How DO you guys do it?

[bendog]

You can't even follow your own gd link. You are pathetic and unworthy of futher communication. GTFO


Reid said a wider deal, involving entitlement cuts, could happen next year if mainstream Republicans can take control of the GOP away from the Tea Party.

The Democratic leader signaled that he could be open to minor trimming of some Medicare or Social Security spending as part of deal that involves tax revenue. Obama in his last budget included more means testing for Medicare and lower Social Security benefits as part of a new inflation calculation.

“The president has stuck is neck out ... there has to be some reciprocity here,” he said.

Asked about entitlements, Reid said: “I am happy to do that on some grand bargain ... that is not going to happen this time.”



Read more: Reid rules out grand bargain - The Hill's On The Money
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it is you who are pathetic.

you think I trust the leftard media on their blame the TP or boosh all the time?

but even those pathetic liars put the truth out there - it is your party brainwashing machine a.k.a. reid and pelosi who would NOT touch the entitlements and would not even approach any talks about the reform of SS and medicare.
that is just the latest - and that has been there all the time.

but your huffpost and msnbc will spew the lies about TP yet again.

or is it still BOOOOOOOSH fault?

you post a link proving your own post was bullshit and bitch at me? And then pull the bushii cardo. blow it out your ass

 

[Pogo]

I won the lottery. Anybody need any money?

Hey, I'll take a chunk of cash to fund a study on the demographics of Fox Noise viewership.

I'll even let you post the results.

And you accuse me of acting childish. When you accuse someone of watching "Fox Noise" that means you never had a real point to make in the first place. That's almost up there with blaming Bush for everything. How desperate are you?

And a pleasant good morning to you too, TK

No one said you were "childish" but it's good to know the occasional word wit is verboten here. And it's news to me that wordplay has something to do with Bush, although now that you mention it...

That's an inside joke. If you must know the backstory, S.J. once accused me of being "racist" because I quoted some demographics noting that the audience of Fox Noise is overwhelmingly white. Seriously. He's never backed down from it, so I never back down from reminding and mocking him. Now that you know the background you can share the chuckle too.

HTH.

PS I'm sure by the time this post goes up you will have dutifully excoriated Vox for "pathetic brainwashed leftard parrots" and all that, because I know you're consistent.



{edit: ruh-roh, nothing there. The Templar computer must be down. I has a sad }

 

[Vox]

You can't even follow your own gd link. You are pathetic and unworthy of futher communication. GTFO


Reid said a wider deal, involving entitlement cuts, could happen next year if mainstream Republicans can take control of the GOP away from the Tea Party.

The Democratic leader signaled that he could be open to minor trimming of some Medicare or Social Security spending as part of deal that involves tax revenue. Obama in his last budget included more means testing for Medicare and lower Social Security benefits as part of a new inflation calculation.

“The president has stuck is neck out ... there has to be some reciprocity here,” he said.

Asked about entitlements, Reid said: “I am happy to do that on some grand bargain ... that is not going to happen this time.”



Read more: Reid rules out grand bargain - The Hill's On The Money
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it is you who are pathetic.

you think I trust the leftard media on their blame the TP or boosh all the time?

but even those pathetic liars put the truth out there - it is your party brainwashing machine a.k.a. reid and pelosi who would NOT touch the entitlements and would not even approach any talks about the reform of SS and medicare.
that is just the latest - and that has been there all the time.

but your huffpost and msnbc will spew the lies about TP yet again.

or is it still BOOOOOOOSH fault?

you post a link proving your own post was bullshit and bitch at me? And then pull the bushii cardo. blow it out your ass

my link proved MY POINT EXACTLY.

that the leftards as usual lie and blame booosh or TP is not a proof of your lies either, it is just a mantra

the link to the LEFTARD source confirmed that reid will not touch entitlements - as I stated - what lies does he spew around while admitting HE won't touch them is irrelevant.

 

[Ernie S.]

