Liberals, how do you feel about anti-pitbull legislation?

[Papageorgio]

Shall we kill the pitbulls? They're vicious hate machines. I mean, look at this one, he's coming for you right now.

[Oh my god, he's so fucking cute!]

So please explain how you feel about this. Why is it okay for the government to kill the puppies?

why are you asking "liberals"? most of us like animals.

pits can be very lovable. i think people who make them fight should be outlawed.

So can any other breed. Just pick another breed for God sakes.

Pick any fucking breed you want. Just because they scare you doesn't mean you can ban them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And this is why we need to destroy them. They are dangerous, they are menacing, and there is no reason you need to have one. Children are hurt all the time by pit bulls!

I am for destroying the owners that abuse them and teach them to be dangerous, whether it is intentional or not.

As far as the example cited? Again we need to destroy the owners, not the dog.

You totally reject genetics and selective breeding? You're ignorant. As in ignorant of the facts.

The breeding that went into pit fighting dogs also included a lack of aggression to humans because they had to be handled by humans regularly and safely - which also makes them easy to abuse.

Nah, can't buy that.

People have to be able to handle the dogs, break them up with out getting bitten or redirected aggression.

Someone asked why do we need pitbulls? Because they are great breed of dog, with a wonderful long history with us that is not a history of manic aggression that is so often sensationalized in the media: Breed History | BAD RAP

They're a breed of dog selectively bred to fight. I think we've moved past that as a civilization.

 

[Arianrhod]

No, no, no. You said "Get Rid of Pit Bulls". You want to entirely eliminate the whole breed based on statistics.

So by your same TardLogic[emoji769], we should "Get Rid of Blacks".

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

But as I indicated in the post just above yours, many breeds have been bred specifically for the same characteristics and, when properly trained, do not attack.

 

[Arianrhod]

I am for destroying the owners that abuse them and teach them to be dangerous, whether it is intentional or not.

As far as the example cited? Again we need to destroy the owners, not the dog.

You totally reject genetics and selective breeding? You're ignorant. As in ignorant of the facts.

The breeding that went into pit fighting dogs also included a lack of aggression to humans because they had to be handled by humans regularly and safely - which also makes them easy to abuse.

Nah, can't buy that.

People have to be able to handle the dogs, break them up with out getting bitten or redirected aggression.

Someone asked why do we need pitbulls? Because they are great breed of dog, with a wonderful long history with us that is not a history of manic aggression that is so often sensationalized in the media: Breed History | BAD RAP

They're a breed of dog selectively bred to fight. I think we've moved past that as a civilization.

Yeah, we've got guns.

 

[Papageorgio]

No, no, no. You said "Get Rid of Pit Bulls". You want to entirely eliminate the whole breed based on statistics.

So by your same TardLogic[emoji769], we should "Get Rid of Blacks".

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

Bull shit, the animal was trained. Drop the leash and the dog attacks. You can get labs, rots, dob, bulldog, he'll you can get a poodle to do that.

Just because you are afraid of them doesn't mean you get to ban them.

 

[sealybobo]

We should fix all felons black or white. I agree. They shouldn't breed either.

No, no, no. You said "Get Rid of Pit Bulls". You want to entirely eliminate the whole breed based on statistics.

So by your same TardLogic[emoji769], we should "Get Rid of Blacks".

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I was walking with my mom around her subdivision and saw a dog owner walking his two dogs. Then I saw about 20 other neighbors with dogs. I'm glad none of them were pitbulls. Then I thought, " would I like it if they were all pitbulls? And the answer was no.

I'd rather they have no damn dogs at all, wtf does that have to do with anything? Again, who is "you guys"? You are stereotyping they dog.

Dogs are very important to humans and rightfully so. There is no need for such a dangerous breed. Not in my community.

In fact my condo association wouldn't allow a pit thank god.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Shall we kill the pitbulls? They're vicious hate machines. I mean, look at this one, he's coming for you right now.

[Oh my god, he's so fucking cute!]

So please explain how you feel about this. Why is it okay for the government to kill the puppies?

why are you asking "liberals"? most of us like animals.

pits can be very lovable. i think people who make them fight should be outlawed.

So can any other breed. Just pick another breed for God sakes.

Pick any fucking breed you want. Just because they scare you doesn't mean you can ban them.

Next you'll be telling us that mandating rabies shots is unconstitutional because most dogs never get rabies.

 

[rightwinger]

No, no, no. You said "Get Rid of Pit Bulls". You want to entirely eliminate the whole breed based on statistics.

So by your same TardLogic[emoji769], we should "Get Rid of Blacks".

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

And that is their argument. Because not all pit bulls are vicious none should be accountable

 

[sealybobo]

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

Bull shit, the animal was trained. Drop the leash and the dog attacks. You can get labs, rots, dob, bulldog, he'll you can get a poodle to do that.

Just because you are afraid of them doesn't mean you get to ban them.

