How DO you guys do it?

[bendog]

You can't even follow your own gd link. You are pathetic and unworthy of futher communication. GTFO


Reid said a wider deal, involving entitlement cuts, could happen next year if mainstream Republicans can take control of the GOP away from the Tea Party.

The Democratic leader signaled that he could be open to minor trimming of some Medicare or Social Security spending as part of deal that involves tax revenue. Obama in his last budget included more means testing for Medicare and lower Social Security benefits as part of a new inflation calculation.

“The president has stuck is neck out ... there has to be some reciprocity here,” he said.

Asked about entitlements, Reid said: “I am happy to do that on some grand bargain ... that is not going to happen this time.”



Read more: Reid rules out grand bargain - The Hill's On The Money
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[Soggy in NOLA]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

We're all warmed by the fires started by others; liberals understand this while conservatives were born on 2nd base but insist that they hit a double.

No doubt this what you think...... typical victim.. everybody else has it better and of course they don't deserve it, but you do because somehow you're special.

Here's your participation trophy.. now go away.

 

[JoeNormal]

No, it's your leftard masters which brainwash you with talking points and you are obviously unable to think for yourself, otherwise any standard adult with a standard IQ and basic knowledge of math and statistics and miniscule critical thinking skills would realize that the SS which was enacted when life expectancy was 62 years won't work when life expectancy is 80+ and the amount of retirees and other "takers" exceeds the amount of "givers" to the system, so the system HAS TO be reformed, otherwise you really won't receive anything.

But the dumbos like yourself are, obviously, lower in their IQ that an average adult and all they can do is parrot the leftard talking points.

The Repblicans like Romney and Ryan would like to do away with SS. And a lot of the people who are already receiving it seem to think that's a good idea. Talk about brainwashed.

keep parroting the idiocy

the dimocraps kicking the can down the road are only causing the system to go away by itself by 2025.
Enjoy your retirement without SS

If our illustrious leaders wouldn't have messed with it, it would have supposedly lasted for 75 years. 'Loans' taken from it are still supposed to be paid back but apparently, you'd like that debt forgiven. Yup, you're a brainiac alright.

 

[JoeNormal]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

We're all warmed by the fires started by others; liberals understand this while conservatives were born on 2nd base but insist that they hit a double.

No doubt this what you think...... typical victim.. everybody else has it better and of course they don't deserve it, but you do because somehow you're special.

Here's your participation trophy.. now go away.

How does one read what she said and come away with 'they don't deserve it'?

 

[Ernie S.]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I worked my ass off for 46 years and my employers and I paid about $500,000 into Social Security. Had I been given the opportunity to invest that money myself, I would have a couple million in that account today. I have no qualms whatsoever about collecting a check every month.
If I live another 20 years, I will recover about 2/3 of what my bosses and I put in and nothing will go to my kids compared to the > 1.5 million if I spent the same amount/month from a private account.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

We're all warmed by the fires started by others; liberals understand this while conservatives were born on 2nd base but insist that they hit a double.

No doubt this what you think...... typical victim.. everybody else has it better and of course they don't deserve it, but you do because somehow you're special.

Here's your participation trophy.. now go away.

How does one read what she said and come away with 'they don't deserve it'?

Then why say this? What exactly does it mean then?

I'll wait...

 

[JoeNormal]

No doubt this what you think...... typical victim.. everybody else has it better and of course they don't deserve it, but you do because somehow you're special.

Here's your participation trophy.. now go away.

How does one read what she said and come away with 'they don't deserve it'?

Then why say this? What exactly does it mean then?

I'll wait...

It means they should STFU about the programs that have been put in place to support people less fortunate.

 

[JoeNormal]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I worked my ass off for 46 years and my employers and I paid about $500,000 into Social Security. Had I been given the opportunity to invest that money myself, I would have a couple million in that account today. I have no qualms whatsoever about collecting a check every month.
If I live another 20 years, I will recover about 2/3 of what my bosses and I put in and nothing will go to my kids compared to the > 1.5 million if I spent the same amount/month from a private account.

It might be worth 1.5 mil today if some Wall Street douchebag hadn't tanked it. That's far from certain. I've watched my 401k rise slowly and fall like a toilet flush three times. No more. I cashed out early this time and went for stability.

I'm sure it feels to you like you could've done better. Statistics on the elderly in the pre-SS days tell a different story. Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

 

[Redfish]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I worked my ass off for 46 years and my employers and I paid about $500,000 into Social Security. Had I been given the opportunity to invest that money myself, I would have a couple million in that account today. I have no qualms whatsoever about collecting a check every month.
If I live another 20 years, I will recover about 2/3 of what my bosses and I put in and nothing will go to my kids compared to the > 1.5 million if I spent the same amount/month from a private account.