I worked my ass off for 46 years and my employers and I paid about $500,000 into Social Security. Had I been given the opportunity to invest that money myself, I would have a couple million in that account today. I have no qualms whatsoever about collecting a check every month.
If I live another 20 years, I will recover about 2/3 of what my bosses and I put in and nothing will go to my kids compared to the > 1.5 million if I spent the same amount/month from a private account.

It might be worth 1.5 mil today if some Wall Street douchebag hadn't tanked it. That's far from certain. I've watched my 401k rise slowly and fall like a toilet flush three times. No more. I cashed out early this time and went for stability.

I'm sure it feels to you like you could've done better. Statistics on the elderly in the pre-SS days tell a different story. Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

where is it written that stock market growth is guaranteed? You took a gamble and lost by not getting out at the right time. "ya gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em".

Its no ones fault but yours, grow the fuck up.

I saw my investments sour a few times as well, but I had money in precious metals, annuities CD's as well as mutual funds.
When considering self managed investments to replace SS, one must look at the long haul.
Over the 46 years that I paid into SS, I have essentially lost 1/3 of my investment if I live another 20 years. Had I followed my own investment plan, I would have realized an 11% ROI. Sure! There have been 3 or 4 bad stretches over that time, but, except for 1929, few who diversified have been wiped out.
Back in '89, a friend and mentor told me that on Black Monday, he had lost $12 million. He then smiled and added, "But I have $40 million left."
I'm sure he's regained that $12 mil loss 10 fold by now.

 

[Ernie S.]

The whole concept of means testing irks the shit out of me!

Let's take 2 people who need a car. Joe Blow makes $30K/year and decides on a Ford Focus. He pays $200/month for 5 years and owns a car.

I make $120K/year and decide I can afford to buy a Lincoln. I agree to pay $800/month for 5 years and half way through my contract, Ford decides I make too much money and takes away my car.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I won the lottery. Anybody need any money?

hey i just won 10 bucks on a scratcher.....im loaded....

 

[Harry Dresden]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I think you're onto something there.

There is a reason why right-wing hate radio and FOX Noise have no competition, and it's because out in the real world, liberals are out working and taking care of everything while mostly old and white people sit around sucking us dry while complaining about the fact that we have to support their dumb asses.

Nobody will ever beat FOX because they have the channel on all day and night.

The greatest irony in American politics is that Republicans get more than 2% of the vote. We all understand why a Mitt Romney type would vote for them, but it makes no sense that old white people on entitlements continue to vote for them, since all they wanna do is get rid of their Social Security and Medicare.

I think the trick in understanding all these leeches is that they're programmed to think that illegal immigrants and blacks are the only "takers", when in fact the takers are sitting on their asses all day getting taken care of because of the rest of us.

My parents live part of the year in a condo in Florida. There is a retired military guy who owns two places there and owns a fleet of fancy cars because of all the bloat in the military welfare complex. He gets contracted out to do the most menial "consulting" work that lasts only maybe 1 day a week, but gets more than six figures a year in taxpayer money to do his meaningless job.

And of course he's a Republican ass hole who thinks illegals and blacks are "takers" and "lazy", when in fact it's douchebags like that guy who are a drain on us.

Vets should be set up for the rest of their lives, but the idea of just throwing oodles of our cash at people who don't need it is appalling.

Doesn't occur to losers like that guy that he's the real welfare queen in America, not the single mom who needs a little help in the form of food stamps.

and yet its a lot of "Liberals" here that tell us what was being talked about on Fox....

 

[JoeNormal]

Stupid question and the answer(s) are obvious if you think about it.

People could be here for many reasons.

