of their mother's arms.

The image of America was further torn down, when Donald Trump called white supremacists marching in Charlottesville "fine people". Donald Trump has torn down and destroyed the image of America. And you've cheered everything he has done destroy the nation.

Economy crashed. 50 million unemployed, 2 million sick. 150,000 dead, race riots in the streets as black and brown people die in disporportionate numbers from Covid, and Donald Trump tries to pretend it isn't happening, and sends storm troopers to deal with the anger of the people who are being allowed to die.

My question to PC is, why do you want more Americans to die. Donald Trump has destroyed the USA. Utterly. It will take more than 10 years just to recover the jobs he's cost you. The 150,000 small businesses which have closed permanently, while his billionaire buddies scooped up all the small business bailout money, with Trump's blessing and connivance.

And while ultimately, these public corporations, and private millionaires will be forced to repay the money they looted from the Treasury, for the 150,000 small business owners who have permanently closed, it will be of no consequence. Trump has killed small business in America and created an authoritarian oligarchy.

The only businesses left in the USA will be the minimum wage titans, and multi-nationals. This is the corporate take-over of America.

So how is it living in America's largest national park, Canada?

Is that your solution to the economic and social problems facing the USA? Sarcasm and hate to deflect from the facts that Trump is destroying America. I have family and friends in Texas, Florida, Nevada, California, and New Mexico, and Wisconsin who are scared shitless. Who haven't seen their grandchildren in months, and who are staying at home having their groceries delivered.

Some of my friends are health care workers, and cancer survivors, and people with asthma and other pre-existing conditions, including a 30 something teacher who just got a clean bill of health from her second go-round with cancer, who is being expected to return to a class filled with "low risk" high school students in Wisconsin.

Another is a retired nurse with multiple high risk pre-existing conditions who has already watched one of her children get hospitalized for the crud. She hasn't hugged her grandchildren since March. This shit isn't funny, and it isn't clever.

All of the rest of us - their online and real life friends and communities are supporting Americans they love and care about, through this gong show of a Presidency. If you're not part of the solution, lady, you're a big part of the problem.

So spare me you lame insults, and your weak ass progaganda and bullshit, and just stop it.


if covid scares you, stay home, wear a gas mask everywhere you go, hide under the bed, cry to your hero obozo the kenyan. just leave the rest of us alone to live our lives as WE choose.

Covid doesn't scare me at all. I live in a country where we had 200 cases yesterday, and I spent part of last week with my children and grandchildren. Where people are required, by law, to wear masks to go into a store, and businesses are all re-opening.

We have "competent governance". Even our Conservative Premier didn't fuck this up, as stupid as he is. Although he's going to try to take on the Teacher's Union - again. The Union had been on stike at the start of the epidemic, and Ford quietly settled, caving in utterly to teacher demands, after it started. Parents will back up the teachers on forcing their kids back to school.
 
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “


I doubt that. I've met some pretty wealthy Africans. The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. There is plenty of evidence to support my comment. In fact that determination was made in 1968 and reaffirmed again in 2018.


Let’s admit that the entire reparations discussion is really about tearing down the image of America….slavery and all. And this current thread is only about the assumption of reparation…and it will happen if the Democrats gain total control, but in calculating the numbers eligible for the windfall, how about this number: People come here from all over the world because of opportunity. And many do so because they know it is a damned lie that there is institutional, systemic racism in America.

Here’s proof: 2.1 million

It is estimated that the current population of African immigrants to the United States is about 2.1 million. According to the Migration Policy Institute, as of 2009 two-thirds of the African immigrants were from either East or West Africa.
African immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

Over two million black Africans, sentient human beings, voluntarily placed their faith in a move to America, basing their hopes on the knowledge that they have the same opportunity as those with a different color skin.
Are we talking current or old numbers ??? If current numbers, then those like IM2 would say that they are seeing the lighted pathway that the African Americans within are now lighting up for them. Otherwise they aren't coming here for assimilation with whites or to engage in white culture, but to come and stay in the carved out section's that the African Americans are laying out for them. Think about it.

The great American experiment might be doomed.
 
Amazing how much simplistic, assumptive, linear thinking goes on in politics. If THIS is the condition now, THAT will be the condition later.

When confronted with a complicated issue, normally an intelligent adult carefully examines all of its elements and makes adjustments across the board as needed.

But instead, all we can do now is (a) refuse to look at half the issue and (b) blame the entire complicated problem on the other half. That's it.

We are devolving, unable to address issues honestly and comprehensively. We've lost our most valuable trait: Intellectual curiosity.


So you are in favor of reparations.

Any bad idea, any there you are stumping for it.
I'm against reparations.

Ladies and gentlemen, I offer you Exhibit A.


But you just claimed it was a complicated issue....now it appears you find it simple.

Maybe it is you that is 'simple,' Jack Horner.
Reparations are but one piece of a much larger and much more complicated issue.

It saddens me to have to point out something so obvious.

And, of course, the personal insults from you.

You're lost, and I'll bet that some level you know it. That explains the insults. You've illustrated my point beautifully for me. Again. Thank you.


so you support the dems buying black votes? should they also buy white votes and asian votes? Should dems stand at the polling places handing out 100 dollar bills for every vote? Where does this shit end?
I've only pointed out a few hundred times here how the Left has enabled the worst instincts and impulses of minorities by constantly lowering standards for them over the last two-plus generations. And I've had hundreds of squabbles with Regressive Lefties here who lose their shit when I point it out.