It might be worth 1.5 mil today if some Wall Street douchebag hadn't tanked it. That's far from certain. I've watched my 401k rise slowly and fall like a toilet flush three times. No more. I cashed out early this time and went for stability.

I'm sure it feels to you like you could've done better. Statistics on the elderly in the pre-SS days tell a different story. Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

where is it written that stock market growth is guaranteed? You took a gamble and lost by not getting out at the right time. "ya gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em".

Its no ones fault but yours, grow the fuck up.

 

[JoeNormal]

I worked my ass off for 46 years and my employers and I paid about $500,000 into Social Security. Had I been given the opportunity to invest that money myself, I would have a couple million in that account today. I have no qualms whatsoever about collecting a check every month.
If I live another 20 years, I will recover about 2/3 of what my bosses and I put in and nothing will go to my kids compared to the > 1.5 million if I spent the same amount/month from a private account.

It might be worth 1.5 mil today if some Wall Street douchebag hadn't tanked it. That's far from certain. I've watched my 401k rise slowly and fall like a toilet flush three times. No more. I cashed out early this time and went for stability.

I'm sure it feels to you like you could've done better. Statistics on the elderly in the pre-SS days tell a different story. Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

where is it written that stock market growth is guaranteed? You took a gamble and lost by not getting out at the right time. "ya gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em".

Its no ones fault but yours, grow the fuck up.

JFC, did you read Ernie's post? Gawd, it's a wonder some of you people know how to log in.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

Stupid question and the answer(s) are obvious if you think about it.

People could be here for many reasons.

Some are retired and drawing social security. SS is mandatory, regardless of what your income was. It was something people were forced to pay into their entire lives and the amount that most get back in monthly payments don't begin to add up to what they and their employers paid in. Do not ever confuse earned benefits with welfare. Military retirement and social security are true entitlements. People have no choice when it comes to Medicare either. That is the government forcing people into programs and then patting themselves on the back for helping people. Just like Obama and his thugs are praising themselves for forcing Obamacare on people. It's no where near as good as the private sector and they are making things more expensive while reducing the quality. Only the subsidized are happy with government. The people who spend their whole lives paying get short changed. Welfare is NOT an entitlement, it is a hand out, and politicians should be ashamed for treating it like an earned benefit. They rename things to pander to their voters.

Millions of people are unemployed now, though are no longer counted when the unemployment rate is calculated. Many of those exhausted their unemployment benefits or have settled for a part time job. I don't blame them for expressing themselves here or anywhere else. Don't confuse people who lost their jobs and are unable to find another one with those who never wanted a job to begin with.

Some people work from their homes and might blow off steam on their breaks. Deal with it. After all, you claimed to have been here long enough to read enough posts to determine the content and frequency of posts written by a great many members. It's reasonable to assume you have a great deal of time on your hands. Funny that someone who spends a lot of time on a message board has the nerve to pick on others who do the same. So, do you exist on entitlements or welfare?

Then there are those who have time on their hands because they don't attend school or work or they are government dependents (as in collecting benefits they did not earn) and some might even get paid to attack political dissenters and spout talking points. These are the easiest ones to spot because their posts demonstrate a gross lack of intelligence and they are incapable of debate. Their posts lack substance and they rarely engage with anyone who questions them or disagrees with the talking points. Usually, the poster quickly results to name calling.

Of course, your question wasn't asked because you honestly wonder about the employment or retirement status of posters or whether they should somehow feel guilty for getting a little check each month (and have no choice). No one ever asked them how they felt paying in thousands of dollars each year while they were working. Do you wonder how people feel about that?

You merely thought you'd pretend to have completed an intense study of this board in order to take a cheap shot at retirees who collect a measly monthly check that took them a lifetime to earn. Social Security was a liberal idea that is proving to be unsustainable, as many warned at the time. It's a shame that people like Obama's aunt, who is here illegally, manage to collect social security disability while living for free in a nice apartment and handed everything they need. Nothing is free. Someone has to pay and the government takes more and more from the people with little regard to the hardships they cause. While they go out of their way to ensure that the illegal aliens are made comfortable and work shy have everything they need, they give no consideration to the working families who sacrifice more and more just so the politicians can cater to their base and win votes.

Then we have the smart asses, like yourself, who come here and make snide remarks that people posting must be recipients of handouts and, therefore, hypocrites who complain about free loaders. If you don't know the difference between qualifying for social security and welfare, then you are not qualified to discuss true entitlements.