Some are retired and drawing social security. SS is mandatory, regardless of what your income was. It was something people were forced to pay into their entire lives and the amount that most get back in monthly payments don't begin to add up to what they and their employers paid in. Do not ever confuse earned benefits with welfare. Military retirement and social security are true entitlements. People have no choice when it comes to Medicare either. That is the government forcing people into programs and then patting themselves on the back for helping people. Just like Obama and his thugs are praising themselves for forcing Obamacare on people. It's no where near as good as the private sector and they are making things more expensive while reducing the quality. Only the subsidized are happy with government. The people who spend their whole lives paying get short changed. Welfare is NOT an entitlement, it is a hand out, and politicians should be ashamed for treating it like an earned benefit. They rename things to pander to their voters.

Millions of people are unemployed now, though are no longer counted when the unemployment rate is calculated. Many of those exhausted their unemployment benefits or have settled for a part time job. I don't blame them for expressing themselves here or anywhere else. Don't confuse people who lost their jobs and are unable to find another one with those who never wanted a job to begin with.

Some people work from their homes and might blow off steam on their breaks. Deal with it. After all, you claimed to have been here long enough to read enough posts to determine the content and frequency of posts written by a great many members. It's reasonable to assume you have a great deal of time on your hands. Funny that someone who spends a lot of time on a message board has the nerve to pick on others who do the same. So, do you exist on entitlements or welfare?

Then there are those who have time on their hands because they don't attend school or work or they are government dependents (as in collecting benefits they did not earn) and some might even get paid to attack political dissenters and spout talking points. These are the easiest ones to spot because their posts demonstrate a gross lack of intelligence and they are incapable of debate. Their posts lack substance and they rarely engage with anyone who questions them or disagrees with the talking points. Usually, the poster quickly results to name calling.

Of course, your question wasn't asked because you honestly wonder about the employment or retirement status of posters or whether they should somehow feel guilty for getting a little check each month (and have no choice). No one ever asked them how they felt paying in thousands of dollars each year while they were working. Do you wonder how people feel about that?

You merely thought you'd pretend to have completed an intense study of this board in order to take a cheap shot at retirees who collect a measly monthly check that took them a lifetime to earn. Social Security was a liberal idea that is proving to be unsustainable, as many warned at the time. It's a shame that people like Obama's aunt, who is here illegally, manage to collect social security disability while living for free in a nice apartment and handed everything they need. Nothing is free. Someone has to pay and the government takes more and more from the people with little regard to the hardships they cause. While they go out of their way to ensure that the illegal aliens are made comfortable and work shy have everything they need, they give no consideration to the working families who sacrifice more and more just so the politicians can cater to their base and win votes.

Then we have the smart asses, like yourself, who come here and make snide remarks that people posting must be recipients of handouts and, therefore, hypocrites who complain about free loaders. If you don't know the difference between qualifying for social security and welfare, then you are not qualified to discuss true entitlements.

Bingo, I had hoped someone would express these sentiments. Here's the thing, I don't criticize people who collect Social Security or Medicare. Unemployment either for that matter. I'm one of the 'leftists' who think they are necessary in a complex society. It's the right wingers - many of whom are retired and in their own view (if they weren't blind hypocrites) are the takers.

Here's another thing, it's the Republican scumbags who they want to elect who'll try to prevent me from ever collecting on the money that my employers and I have contributed to the system for almost 40 years now.

As for the time I spend here, I'm a fast reader and can skim through a ton of posts in between doing what I get paid to do. Certain patterns emerge...

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

I guess I need to explicitly state this: You are perfectly entitled to your Social Security. I'll be perfectly entitled to my Social Security when I reach the proper age. What I'm criticizing is the people who spend so much time here that they must be on some kind of entitlement program yet think that all entitlements should be done away with.

 

[The Rabbi]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

We're all warmed by the fires started by others; liberals understand this while conservatives were born on 2nd base but insist that they hit a double.

You didnt build that!

Actually there seem to be several types here. The conservatives are generally entrrepreneurial types or retired from the military.
The libs seem to be living off Mom and Dad or are on disability.