But somehow you guys never seem to remember all the times I've said it. That's not my fault.

I'm not stuck in binary thought patterns. I can see and accurately understand both ends of an issue. That's not my fault, either.

I'm just no longer interested in asymmetrical conversations with those who clearly lack that capacity.


nice rant, but your postings prove that you are a lefty. Stop pretending to be unbiased, you aren't
Wrong again. Line two of my sig, below. You whiners are boring. Bitch, bitch, bitch.

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/middle of the road/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/come-on-jake-man-up-just-this-once.590002/


nope, the body of your postings are left leaning if not far left. you are not what you claim, stop lying and admit what you really are.
What I am is flattered. Interesting to know that I can turn people like you into people like this.


Looks like folks have caught on to your schtick.
You keep saying that. Trumpsters and Regressives don't like ol' Mac. I consider that a good thing.

You nutters constantly make threads all about me. You don't even see how transparent you are.

Your opinions mean nothing to me. Your behaviors, however, absolutely fascinate me. So thanks!

BSQcTiB.gif
 
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “


I doubt that. I've met some pretty wealthy Africans. The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. There is plenty of evidence to support my comment. In fact that determination was made in 1968 and reaffirmed again in 2018.


Let’s admit that the entire reparations discussion is really about tearing down the image of America….slavery and all. And this current thread is only about the assumption of reparation…and it will happen if the Democrats gain total control, but in calculating the numbers eligible for the windfall, how about this number: People come here from all over the world because of opportunity. And many do so because they know it is a damned lie that there is institutional, systemic racism in America.

Here’s proof: 2.1 million

It is estimated that the current population of African immigrants to the United States is about 2.1 million. According to the Migration Policy Institute, as of 2009 two-thirds of the African immigrants were from either East or West Africa.
African immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

Over two million black Africans, sentient human beings, voluntarily placed their faith in a move to America, basing their hopes on the knowledge that they have the same opportunity as those with a different color skin.
Are we talking current or old numbers ??? If current numbers, then those like IM2 would say that they are seeing the lighted pathway that the African Americans within are now lighting up for them. Otherwise they aren't coming here for assimilation with whites or to engage in white culture, but to come and stay in the carved out section's that the African Americans are laying out for them. Think about it.

The great American experiment might be doomed.

I hope you know you're talking to a card-carrying pessimist.
 
Amazing how much simplistic, assumptive, linear thinking goes on in politics. If THIS is the condition now, THAT will be the condition later.

When confronted with a complicated issue, normally an intelligent adult carefully examines all of its elements and makes adjustments across the board as needed.

But instead, all we can do now is (a) refuse to look at half the issue and (b) blame the entire complicated problem on the other half. That's it.

We are devolving, unable to address issues honestly and comprehensively. We've lost our most valuable trait: Intellectual curiosity.


So you are in favor of reparations.

Any bad idea, any there you are stumping for it.
I'm against reparations.

Ladies and gentlemen, I offer you Exhibit A.


But you just claimed it was a complicated issue....now it appears you find it simple.

Maybe it is you that is 'simple,' Jack Horner.
Reparations are but one piece of a much larger and much more complicated issue.

It saddens me to have to point out something so obvious.

And, of course, the personal insults from you.

You're lost, and I'll bet that some level you know it. That explains the insults. You've illustrated my point beautifully for me. Again. Thank you.


so you support the dems buying black votes? should they also buy white votes and asian votes? Should dems stand at the polling places handing out 100 dollar bills for every vote? Where does this shit end?
I've only pointed out a few hundred times here how the Left has enabled the worst instincts and impulses of minorities by constantly lowering standards for them over the last two-plus generations. And I've had hundreds of squabbles with Regressive Lefties here who lose their shit when I point it out.

But somehow you guys never seem to remember all the times I've said it. That's not my fault.

I'm not stuck in binary thought patterns. I can see and accurately understand both ends of an issue. That's not my fault, either.

I'm just no longer interested in asymmetrical conversations with those who clearly lack that capacity.


nice rant, but your postings prove that you are a lefty. Stop pretending to be unbiased, you aren't
Wrong again. Line two of my sig, below. You whiners are boring. Bitch, bitch, bitch.

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/middle of the road/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/come-on-jake-man-up-just-this-once.590002/


nope, the body of your postings are left leaning if not far left. you are not what you claim, stop lying and admit what you really are.
What I am is flattered. Interesting to know that I can turn people like you into people like this.


Looks like folks have caught on to your schtick.
You keep saying that. Trumpsters and Regressives don't like ol' Mac. I consider that a good thing.

You nutters constantly make threads all about me. You don't even see how transparent you are.

Your opinions mean nothing to me. Your behaviors, however, absolutely fascinate me. So thanks!

BSQcTiB.gif



We sure are lucky to have such a moderate like you around, Jack…..wish I would have been here to see how you maintained the middle ground between the Nazis and those Jewish folks during that war.
 
Why is that? Because Sowell point out how dumb it is to demand skin color quotas?

Or because I provided the real difference in success......personal life style choices, not skin color?
Dude. You keep posting nonsense, linking irrelevant opinions, and claiming victory for not getting an immediate response from me while I’m out running American business.