Not him alone but I can see us collectively doing it. Or doing something.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Most dog breeds have been bred for specific purposes. There are breeds for hunting, guarding, herding, protection, and so forth. Look at the register for dog shows.

There's a pro-pit bull cult in this country that has circled the wagons and once inside the circle these people cannot be reasoned with.

I love beagles but if it turned out they were a problem then what's the big deal if we stopped producing them?

$100k if your pitbull bites someone. And make pitbulls a rare expensive breed. $20k for a pure bred pitbull. See who wants one then?

When extremists meet moderates the moderates are usually right.

Of course a great dog owner can raise a good pitbull. Question is, do we require people be great dog owners? Then the typical dirtbag who owns a pitbull usually has nothing for you to sue them for.

That's why dog owners should have to carry insurance.

People should only be allowed to breed once all the pound dogs are rescued.

Define 100% pit-bull. The designation covers several pure breeds as well as cross breed of those. Genetics and generations of selective breeding predispose a dog to certain behavioral characteristics. Bad owners contribute, but dogs are predisposed to be aggressive, or not.

Breeders should be required to take the aggressive power out of those dogs heads and jaws. No one needs that. A doberman would be bad enough. Pits have jaws like alligators or hyenas.

That would take generations. In the meantime, morons would still be breeding dogs whose instincts include killing children and small adults.

Let's be honest. The problem happens mostly in poor neighborhoods. The good responsible dog owners we know that own pits are all dealing with an animal they probably shouldn't own. Now think about all the yahoos who own these dogs. It just shouldn't be an option for the masses. Too dangerous.

I agree! Same thing applies to voting. The same demographic to which this problem applies, voting should not be an option either.

 

[Papageorgio]

No, no, no. You said "Get Rid of Pit Bulls". You want to entirely eliminate the whole breed based on statistics.

So by your same TardLogic[emoji769], we should "Get Rid of Blacks".

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I was walking with my mom around her subdivision and saw a dog owner walking his two dogs. Then I saw about 20 other neighbors with dogs. I'm glad none of them were pitbulls. Then I thought, " would I like it if they were all pitbulls? And the answer was no.

I'd rather they have no damn dogs at all, wtf does that have to do with anything? Again, who is "you guys"? You are stereotyping they dog.

Dogs are very important to humans and rightfully so. There is no need for such a dangerous breed. Not in my community.

In fact my condo association wouldn't allow a pit thank god.

Again, who is " you guys"?

I am sorry you wet yourself when you see a pit bull.

I tire of liberal intolerant bs. I am more concerned about banning drug dealers in condos.

 

[gallantwarrior]

The unfortunate truth is, pitbulls, and dogs of such persuasion, have been specifically bred for certain characteristics for (dog) generations.

So have bulldogs, Dobermans, Alsatians, etc. Then there are those little yappers that pee on your shoes...

All have breed-specific characteristics. Too many people get a dog 'cause they want a dog. Rarely do they research what that breed was selectively bred to do.

 

[Papageorgio]

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

Bull shit, the animal was trained. Drop the leash and the dog attacks. You can get labs, rots, dob, bulldog, he'll you can get a poodle to do that.

Just because you are afraid of them doesn't mean you get to ban them.

Not him alone but I can see us collectively doing it. Or doing something.

I can see it to, crybaby liberals want everything banned. Food, animals, tag, lawn darts and on and on. Liberals need to grow a pair.

All you run on is fear.

 

[sealybobo]

Most dog breeds have been bred for specific purposes. There are breeds for hunting, guarding, herding, protection, and so forth. Look at the register for dog shows.

I love beagles but if it turned out they were a problem then what's the big deal if we stopped producing them?

$100k if your pitbull bites someone. And make pitbulls a rare expensive breed. $20k for a pure bred pitbull. See who wants one then?

When extremists meet moderates the moderates are usually right.

Of course a great dog owner can raise a good pitbull. Question is, do we require people be great dog owners? Then the typical dirtbag who owns a pitbull usually has nothing for you to sue them for.

That's why dog owners should have to carry insurance.

People should only be allowed to breed once all the pound dogs are rescued.

Define 100% pit-bull. The designation covers several pure breeds as well as cross breed of those. Genetics and generations of selective breeding predispose a dog to certain behavioral characteristics. Bad owners contribute, but dogs are predisposed to be aggressive, or not.

Breeders should be required to take the aggressive power out of those dogs heads and jaws. No one needs that. A doberman would be bad enough. Pits have jaws like alligators or hyenas.

That would take generations. In the meantime, morons would still be breeding dogs whose instincts include killing children and small adults.

Let's be honest. The problem happens mostly in poor neighborhoods. The good responsible dog owners we know that own pits are all dealing with an animal they probably shouldn't own. Now think about all the yahoos who own these dogs. It just shouldn't be an option for the masses. Too dangerous.

I agree! Same thing applies to voting. The same demographic to which this problem applies, voting should not be an option either.

I disagree. Anyone who cares enough to show up and vote can't be all that bad. At least they are smart enough to show up. At least they care.