Me, I have a store that experiences lots of very slow times.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Bingo, I had hoped someone would express these sentiments. Here's the thing, I don't criticize people who collect Social Security or Medicare. Unemployment either for that matter. I'm one of the 'leftists' who think they are necessary in a complex society. It's the right wingers - many of whom are retired and in their own view (if they weren't blind hypocrites) are the takers.

Here's another thing, it's the Republican scumbags who they want to elect who'll try to prevent me from ever collecting on the money that my employers and I have contributed to the system for almost 40 years now.

As for the time I spend here, I'm a fast reader and can skim through a ton of posts in between doing what I get paid to do. Certain patterns emerge...

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

I guess I need to explicitly state this: You are perfectly entitled to your Social Security. I'll be perfectly entitled to my Social Security when I reach the proper age. What I'm criticizing is the people who spend so much time here that they must be on some kind of entitlement program yet think that all entitlements should be done away with.

Entitlements, retired, unemployed, all of the above because I think the median age here is at least 60 given the far right pointiness of their heads.

I telecommute via the internet and work in the "Cloud", so I jump to this site for comic relief...sort of like going outside for a cigarette if I worked in a brick-n-mortar.

 

[JoeNormal]

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

I guess I need to explicitly state this: You are perfectly entitled to your Social Security. I'll be perfectly entitled to my Social Security when I reach the proper age. What I'm criticizing is the people who spend so much time here that they must be on some kind of entitlement program yet think that all entitlements should be done away with.

Entitlements, retired, unemployed, all of the above because I think the median age here is at least 60 given the far right pointiness of their heads.

I telecommute via the internet and work in the "Cloud", so I jump to this site for comic relief...sort of like going outside for a cigarette if I worked in a brick-n-mortar.

LOL, you and me both brother.

 

[TooTall]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I think you're onto something there.

There is a reason why right-wing hate radio and FOX Noise have no competition, and it's because out in the real world, liberals are out working and taking care of everything while mostly old and white people sit around sucking us dry while complaining about the fact that we have to support their dumb asses.

Nobody will ever beat FOX because they have the channel on all day and night.

The greatest irony in American politics is that Republicans get more than 2% of the vote. We all understand why a Mitt Romney type would vote for them, but it makes no sense that old white people on entitlements continue to vote for them, since all they wanna do is get rid of their Social Security and Medicare.

I think the trick in understanding all these leeches is that they're programmed to think that illegal immigrants and blacks are the only "takers", when in fact the takers are sitting on their asses all day getting taken care of because of the rest of us.

My parents live part of the year in a condo in Florida. There is a retired military guy who owns two places there and owns a fleet of fancy cars because of all the bloat in the military welfare complex. He gets contracted out to do the most menial "consulting" work that lasts only maybe 1 day a week, but gets more than six figures a year in taxpayer money to do his meaningless job.

And of course he's a Republican ass hole who thinks illegals and blacks are "takers" and "lazy", when in fact it's douchebags like that guy who are a drain on us.

Vets should be set up for the rest of their lives, but the idea of just throwing oodles of our cash at people who don't need it is appalling.

Doesn't occur to losers like that guy that he's the real welfare queen in America, not the single mom who needs a little help in the form of food stamps.

MSNBC and CNN are on all day.

Old white people are not all dumb. Most of them worked all of their lives and paid for their Social Security and Medicare INSURANCE.

The single mom needs a man, preferably the father of her child or children instead of food stamps.

The railing about entitlements is the FACT that they are unsustainable. Are you capable of understanding that?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

Do you get a paycheck? I am guessing you don't since you are oblivious to the fact that Social Security and Medicare are paid for by a lifetime of payroll taxes taken out of your paychecks.

Unemployement is also paid for by insurance taken out of your check, and your employer's income.

Now stop projecting, and go get a job.

They don't take unemployment from your check... it is 100% employer funded based on experience ratings..

 

[Michelle420]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I am a full time student some of my classes are mostly online work.

My partner who travels most of the time pays all the bills.