Bingo, I had hoped someone would express these sentiments. Here's the thing, I don't criticize people who collect Social Security or Medicare. Unemployment either for that matter. I'm one of the 'leftists' who think they are necessary in a complex society. It's the right wingers - many of whom are retired and in their own view (if they weren't blind hypocrites) are the takers.

Here's another thing, it's the Republican scumbags who they want to elect who'll try to prevent me from ever collecting on the money that my employers and I have contributed to the system for almost 40 years now.

As for the time I spend here, I'm a fast reader and can skim through a ton of posts in between doing what I get paid to do. Certain patterns emerge...

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

How does one read what she said and come away with 'they don't deserve it'?

Then why say this? What exactly does it mean then?

I'll wait...

It means they should STFU about the programs that have been put in place to support people less fortunate.

Uhm, how dumb are you.. SS, Medicare & UI were put into place to help the less fortunate?

You do realize that the evil 2nd basers are mostly self employed, therefore they pay ALL of their SS, Med & UI premiums.. right... not just the employee portion but the employer portion as well.

Idiot.

 

[Redfish]

It might be worth 1.5 mil today if some Wall Street douchebag hadn't tanked it. That's far from certain. I've watched my 401k rise slowly and fall like a toilet flush three times. No more. I cashed out early this time and went for stability.

I'm sure it feels to you like you could've done better. Statistics on the elderly in the pre-SS days tell a different story. Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

where is it written that stock market growth is guaranteed? You took a gamble and lost by not getting out at the right time. "ya gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em".

Its no ones fault but yours, grow the fuck up.

JFC, did you read Ernie's post? Gawd, it's a wonder some of you people know how to log in.

yes, you are blaming your loss on a "wallstreet douchbag". Unlike you, I tell my broker what to do with my money. I don't just sit on my ass and trust him to always do the right thing.

its typical of liberals to always blame someone else rather than take personal responsibility for anything-----your messiah in the whitehouse is doing the exact same thing.

 

[Ernie S.]

Bingo, I had hoped someone would express these sentiments. Here's the thing, I don't criticize people who collect Social Security or Medicare. Unemployment either for that matter. I'm one of the 'leftists' who think they are necessary in a complex society. It's the right wingers - many of whom are retired and in their own view (if they weren't blind hypocrites) are the takers.

Here's another thing, it's the Republican scumbags who they want to elect who'll try to prevent me from ever collecting on the money that my employers and I have contributed to the system for almost 40 years now.

As for the time I spend here, I'm a fast reader and can skim through a ton of posts in between doing what I get paid to do. Certain patterns emerge...

No, it's your leftard masters which brainwash you with talking points and you are obviously unable to think for yourself, otherwise any standard adult with a standard IQ and basic knowledge of math and statistics and miniscule critical thinking skills would realize that the SS which was enacted when life expectancy was 62 years won't work when life expectancy is 80+ and the amount of retirees and other "takers" exceeds the amount of "givers" to the system, so the system HAS TO be reformed, otherwise you really won't receive anything.

But the dumbos like yourself are, obviously, lower in their IQ that an average adult and all they can do is parrot the leftard talking points.

It's the TPM holding up reform. Obama, incompetent as he is, has agreed to up the ages and even means test. But, doing something requires both sides compromise. And the TPM will primary any goper who'd agree to something like hiking the cap on taxes. And, seriously, if you want a free market for healthcare decsions when one in three seniors will have some form of dementia, you are seriously out of your mind.

Seriously! You want to raise the age, means test AND up the maximum contribution?

When I received my first paycheck, I essentially entered into a contract with the government. My employer and I would each contribute 7.5% of my earnings into a "lock box" that would start paying me a monthly benefit at 62 years of age. If I elected to wait until 65, I would get more of my money back.
For most of my career, the maximum contribution was just out of my reach though I did hit it, maybe 10 times out of 46 years paying in.

So, over the years, I've, on my own, managed to save some money as any responsible person should have and I receive interest and dividends from investments and YOU seem to think that I earn to much to receive what I've paid for all my life? You think that contract I entered into when I was 16 is void? That you can decide that I must wait a few more years to collect MY money? Fuck off!

 

[Pogo]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

Regardless of positions on 'entitlement' programs, you're prolly pretty close with the retired category. Though we have no way to determine, I would guess the average age on this board, or any political board, somewhat mirrors the way a radio program director described the average age of the Rush Limbaugh listener -- "deceased".

For me that's partly the case (semi-retired, not deceased) but also simply that when I'm working there are long periods of doing nothing but monitoring events, and the laptop and this board are convenient distractions to keep me awake.

Sometimes too convenient.

 

[Pogo]

I won the lottery. Anybody need any money?