Voting isn't dangerous, unless you vote for bush then you get 9/11ed.

 

[Papageorgio]

Shall we kill the pitbulls? They're vicious hate machines. I mean, look at this one, he's coming for you right now.

[Oh my god, he's so fucking cute!]

So please explain how you feel about this. Why is it okay for the government to kill the puppies?

why are you asking "liberals"? most of us like animals.

pits can be very lovable. i think people who make them fight should be outlawed.

So can any other breed. Just pick another breed for God sakes.

Pick any fucking breed you want. Just because they scare you doesn't mean you can ban them.

Next you'll be telling us that mandating rabies shots is unconstitutional because most dogs never get rabies.

I'm not the one mandating jack shit, you are the one crying and soiling your panties because you are afraid of a dog.

 

[sealybobo]

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

Bull shit, the animal was trained. Drop the leash and the dog attacks. You can get labs, rots, dob, bulldog, he'll you can get a poodle to do that.

Just because you are afraid of them doesn't mean you get to ban them.

Not him alone but I can see us collectively doing it. Or doing something.

I can see it to, crybaby liberals want everything banned. Food, animals, tag, lawn darts and on and on. Liberals need to grow a pair.

All you run on is fear.

Do we really need to supersize everything?

Have we banned whistling at women yet?

I'm sorry America is too ghetto or white trashy to own pits.

Get a nice German Sheppard.

 

[Papageorgio]

We didn't make blacks. We made the pitbull breed. I do see your point but I'm thinking we can educate and sophisticate blacks where pitbulls will always be wild beasts.

If you want to get breeders to make a less aggressive version of the pitbull GREAT! I only want to ban/do away with pitbulls because the pitbulls you guys want to keep around are the aggressive violent ones.

Do you want to fix the violent black problem we have in America? So do I. Do you want to solve the violent pitbull problem we have? So do I. What do you suggest?

Who is "you guys"? I don't want aggressive animals and pit bulls if raised correctly are not aggressive.

I've never heard of a couple Brittany Spaniels doing this:

Bronx pit bull attack leads to arrest - CNN.com

Bad owner.

Wrong. 90% or more of dog breeds under exactly the same conditions would never do that.

And that is their argument. Because not all pit bulls are vicious none should be accountable

Owners need to be held accountable.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Most dog breeds have been bred for specific purposes. There are breeds for hunting, guarding, herding, protection, and so forth. Look at the register for dog shows.
Define 100% pit-bull. The designation covers several pure breeds as well as cross breed of those. Genetics and generations of selective breeding predispose a dog to certain behavioral characteristics. Bad owners contribute, but dogs are predisposed to be aggressive, or not.

Breeders should be required to take the aggressive power out of those dogs heads and jaws. No one needs that. A doberman would be bad enough. Pits have jaws like alligators or hyenas.

That would take generations. In the meantime, morons would still be breeding dogs whose instincts include killing children and small adults.

Let's be honest. The problem happens mostly in poor neighborhoods. The good responsible dog owners we know that own pits are all dealing with an animal they probably shouldn't own. Now think about all the yahoos who own these dogs. It just shouldn't be an option for the masses. Too dangerous.

I agree! Same thing applies to voting. The same demographic to which this problem applies, voting should not be an option either.

I disagree. Anyone who cares enough to show up and vote can't be all that bad. At least they are smart enough to show up. At least they care.

Voting isn't dangerous, unless you vote for bush then you get 9/11ed.

I'm not so sure. If someone cares so little that he/she keeps and grooms a dog of a breed known for its viciousness and propensity to attack/injure/kill others, I'm not convinced they have enough interest in the well being of society and their community to be allowed to push known pimps and hucksters into a public government office.
Voting does have consequences.

 

[rightwinger]

The unfortunate truth is, pitbulls, and dogs of such persuasion, have been specifically bred for certain characteristics for (dog) generations.

So have bulldogs, Dobermans, Alsatians, etc. Then there are those little yappers that pee on your shoes...

All have breed-specific characteristics. Too many people get a dog 'cause they want a dog. Rarely do they research what that breed was selectively bred to do.

They buy pit bulls because they want to look like a badass

 

[sealybobo]

Shall we kill the pitbulls? They're vicious hate machines. I mean, look at this one, he's coming for you right now.

[Oh my god, he's so fucking cute!]

So please explain how you feel about this. Why is it okay for the government to kill the puppies?

why are you asking "liberals"? most of us like animals.

pits can be very lovable. i think people who make them fight should be outlawed.

So can any other breed. Just pick another breed for God sakes.

Pick any fucking breed you want. Just because they scare you doesn't mean you can ban them.

Next you'll be telling us that mandating rabies shots is unconstitutional because most dogs never get rabies.

I'm not the one mandating jack shit, you are the one crying and soiling your panties because you are afraid of a dog.

I once saw my beagle climb a fence. And did you hear about the tiger who leaped out of its zoo enclosure and killed a guy who was taunting it? I don't even want to see a pitbull behind a fence. If he wanted to bad enough he could get out.