Your argument is that skin color doesn’t effect your outcomes only your choices affect your outcomes. If that is the case, why are the results so utterly miserable for people with dark skin color? I posted two clear and concise links of data not opinions from idiots.

Only two choices to explain the poor outcomes for black Americans... Either the system is working against them OR you believe something about their skin color effects their decision making. Otherwise we’d have even distributed bad decision makers in America regardless of your skin color. There isn’t another choice. You tell me what you believe or are you a coward? Answer the question.


"Your argument is that skin color doesn’t effect your outcomes"

Exactly right, Corky

It's life choice.


And these are the right ones:
“The chart endeavors to list "the ways white people and their traditions, attitudes and ways of life have been normalized over time and are now considered standard practices in the United States." Among those traditions, attitudes, and ways of life are: Individualism, hard work, objectivity, the nuclear family, a belief in progress, a written tradition, politeness, the justice system, respect for authority, delayed gratification and planning for the future, plus much more.” Smithsonian Goes Full Marxist: Nuclear Family, Science, Christianity All Part of Oppressive 'Whiteness'


I'm down wit all dat!!!!



See what you've learned?
The sad part, is that the socialist, Marxist communist revolution has all but destroyed the poor young new generations mind's of all colors in the United states now. We sat back in our tolerency, and in our complacency, and in our own brainwashing to allow it to happen, and all for fear of being labeled all the things that the socialist communist want to label us as for these very reason's that we see taking place in America today.

It's not the socialists who have destroyed the USA. It's the Republican Party and the corporatist agenda. When Reagan was elected, the very rich owned less than 50% of the wealth of American. Reagan promised working Americans that if they got rid of the "communistic unions", which were stifling worker wages. Once the unions were gone, everyone would be paid according to the ability, and good workers would get more. Once the wealthy had tax cuts and more cash to invest, that wealth would "trickle down" to the workers.

Once the unions were gone, wages stagnated for 40 years, and the wealth trickling up, never to be seen again by the working classes, ever since. Three economic crashes in 40 years have pushed working Americans further and further into poverty, while the super wealthy have seen their wealth increased, and their power consolidated with each successive crash.

Trump has your nation tottering on the brink of authoritarian dictatorship, and you're accusing the left of destroying the nation. The left has never crashed the economy. Not once. The left keeps patching it up and restoring stability after Republicans crash it yet again.
See, you are attempting to package it all into some sort of grand scheme that was laid out for years and years by one group, but no you are mistaken. Yes, we have wrong doing that you speak of, but the other wrong doing is the allowance of groups who see themselves as enemies of ALL things AMERICA, taking advantage of the weaknesses that were born out of the problems of the past. Both are wrong, but one was wrong for being greedy, and the other is wrong for praying upon those who are left vulnerable be it in their lives, communities, cities, towns, states, politic's, government, and cultures.

No we aren't perfect in America, but we have those living amongst us that are taking advantage of every weakness it can find in order to force America into becoming something that won't work at all, and sadly will ultimately lead it to wars and rumors of wars forever within.
 
all this talk about conservative vs liberal, republican vs democrat, black vs white, etc has distracted us from the real danger facing the USA--------------the Muslim jihad.

Islam is on a 100 year jihad to take over the entire world, by destroying countries from within, by planting sleeper cells in the top levels of governments (Omar and Tlaib). then gradually getting more muslims in government by creating muslim enclaves in congressional districts (duh, Omar and Tlaib).

You women think masks are difficult to deal with, try an abaya or a burka. Wake up america, or you will wake up to sharia law.

forget the partisan bullshit and understand the real danger. Divide and conquer works, Act now.
 
all this talk about conservative vs liberal, republican vs democrat, black vs white, etc has distracted us from the real danger facing the USA--------------the Muslim jihad.

Islam is on a 100 year jihad to take over the entire world, by destroying countries from within, by planting sleeper cells in the top levels of governments (Omar and Tlaib). then gradually getting more muslims in government by creating muslim enclaves in congressional districts (duh, Omar and Tlaib).

You women think masks are difficult to deal with, try an abaya or a burka. Wake up america, or you will wake up to sharia law.

forget the partisan bullshit and understand the real danger. Divide and conquer works, Act now.


The problem is that the allies of the jihadists are already inside the gates.

They're called Democrats....and there's lots of 'em.
 
all this talk about conservative vs liberal, republican vs democrat, black vs white, etc has distracted us from the real danger facing the USA--------------the Muslim jihad.

Islam is on a 100 year jihad to take over the entire world, by destroying countries from within, by planting sleeper cells in the top levels of governments (Omar and Tlaib). then gradually getting more muslims in government by creating muslim enclaves in congressional districts (duh, Omar and Tlaib).

You women think masks are difficult to deal with, try an abaya or a burka. Wake up america, or you will wake up to sharia law.

forget the partisan bullshit and understand the real danger. Divide and conquer works, Act now.


The problem is that the allies of the jihadists are already inside the gates.

They're called Democrats....and there's lots of 'em.


yes, but many of them are too stupid to realize what they are doing.
 
11. One more example of how disingenuous the argument for reparations is.

“Reparations demonstrably would be effective if an improved position for blacks is associated with sharp and enduring reductions in racial disparities, particularly economic disparities like racial wealth inequality, and corresponding sharp and enduring improvements in black well-being.”