Hey, I'll take a chunk of cash to fund a study on the demographics of Fox Noise viewership.

I'll even let you post the results.

 

[Vox]

The Repblicans like Romney and Ryan would like to do away with SS. And a lot of the people who are already receiving it seem to think that's a good idea. Talk about brainwashed.

keep parroting the idiocy

the dimocraps kicking the can down the road are only causing the system to go away by itself by 2025.
Enjoy your retirement without SS

If our illustrious leaders wouldn't have messed with it, it would have supposedly lasted for 75 years. 'Loans' taken from it are still supposed to be paid back but apparently, you'd like that debt forgiven. Yup, you're a brainiac alright.

remind me what party was mostly in power for the last 80years?

riiiiiiight, it were YOUR illustrious leaders who have messed it up. but the leftard brainwashed parrot like yourself can't connect the dots, can you?

 

[Vox]

You can't even follow your own gd link. You are pathetic and unworthy of futher communication. GTFO


Reid said a wider deal, involving entitlement cuts, could happen next year if mainstream Republicans can take control of the GOP away from the Tea Party.

The Democratic leader signaled that he could be open to minor trimming of some Medicare or Social Security spending as part of deal that involves tax revenue. Obama in his last budget included more means testing for Medicare and lower Social Security benefits as part of a new inflation calculation.

“The president has stuck is neck out ... there has to be some reciprocity here,” he said.

Asked about entitlements, Reid said: “I am happy to do that on some grand bargain ... that is not going to happen this time.”



Read more: Reid rules out grand bargain - The Hill's On The Money
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it is you who are pathetic.

you think I trust the leftard media on their blame the TP or boosh all the time?

but even those pathetic liars put the truth out there - it is your party brainwashing machine a.k.a. reid and pelosi who would NOT touch the entitlements and would not even approach any talks about the reform of SS and medicare.
that is just the latest - and that has been there all the time.

but your huffpost and msnbc will spew the lies about TP yet again.

or is it still BOOOOOOOSH fault?

 

[TemplarKormac]

I won the lottery. Anybody need any money?

Hey, I'll take a chunk of cash to fund a study on the demographics of Fox Noise viewership.

I'll even let you post the results.

And you accuse me of acting childish. When you accuse someone of watching "Fox Noise" that means you never had a real point to make in the first place. That's almost up there with blaming Bush for everything. How desperate are you?

 

[bendog]

No, it's your leftard masters which brainwash you with talking points and you are obviously unable to think for yourself, otherwise any standard adult with a standard IQ and basic knowledge of math and statistics and miniscule critical thinking skills would realize that the SS which was enacted when life expectancy was 62 years won't work when life expectancy is 80+ and the amount of retirees and other "takers" exceeds the amount of "givers" to the system, so the system HAS TO be reformed, otherwise you really won't receive anything.

But the dumbos like yourself are, obviously, lower in their IQ that an average adult and all they can do is parrot the leftard talking points.

It's the TPM holding up reform. Obama, incompetent as he is, has agreed to up the ages and even means test. But, doing something requires both sides compromise. And the TPM will primary any goper who'd agree to something like hiking the cap on taxes. And, seriously, if you want a free market for healthcare decsions when one in three seniors will have some form of dementia, you are seriously out of your mind.

Seriously! You want to raise the age, means test AND up the maximum contribution?

When I received my first paycheck, I essentially entered into a contract with the government. My employer and I would each contribute 7.5% of my earnings into a "lock box" that would start paying me a monthly benefit at 62 years of age. If I elected to wait until 65, I would get more of my money back.
For most of my career, the maximum contribution was just out of my reach though I did hit it, maybe 10 times out of 46 years paying in.

So, over the years, I've, on my own, managed to save some money as any responsible person should have and I receive interest and dividends from investments and YOU seem to think that I earn to much to receive what I've paid for all my life? You think that contract I entered into when I was 16 is void? That you can decide that I must wait a few more years to collect MY money? Fuck off!

Well, as I recall, it was the gop that at one time said it might be open to means testing. I'm not really sure how the dems fell out on this, as they've pretty much been more about lifting the cap.

I'm pretty much in the same position you are, though I have no deisre to retire prior to 70, and even then I'll keep working a few years if I can. But, yeah, I'm close to losing some benefit to means testing.

It sucks. But, at this point, I'm really mostly interested in preserving the programs for my kid. I shoudl not starve ... assuming we still have some form of medicare. The current system is unsustainable w/o some cost incentetive to consume less stuff. Vouchers are not the way to go when 1/3 will have some dementia.

At any rate, Mitch McConnell is right about the gop needing to get the lying crazies out of running the power.