I spend time here because I am already online doing research for papers and I don't have any friends offline.

 

[Redfish]

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

I guess I need to explicitly state this: You are perfectly entitled to your Social Security. I'll be perfectly entitled to my Social Security when I reach the proper age. What I'm criticizing is the people who spend so much time here that they must be on some kind of entitlement program yet think that all entitlements should be done away with.

Entitlements, retired, unemployed, all of the above because I think the median age here is at least 60 given the far right pointiness of their heads.

I telecommute via the internet and work in the "Cloud", so I jump to this site for comic relief...sort of like going outside for a cigarette if I worked in a brick-n-mortar.

your use of bold type verifies the comic part of your post. Grow up. bolding does not make your case, it makes you look like a fool

 

[Harry Dresden]

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

I guess I need to explicitly state this: You are perfectly entitled to your Social Security. I'll be perfectly entitled to my Social Security when I reach the proper age. What I'm criticizing is the people who spend so much time here that they must be on some kind of entitlement program yet think that all entitlements should be done away with.

Entitlements, retired, unemployed, all of the above because I think the median age here is at least 60 given the far right pointiness of their heads.

I telecommute via the internet and work in the "Cloud", so I jump to this site for comic relief...sort of like going outside for a cigarette if I worked in a brick-n-mortar.

so I jump to this site for comic relief...

and thanx for the laughs you give us with your bullshit you post....

 

[MikeK]

There seem to be a pretty fair number of people who just about live their lives on this board. Most of them seem to rail against entitlements of one form or another. I'm thinking that in order to spend the amount of time on here that some people do, they would almost have to be either retired or unemployed. So how do those views square with either receiving Social Security and Medicare or Unemployment?

I'm retired. I collect Social Security and a civil service pension, both of which are legitimate entitlements, both of which I earned and contributed to and am therefore fully entitled to.

What I "rail" against is the kind of white-collar criminality which is responsible for the economic problems our Nation is experiencing today -- and which is clearly identified in the free video (Inside Job) accessible via my Signature Line (below).

 

[R.C. Christian]

The U.S. government can take their social security check and shove it down their children's mouths. I don't want near it. Won't be there anyway. I hope it's worth it to all you boomers out there who think you're entitled to something at your grand kid's expense.

 

[Moonglow]

Look at all the money we threw at their parents.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Bingo, I had hoped someone would express these sentiments. Here's the thing, I don't criticize people who collect Social Security or Medicare. Unemployment either for that matter. I'm one of the 'leftists' who think they are necessary in a complex society. It's the right wingers - many of whom are retired and in their own view (if they weren't blind hypocrites) are the takers.

Here's another thing, it's the Republican scumbags who they want to elect who'll try to prevent me from ever collecting on the money that my employers and I have contributed to the system for almost 40 years now.

As for the time I spend here, I'm a fast reader and can skim through a ton of posts in between doing what I get paid to do. Certain patterns emerge...

So as a Republican whos paid a crapload into social security,I dont deserve social security? And didnt you say that you dont criticize people who collect SS? Oh I get it...it's only the dirty Republicans who dont deserve SS.
What exactly makes me a taker when you consider I've paid way more in social security payments,then some asswipe who worked at mickyds his whole life?
If it were up to me I would rather keep my own money and invest it as I see fit.
But instead I give it to the government to redistribute to people who aren't smart enough to manage their own money.
And of course this is all fair in your mind. Talk about certain patterns...........

I guess I need to explicitly state this: You are perfectly entitled to your Social Security. I'll be perfectly entitled to my Social Security when I reach the proper age. What I'm criticizing is the people who spend so much time here that they must be on some kind of entitlement program yet think that all entitlements should be done away with.

If you have a legitimate reason to collect an entitlement,you still have the right to complain about those gaming the system. In fact I would say you have more reason then those who dont receive anything.
Not only does it make people who deserve help look like slackers,it removes monies from the system for those who truly need it.