Idea On Voting In Federal Elections, Do You Agree?

[Marener]

I think liberals would want to jump on this because they claim the rich pay no taxes so, if that's true, then the rich wouldn't be able to vote.

Why do you think liberals want to take away the ability for rich people to vote?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Why do you think liberals want to take away the ability for rich people to vote?

same reasons rich people don't want non-property holders to vote

 

[Marener]

same reasons rich people don't want non-property holders to vote

What's that?

 

[Independent thinker]

I never made such a blanket statement. I showed you Trump paid no income tax in 2020. That doesn't mean he didn't pay other taxes that year either. Low income households do pay more as a percent of their income, in the other taxes category as well.

percents don't matter. The rich pay almost all of the taxes.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Marener, tell us what you think the commonality is between the rich and the poor wanting to exclude one another from voting.

 

[Independent thinker]

Why do you think liberals want to take away the ability for rich people to vote?

LOL. Well, they're trying to get Trump off the ballots in states, even if he wins the nomination.

 

[Marener]

LOL. Well, they're trying to get Trump off the ballots in states, even if he wins the nomination.

So your tactic is to just ignore the question that demolishes your argument.

Pretty lame.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

percents don't matter. The rich pay almost all of the taxes.

Because we make almost all the money.

 

[BlindBoo]

percents don't matter. The rich pay almost all of the taxes.

It does to many people.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So your tactic is to just ignore the question that demolishes your argument.

Pretty lame.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Indy

 

[Marener]

Marener, tell us what you think the commonality is between the rich and the poor wanting to exclude one another from voting.

I have no intention of excluding anyone from voting. I can't say that I've ever met any poor person who wants to stop the rich from voting. Why would they? The rich are a tiny sliver of the population and therefore their electoral influence is minimal. Trying to come up with some crazy way to get them to not be allowed to vote would have next to no impact on the elections. Or maybe it's that the poor people simply don't have the mindset that the OP has, specifically they don't think to use the government to take away other people's rights.

 

[Independent thinker]

So your tactic is to just ignore the question that demolishes your argument.

Pretty lame.

Doesn't demolish my argument at all.

 

[Independent thinker]

It does to many people.

Only to the lefties to further their agenda by cherry picking facts to their advantage.

 

[g5000]

I was posting in a thread and my light bulb came on for a voting proposal, which is this:

First, you have to be 18 or older and a US citizen, as well as some other restrictions already on the books. Second, you can only vote in federal elections if you pay federal income taxes. This seems fair to me since a large part of what we are voting for is in how our tax dollars are spent, so, only those actually paying those taxes should decide how they are spent. Those paying no federal income taxes shouldn't get a say in how the tax dollars paid by tax payers is spent.

This should please leftists because they claim many of the rich don't pay federal income taxes or that the rich don't pay their fair share, leaving the voting mostly in the hands of the tax payers who are paying the taxes (the little guys), right?

You are an idiot.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Doesn't demolish my argument at all.

You do not have an argument, you have a stupid ass plan you cannot even answer questions about.

 

[g5000]

To James Madison Fontainebleau, Oct. 28, 1785 < The Letters of Thomas Jefferson 1743-1826 < Thomas Jefferson < Presidents < American History From Revolution To Reconstruction and beyond

The property of this country is absolutely concentred in a very few hands, having revenues of from half a million of guineas a year downwards.

[snip]

I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable, but the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind.

[snip]

Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise.

 

[g5000]

I would suggest an IQ test to vote in federal elections, but then the New Right would lose in all 50 states.

 

[Independent thinker]

You do not have an argument, you have a stupid ass plan you cannot even answer questions about.

It really isn't my plan. The thread was to open discussion and fish out the lefties on this forum who claim the rich pay no taxes. If they really believed that then they should go for this plan. But, they don't, because they know the rich do pay taxes. Not only do they pay taxes, they pay most of the taxes. So, I thought it was funny when one of his questions was if you get one vote for every dollar in taxes you pay. The left surely wouldn't want that.

 

[Marener]

Doesn't demolish my argument at all.

It does. You assume that poor people are as interested in depriving rich people of their rights as rich people are interested in depriving poor people of their rights.

Where did you get your idea that liberals want to take away the voting rights of rich people?

 

[BlindBoo]

Only to the lefties to further their agenda by cherry picking facts to their advantage.

Nope. It's everyday people who live from paycheck to paycheck who are affected by them