Focus on the word ‘enduring.’


Why would handing a huge check over to a person who hasn’t managed to progress financially, and how would same make that person permanently....enduringly.... financially secure?

Of course it wouldn’t. The same things would happen to the government largesse that happened to any other money they had before.




“…. by the end of the first year, some people will have more than others. Guaranteed. Some people, you see, will be careful with what they have. Others won’t. Some people will gamble, others will save. Some will spend lavishly, others will be frugal.

Besides that, some people simply have more of the kind of wealth that can’t be redistributed. Intelligence; education; ambition. Drive, as opposed to: aw, we’re gonna get what we’re gonna get anyway, so let’s just stay on the couch and watch TV. Some people will put a little giddy-up in their get-alongs, and will find ways to improve their own lives.

Some of that will be “unfair,” because some people have more and better resources to tap. Intelligence; talent; family. Even accounting for such differences, though: some people will turn what they have into more, while others will not. Therefore, by the end of the very first year (not to mention the first five or ten) “haves” and “have-nots” will appear.” What if we just gave everybody the same amount of wealth? | John Hawkins' Right Wing News




Clearly, the reparations thing has some hidden agenda behind it.

Reparations…..meaningless. It is values, upbringing, character that makes the difference.
Veiled racism.

where do you see racism? What do you imagine would be the outcome if every person "of color" got a reparation check of $50,000 ? THE END OF THE
""DISPARITY""?
Dude you could give them all the money in the world, and they’d fail
Since whites were given everything, I do believe that if we are given everything whites have got since 1776, whites would be in a hurt locker.
Most whites in the USA are poor
Many are not getting by
The average white family has 15 times the wealth of a black family. I said what I did because the facts support it. Whites like you run your mouth about crime rates, well lets look at this rate-1 out of every 4 blacks live in or under poverty and 1 out of every 9 whites do. When you try your racist arguments do not try them with a black person who spent 32 years doing social work. Every opinion you guys have posted in this thread has been wrong.
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
. Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “

They have some stupendously successful negroes here. No time for them to pull the race card.
Out of 47.8 million blacks there are 36,000 worth at least 1 million. That's less than 1/10th of one percent. Now since whites invented the race card and keep dealing themselves all the card, I have to laugh at the psychosis that allows you to black reality out of your mind.



"If there were a contest for the most stupid idea in politics, my choice would be the assumption that people would be evenly or randomly distributed in incomes, institutions, occupations or awards, in the absence of somebody doing somebody wrong."
Thomas Sowell - The Dumbest Idea
That is a stupid quote. No one expects everyone to succeed at the same level but relatively equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color should occur. Your brain is malfunctioning. You think you say smart things then this stuff comes out.


"....equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color..."


Spoken like a true racist, Corky.

So, you're a government school grad, huh?
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.

We’ve discussed education levels. Mine is pretty stellar, better than yours which you wave around here in front of these mostly under-educated posters like it gives you value. It doesn’t. Your posts are simply transparent.
 
11. One more example of how disingenuous the argument for reparations is.

“Reparations demonstrably would be effective if an improved position for blacks is associated with sharp and enduring reductions in racial disparities, particularly economic disparities like racial wealth inequality, and corresponding sharp and enduring improvements in black well-being.”

Focus on the word ‘enduring.’


Why would handing a huge check over to a person who hasn’t managed to progress financially, and how would same make that person permanently....enduringly.... financially secure?

Of course it wouldn’t. The same things would happen to the government largesse that happened to any other money they had before.




“…. by the end of the first year, some people will have more than others. Guaranteed. Some people, you see, will be careful with what they have. Others won’t. Some people will gamble, others will save. Some will spend lavishly, others will be frugal.

Besides that, some people simply have more of the kind of wealth that can’t be redistributed. Intelligence; education; ambition. Drive, as opposed to: aw, we’re gonna get what we’re gonna get anyway, so let’s just stay on the couch and watch TV. Some people will put a little giddy-up in their get-alongs, and will find ways to improve their own lives.

Some of that will be “unfair,” because some people have more and better resources to tap. Intelligence; talent; family. Even accounting for such differences, though: some people will turn what they have into more, while others will not. Therefore, by the end of the very first year (not to mention the first five or ten) “haves” and “have-nots” will appear.” What if we just gave everybody the same amount of wealth? | John Hawkins' Right Wing News




Clearly, the reparations thing has some hidden agenda behind it.

Reparations…..meaningless. It is values, upbringing, character that makes the difference.
Veiled racism.

where do you see racism? What do you imagine would be the outcome if every person "of color" got a reparation check of $50,000 ? THE END OF THE
""DISPARITY""?
Dude you could give them all the money in the world, and they’d fail
Since whites were given everything, I do believe that if we are given everything whites have got since 1776, whites would be in a hurt locker.
Most whites in the USA are poor
Many are not getting by
The average white family has 15 times the wealth of a black family. I said what I did because the facts support it. Whites like you run your mouth about crime rates, well lets look at this rate-1 out of every 4 blacks live in or under poverty and 1 out of every 9 whites do. When you try your racist arguments do not try them with a black person who spent 32 years doing social work. Every opinion you guys have posted in this thread has been wrong.
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
. Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “

They have some stupendously successful negroes here. No time for them to pull the race card.
Out of 47.8 million blacks there are 36,000 worth at least 1 million. That's less than 1/10th of one percent. Now since whites invented the race card and keep dealing themselves all the card, I have to laugh at the psychosis that allows you to black reality out of your mind.



"If there were a contest for the most stupid idea in politics, my choice would be the assumption that people would be evenly or randomly distributed in incomes, institutions, occupations or awards, in the absence of somebody doing somebody wrong."
Thomas Sowell - The Dumbest Idea
That is a stupid quote. No one expects everyone to succeed at the same level but relatively equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color should occur. Your brain is malfunctioning. You think you say smart things then this stuff comes out.


"....equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color..."


Spoken like a true racist, Corky.

So, you're a government school grad, huh?
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.

We’ve discussed education levels. Mine is pretty stellar, better than yours which you wave around here in front of these mostly under-educated posters like it gives you value. It doesn’t. Your posts are simply transparent.



'Dodge'??????

Did you say I 'dodged' something, Corky?????


Seems you're still dodging this:


Corky, there is no racism.

It's life choices.

Let's put a cork in your pie hole again.....


Watch how deftly I do this......the education gap is perhaps the greatest determiner of wealth vs poverty.,



Get ready:

Let's begin here.....as you blame white folks and racism for all of your inadequacies, can you answer this query?



With respect to the education gap, how is it that 'racism' is responsible for these areas in which black students fall short when compared to white and Asian students:

The number of days absent from school

The number of hours spent watching TV

The number of pages read for homework

Quantity and quality of reading material in the home

The presence of two parents in the home.




Another cork, huh?
 
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.
They bring crime on everyone where they move to.........and make other blacks live in fear.............They are poster children for WHITE FLIGHT.........

I know .........I watched it happen with my own eyes............watched good neighborhoods go to total shit...............Where I grew up is total shit now...........Nice house was worthless when my parents died.......because of them moving in..............Mother N law forced to leave .......last white in the whole area........sold the house for the price of a shed...and the locals burned it to the ground...............

Why did she finally leave...........they killed the black man .....her neighbor .......in his own bed for his prescription drugs................we moved her things out packing weapons......watched her neighbors cry who were black saying they wish they could leave too........wondering if they would be next to be shot in their own beds at night.
 
can I add my little comment? There is EXCELLENT work in the field of DEVELOPMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY that applies here. For insight into how "child rearing" impacts on the function of the adult, ----read
the works of Erich Fromm and Erik Erikson. My belief is that some of the dysfunction that leads to economic
failure in black families in the USA actually stems from the social more's of subsaharan african society that persist in African-americans today.
 
11. One more example of how disingenuous the argument for reparations is.

“Reparations demonstrably would be effective if an improved position for blacks is associated with sharp and enduring reductions in racial disparities, particularly economic disparities like racial wealth inequality, and corresponding sharp and enduring improvements in black well-being.”

Focus on the word ‘enduring.’


Why would handing a huge check over to a person who hasn’t managed to progress financially, and how would same make that person permanently....enduringly.... financially secure?

Of course it wouldn’t. The same things would happen to the government largesse that happened to any other money they had before.




“…. by the end of the first year, some people will have more than others. Guaranteed. Some people, you see, will be careful with what they have. Others won’t. Some people will gamble, others will save. Some will spend lavishly, others will be frugal.

Besides that, some people simply have more of the kind of wealth that can’t be redistributed. Intelligence; education; ambition. Drive, as opposed to: aw, we’re gonna get what we’re gonna get anyway, so let’s just stay on the couch and watch TV. Some people will put a little giddy-up in their get-alongs, and will find ways to improve their own lives.

Some of that will be “unfair,” because some people have more and better resources to tap. Intelligence; talent; family. Even accounting for such differences, though: some people will turn what they have into more, while others will not. Therefore, by the end of the very first year (not to mention the first five or ten) “haves” and “have-nots” will appear.” What if we just gave everybody the same amount of wealth? | John Hawkins' Right Wing News




Clearly, the reparations thing has some hidden agenda behind it.

Reparations…..meaningless. It is values, upbringing, character that makes the difference.
Veiled racism.

where do you see racism? What do you imagine would be the outcome if every person "of color" got a reparation check of $50,000 ? THE END OF THE
""DISPARITY""?
Dude you could give them all the money in the world, and they’d fail
Since whites were given everything, I do believe that if we are given everything whites have got since 1776, whites would be in a hurt locker.
Most whites in the USA are poor
Many are not getting by
The average white family has 15 times the wealth of a black family. I said what I did because the facts support it. Whites like you run your mouth about crime rates, well lets look at this rate-1 out of every 4 blacks live in or under poverty and 1 out of every 9 whites do. When you try your racist arguments do not try them with a black person who spent 32 years doing social work. Every opinion you guys have posted in this thread has been wrong.
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
. Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “

They have some stupendously successful negroes here. No time for them to pull the race card.
Out of 47.8 million blacks there are 36,000 worth at least 1 million. That's less than 1/10th of one percent. Now since whites invented the race card and keep dealing themselves all the card, I have to laugh at the psychosis that allows you to black reality out of your mind.



"If there were a contest for the most stupid idea in politics, my choice would be the assumption that people would be evenly or randomly distributed in incomes, institutions, occupations or awards, in the absence of somebody doing somebody wrong."
Thomas Sowell - The Dumbest Idea
That is a stupid quote. No one expects everyone to succeed at the same level but relatively equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color should occur. Your brain is malfunctioning. You think you say smart things then this stuff comes out.


"....equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color..."


Spoken like a true racist, Corky.

So, you're a government school grad, huh?
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.

We’ve discussed education levels. Mine is pretty stellar, better than yours which you wave around here in front of these mostly under-educated posters like it gives you value. It doesn’t. Your posts are simply transparent.



'Dodge'??????

Did you say I 'dodged' something, Corky?????


Seems you're still dodging this:


Corky, there is no racism.

It's life choices.

Let's put a cork in your pie hole again.....


Watch how deftly I do this......the education gap is perhaps the greatest determiner of wealth vs poverty.,



Get ready:

Let's begin here.....as you blame white folks and racism for all of your inadequacies, can you answer this query?



With respect to the education gap, how is it that 'racism' is responsible for these areas in which black students fall short when compared to white and Asian students:

The number of days absent from school

The number of hours spent watching TV

The number of pages read for homework

Quantity and quality of reading material in the home

The presence of two parents in the home.




Another cork, huh?

no chic-----it's not really choices-----it is NURTURE.
In common lingo it is the social conditioning of the
child------which is determined by the nurture of the mother, the grandmother, the great-grandmother. -------........ (as x approaches infinity) As to the stability of the TWO PARENT MODEL------another aspect of
the social conditioning of the population------ie---not all people do the two parent thing which----IN US SOCIETY is so important
 
11. One more example of how disingenuous the argument for reparations is.

“Reparations demonstrably would be effective if an improved position for blacks is associated with sharp and enduring reductions in racial disparities, particularly economic disparities like racial wealth inequality, and corresponding sharp and enduring improvements in black well-being.”

Focus on the word ‘enduring.’


Why would handing a huge check over to a person who hasn’t managed to progress financially, and how would same make that person permanently....enduringly.... financially secure?

Of course it wouldn’t. The same things would happen to the government largesse that happened to any other money they had before.




“…. by the end of the first year, some people will have more than others. Guaranteed. Some people, you see, will be careful with what they have. Others won’t. Some people will gamble, others will save. Some will spend lavishly, others will be frugal.

Besides that, some people simply have more of the kind of wealth that can’t be redistributed. Intelligence; education; ambition. Drive, as opposed to: aw, we’re gonna get what we’re gonna get anyway, so let’s just stay on the couch and watch TV. Some people will put a little giddy-up in their get-alongs, and will find ways to improve their own lives.

Some of that will be “unfair,” because some people have more and better resources to tap. Intelligence; talent; family. Even accounting for such differences, though: some people will turn what they have into more, while others will not. Therefore, by the end of the very first year (not to mention the first five or ten) “haves” and “have-nots” will appear.” What if we just gave everybody the same amount of wealth? | John Hawkins' Right Wing News




Clearly, the reparations thing has some hidden agenda behind it.

Reparations…..meaningless. It is values, upbringing, character that makes the difference.
Veiled racism.

where do you see racism? What do you imagine would be the outcome if every person "of color" got a reparation check of $50,000 ? THE END OF THE
""DISPARITY""?
Dude you could give them all the money in the world, and they’d fail
Since whites were given everything, I do believe that if we are given everything whites have got since 1776, whites would be in a hurt locker.
Most whites in the USA are poor
Many are not getting by
The average white family has 15 times the wealth of a black family. I said what I did because the facts support it. Whites like you run your mouth about crime rates, well lets look at this rate-1 out of every 4 blacks live in or under poverty and 1 out of every 9 whites do. When you try your racist arguments do not try them with a black person who spent 32 years doing social work. Every opinion you guys have posted in this thread has been wrong.
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
. Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “

They have some stupendously successful negroes here. No time for them to pull the race card.
Out of 47.8 million blacks there are 36,000 worth at least 1 million. That's less than 1/10th of one percent. Now since whites invented the race card and keep dealing themselves all the card, I have to laugh at the psychosis that allows you to black reality out of your mind.



"If there were a contest for the most stupid idea in politics, my choice would be the assumption that people would be evenly or randomly distributed in incomes, institutions, occupations or awards, in the absence of somebody doing somebody wrong."
Thomas Sowell - The Dumbest Idea
That is a stupid quote. No one expects everyone to succeed at the same level but relatively equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color should occur. Your brain is malfunctioning. You think you say smart things then this stuff comes out.


"....equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color..."


Spoken like a true racist, Corky.

So, you're a government school grad, huh?
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.

We’ve discussed education levels. Mine is pretty stellar, better than yours which you wave around here in front of these mostly under-educated posters like it gives you value. It doesn’t. Your posts are simply transparent.



'Dodge'??????

Did you say I 'dodged' something, Corky?????


Seems you're still dodging this:


Corky, there is no racism.

It's life choices.

Let's put a cork in your pie hole again.....


Watch how deftly I do this......the education gap is perhaps the greatest determiner of wealth vs poverty.,



Get ready:

Let's begin here.....as you blame white folks and racism for all of your inadequacies, can you answer this query?



With respect to the education gap, how is it that 'racism' is responsible for these areas in which black students fall short when compared to white and Asian students:

The number of days absent from school

The number of hours spent watching TV

The number of pages read for homework

Quantity and quality of reading material in the home

The presence of two parents in the home.




Another cork, huh?

no chic-----it's not really choices-----it is NURTURE.
In common lingo it is the social conditioning of the
child------which is determined by the nurture of the mother, the grandmother, the great-grandmother. -------........ (as x approaches infinity) As to the stability of the TWO PARENT MODEL------another aspect of
the social conditioning of the population------ie---not all people do the two parent thing which----IN US SOCIETY is so important


Nurture, upbringing, results in choices.

The 'two parent thing' is the critical difference between societal success and failure.


I recommend that you pick up
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  1. One change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.
“For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage” For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage
“One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, …” Ibid.

  1. "The elites must preach what they practice." Charles Murray
 
So let's just take her opinion on gender identity. What does she suggest be done? Put trangendered people in institutions? Her opposition to their existence is not going to stop them from existing among us.
Treat them as normal people. Why do you feel they need to be a circus side show? Are you the savior for all people who are different? I laugh at your disrespect of difference
 
11. One more example of how disingenuous the argument for reparations is.

“Reparations demonstrably would be effective if an improved position for blacks is associated with sharp and enduring reductions in racial disparities, particularly economic disparities like racial wealth inequality, and corresponding sharp and enduring improvements in black well-being.”

Focus on the word ‘enduring.’


Why would handing a huge check over to a person who hasn’t managed to progress financially, and how would same make that person permanently....enduringly.... financially secure?

Of course it wouldn’t. The same things would happen to the government largesse that happened to any other money they had before.




“…. by the end of the first year, some people will have more than others. Guaranteed. Some people, you see, will be careful with what they have. Others won’t. Some people will gamble, others will save. Some will spend lavishly, others will be frugal.

Besides that, some people simply have more of the kind of wealth that can’t be redistributed. Intelligence; education; ambition. Drive, as opposed to: aw, we’re gonna get what we’re gonna get anyway, so let’s just stay on the couch and watch TV. Some people will put a little giddy-up in their get-alongs, and will find ways to improve their own lives.

Some of that will be “unfair,” because some people have more and better resources to tap. Intelligence; talent; family. Even accounting for such differences, though: some people will turn what they have into more, while others will not. Therefore, by the end of the very first year (not to mention the first five or ten) “haves” and “have-nots” will appear.” What if we just gave everybody the same amount of wealth? | John Hawkins' Right Wing News




Clearly, the reparations thing has some hidden agenda behind it.

Reparations…..meaningless. It is values, upbringing, character that makes the difference.
Veiled racism.

where do you see racism? What do you imagine would be the outcome if every person "of color" got a reparation check of $50,000 ? THE END OF THE
""DISPARITY""?
Dude you could give them all the money in the world, and they’d fail
Since whites were given everything, I do believe that if we are given everything whites have got since 1776, whites would be in a hurt locker.
Most whites in the USA are poor
Many are not getting by
The average white family has 15 times the wealth of a black family. I said what I did because the facts support it. Whites like you run your mouth about crime rates, well lets look at this rate-1 out of every 4 blacks live in or under poverty and 1 out of every 9 whites do. When you try your racist arguments do not try them with a black person who spent 32 years doing social work. Every opinion you guys have posted in this thread has been wrong.
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
. Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “

They have some stupendously successful negroes here. No time for them to pull the race card.
Out of 47.8 million blacks there are 36,000 worth at least 1 million. That's less than 1/10th of one percent. Now since whites invented the race card and keep dealing themselves all the card, I have to laugh at the psychosis that allows you to black reality out of your mind.



"If there were a contest for the most stupid idea in politics, my choice would be the assumption that people would be evenly or randomly distributed in incomes, institutions, occupations or awards, in the absence of somebody doing somebody wrong."
Thomas Sowell - The Dumbest Idea
That is a stupid quote. No one expects everyone to succeed at the same level but relatively equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color should occur. Your brain is malfunctioning. You think you say smart things then this stuff comes out.


"....equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color..."


Spoken like a true racist, Corky.

So, you're a government school grad, huh?
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.

We’ve discussed education levels. Mine is pretty stellar, better than yours which you wave around here in front of these mostly under-educated posters like it gives you value. It doesn’t. Your posts are simply transparent.



'Dodge'??????

Did you say I 'dodged' something, Corky?????


Seems you're still dodging this:


Corky, there is no racism.

It's life choices.

Let's put a cork in your pie hole again.....


Watch how deftly I do this......the education gap is perhaps the greatest determiner of wealth vs poverty.,



Get ready:

Let's begin here.....as you blame white folks and racism for all of your inadequacies, can you answer this query?



With respect to the education gap, how is it that 'racism' is responsible for these areas in which black students fall short when compared to white and Asian students:

The number of days absent from school

The number of hours spent watching TV

The number of pages read for homework

Quantity and quality of reading material in the home

The presence of two parents in the home.




Another cork, huh?

no chic-----it's not really choices-----it is NURTURE.
In common lingo it is the social conditioning of the
child------which is determined by the nurture of the mother, the grandmother, the great-grandmother. -------........ (as x approaches infinity) As to the stability of the TWO PARENT MODEL------another aspect of
the social conditioning of the population------ie---not all people do the two parent thing which----IN US SOCIETY is so important


Nurture, upbringing, results in choices.

The 'two parent thing' is the critical difference between societal success and failure.


I recommend that you pick up
View attachment 369912

  1. One change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.
“For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage” For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage
“One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, …” Ibid.

  1. "The elites must preach what they practice." Charles Murray
That uses outcomes to predict outcomes. Going to college is an output not an input. Surely you recognize that? It still hinges on your core belief that black people make these wrong choices where white people dont. The driver of that is either systemic... or the racists are right.
 
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11. One more example of how disingenuous the argument for reparations is.

“Reparations demonstrably would be effective if an improved position for blacks is associated with sharp and enduring reductions in racial disparities, particularly economic disparities like racial wealth inequality, and corresponding sharp and enduring improvements in black well-being.”

Focus on the word ‘enduring.’


Why would handing a huge check over to a person who hasn’t managed to progress financially, and how would same make that person permanently....enduringly.... financially secure?

Of course it wouldn’t. The same things would happen to the government largesse that happened to any other money they had before.




“…. by the end of the first year, some people will have more than others. Guaranteed. Some people, you see, will be careful with what they have. Others won’t. Some people will gamble, others will save. Some will spend lavishly, others will be frugal.

Besides that, some people simply have more of the kind of wealth that can’t be redistributed. Intelligence; education; ambition. Drive, as opposed to: aw, we’re gonna get what we’re gonna get anyway, so let’s just stay on the couch and watch TV. Some people will put a little giddy-up in their get-alongs, and will find ways to improve their own lives.

Some of that will be “unfair,” because some people have more and better resources to tap. Intelligence; talent; family. Even accounting for such differences, though: some people will turn what they have into more, while others will not. Therefore, by the end of the very first year (not to mention the first five or ten) “haves” and “have-nots” will appear.” What if we just gave everybody the same amount of wealth? | John Hawkins' Right Wing News




Clearly, the reparations thing has some hidden agenda behind it.

Reparations…..meaningless. It is values, upbringing, character that makes the difference.
Veiled racism.

where do you see racism? What do you imagine would be the outcome if every person "of color" got a reparation check of $50,000 ? THE END OF THE
""DISPARITY""?
Dude you could give them all the money in the world, and they’d fail
Since whites were given everything, I do believe that if we are given everything whites have got since 1776, whites would be in a hurt locker.
Most whites in the USA are poor
Many are not getting by
The average white family has 15 times the wealth of a black family. I said what I did because the facts support it. Whites like you run your mouth about crime rates, well lets look at this rate-1 out of every 4 blacks live in or under poverty and 1 out of every 9 whites do. When you try your racist arguments do not try them with a black person who spent 32 years doing social work. Every opinion you guys have posted in this thread has been wrong.
Blacks are more successful in USA than anywhere on the planet
. Much of the poor black community Is poor based on “ bad decisions “

They have some stupendously successful negroes here. No time for them to pull the race card.
Out of 47.8 million blacks there are 36,000 worth at least 1 million. That's less than 1/10th of one percent. Now since whites invented the race card and keep dealing themselves all the card, I have to laugh at the psychosis that allows you to black reality out of your mind.



"If there were a contest for the most stupid idea in politics, my choice would be the assumption that people would be evenly or randomly distributed in incomes, institutions, occupations or awards, in the absence of somebody doing somebody wrong."
Thomas Sowell - The Dumbest Idea
That is a stupid quote. No one expects everyone to succeed at the same level but relatively equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color should occur. Your brain is malfunctioning. You think you say smart things then this stuff comes out.


"....equal distributions based on eye color hair color and skin color..."


Spoken like a true racist, Corky.

So, you're a government school grad, huh?
You continue to dodge and everyone on here can see it. You believe black people simply make all the wrong life choices. Why is that? It’s as plain as your fake bio.

We’ve discussed education levels. Mine is pretty stellar, better than yours which you wave around here in front of these mostly under-educated posters like it gives you value. It doesn’t. Your posts are simply transparent.



'Dodge'??????

Did you say I 'dodged' something, Corky?????


Seems you're still dodging this:


Corky, there is no racism.

It's life choices.

Let's put a cork in your pie hole again.....


Watch how deftly I do this......the education gap is perhaps the greatest determiner of wealth vs poverty.,



Get ready:

Let's begin here.....as you blame white folks and racism for all of your inadequacies, can you answer this query?



With respect to the education gap, how is it that 'racism' is responsible for these areas in which black students fall short when compared to white and Asian students:

The number of days absent from school

The number of hours spent watching TV

The number of pages read for homework

Quantity and quality of reading material in the home

The presence of two parents in the home.




Another cork, huh?

no chic-----it's not really choices-----it is NURTURE.
In common lingo it is the social conditioning of the
child------which is determined by the nurture of the mother, the grandmother, the great-grandmother. -------........ (as x approaches infinity) As to the stability of the TWO PARENT MODEL------another aspect of
the social conditioning of the population------ie---not all people do the two parent thing which----IN US SOCIETY is so important


Nurture, upbringing, results in choices.

The 'two parent thing' is the critical difference between societal success and failure.


I recommend that you pick up
View attachment 369912

  1. One change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.
“For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage” For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage
“One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, …” Ibid.

  1. "The elites must preach what they practice." Charles Murray

TRADITION-----it is almost impossible to eliminate
traditional child-rearing practices. I believe that some of the dysfunction of black families is a left over from
subsaharan tribal concept of "family" which worked in that context but does not work in the USA
 

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