Michelle Claims Fat Kids Are A National Security Threat

[ConHog]

Michelle Claims Fat Kids Are A National Security Threat

She has room to talk?
I saw her hips on HGTV's White House Christmas special, last night

Michelle Obama is in NOWAY fat, get over it.

 

[SwordofDamocles]

Michelle Claims Fat Kids Are A National Security Threat

She has room to talk?
I saw her hips on HGTV's White House Christmas special, last night

Michelle Obama is in NOWAY fat, get over it.

Big Mo's ass is wider than the back end of a bus. Heck, her ass is bigger than Hillary'
s. I didn't think that was possible.

 

[R.C. Christian]

What Michelle is trying to impress upon you is that the future fodder for America's unending wars are a detriment to the pentagram's war machine. The Joint chiefs among others have steadfastly maintained that fat children hinder their efforts to maintain a lean army of fresh meat to be thrown into the meat grinder at any given moment. So if you don't want get drafted or forced into Rahm and Obam's ridiculous socialist national service conspiracy adventure, then I suggest eating like a pig. Beats burning draft papers and tastes better too!

 

[chanel]

NJ has one of the strictest nutritional guidelines for school lunches. I cannot find any data that shows whether it has had an effect on obesity rates. Maybe it has; maybe it hasn't. But pilot programs should be evaluated before instituting ANY nationl program. Is that unreasonable?

 

[Ravi]

Didn't JFK insist that school children exercise and wasn't he applauded for it?

Rightwingloons.

Yes. He created the President's All American Fitness program.
Here's the difference. There was no new law. No mandate from a busy body government. JFK issued a challenge to all kids. I remember participating in phys ed class. We took these physical agility and endurance competitions. It was great trying out do your classmates and then getting your name in the paper and being honored by your school.
However, political correctness and helicopter parenting put a stop to the fun. These parents wrung their hands about THEIR kid's brittle "self esteem" over the fact that some kids could not compete. So the government dumbed down the whole thing and people lost interest.
When I was a kid it was all about competition. Boys were boys...Males. Fathers and sons. Brothers and brothers.
There was no "well you tried real hard". No tee ball, no bumper bowling, no coach pitch, no parents running onto the field wailing about how their little cupcake got knocked on his ass..
No wonder why kids are fat assed lazy little entitled bastards. They sit inside and play video games, stuff their nasty little pie holes while their parents praise them for being able to wipe their own asses.
Is all that a problem? Sure is. Should the federal government get involved and pass nanny state laws to stop it( it wouldn't) NO WAY!!!
That's the difference between the Left and the people who live in the real world and want government to leave them the hell alone. The Left wants government involved in anything and everything.

Ike signed an executive order, created a government organization and gave the a budget. Kennedy went further:

In it, Kennedy established four points as the basis of his program, including a "White House Committee on Health and Fitness"; direct oversight by the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare; an annual Youth Fitness Congress to be attended by state governors; and the assertion that fitness—physical fitness—was very much the business of the federal government.

The Federal Government Takes on Physical Fitness - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

Fuck off with your partisan revisionism and your hatred of Michelle. Who is, by the way, not a fat pig as you wing nuts call her.

 

[Ravi]

Look at the picture you used. Look at most of those women. I cannot believe they stood there and remained silent. Or have they been obamaized?

LOL...I think the larger point is find the fat gorilla on the stage.

Fuck you, bitch.

He prefers his women to look like metrosexual men. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[Ravi]

NJ has one of the strictest nutritional guidelines for school lunches. I cannot find any data that shows whether it has had an effect on obesity rates. Maybe it has; maybe it hasn't. But pilot programs should be evaluated before instituting ANY nationl program. Is that unreasonable?

You're right...public schools should serve Big Macs and Coke for lunch.

 

[California Girl]

wow... how much of a loser do you have to be to mind educating kids about healthy eating?

I guess the trolls like their kids and wives obese and making them the Hamburger Helper every night for dinner, because they can't see that a healthy lifestyle is best for everyone in the long run.

its' also the pure hackery of objecting because it came from michelle obama. as was pointed out, it's a pretty good guess that they never complained when laura encouraged kids to read.

but they're a buncha nutbars... so it's not like you can expect anything better.

Michelle didn't actually say it. She was repeating comments originating from the US Military. And they are right... obesity is hugely damaging to the country. And, for the record, I'm glad Michelle has drawn attention to it.

A couple of months ago, the British "TV" chef, Jamie Oliver, did a series where he went to the unhealthiest town in America and tried to change the school menus to more healthy options. The opposition he met was horrifying to watch. The kind of crap we feed kids in schools is nothing short of sinful. Personally, I think we're killing our own children by tolerating such junk food to be served in schools.

 

[California Girl]

NJ has one of the strictest nutritional guidelines for school lunches. I cannot find any data that shows whether it has had an effect on obesity rates. Maybe it has; maybe it hasn't. But pilot programs should be evaluated before instituting ANY nationl program. Is that unreasonable?

Firstly, we need to know whether those guidelines are actually the right guidelines. Secondly, yea, we should evaluate before we roll out any national program. But.... we cannot expect schools alone to solve the issue... Parents need to take responsibility for what their kids eat.

 

[chanel]

Of course CG. But schools are supposed to solve ALL society's problems. Didn't you know that? From feeding to dressing to drugs to sex to cyberbullying, etc. And then we wonder why Johnny can't read.

Arne Duncan would like to see schools open 7 days a week; 52 weeks a year. We will soon be seeing "community health centers" in many large schools where dinner will be offered. How about some cots too?

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might suggest that the government wants our kids for something. Dependency?

 

[California Girl]

Of course CG. But schools are supposed to solve ALL society's problems. Didn't you know that? From feeding to dressing to drugs to sex to cyberbullying, etc. And then we wonder why Johnny can't read.

Arne Duncan would like to see schools open 7 days a week; 52 weeks a year. We will soon be seeing "community health centers" in many large schools where dinner will be offered. How about some cots too?

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might suggest that the government wants our kids for something. Dependency?

Some time ago, I started a thread about how we could address the issue of children having children and outlined a theory about how we could solve that issue. The same methodology applies here. What we need to do is address the issue with both the children and their parents. It should not be another burden on schools, it should be a societal solution to a societal problem.

 

[mudwhistle]

Bad parenting is NOT subjective. You're either a good parent, or you're a bad parent. Having a 12 y/o who weighs 200 lbs is NOT being a good parent, and that is not up for discussion.

You wouldn't claim that spousal abuse is a matter of opinion, would you?

Correct. Bad parenting is just that. However I am not discussing that.
The issue is, the other poster's use of that description. He claimed that certain behaviors are in his opinion ,bad parenting. Again, HIS opinion. And again, use of a subjective judgement to further a political agenda. That agenda is nanny state regulations affecting and interfering with parenting.
I am aware of what is clearly negligence on the part of parents. However, there is a fine line that separates advice and intrusion. A recommendation by a government entity is fine. A law or mandate by government to regulate behavior in the home in the process of child rearing is intrusion.

SOME people believe that beating, not spanking, but BEATING your children is acceptable parenting. Are you saying the government has no right to tell parents that they may not beat their children? What about curfews for children? Some parents believe that children should be allowed to run wild at all hours of the day and night. Does the government not have a right to say "no you can not let your children run free"?

Also, let's get something straight. The First Lady speaking her opinions on the subject absolutely does not equal new government policies being implemented. She is not a branch of the government.

Unfortunately these folks do everything with a purpose. They're constantly greasing the skids for future legislation and new regulations that are soon to follow. She's not saying this stuff just on a whim. This has been planned out in great detail. They offer proposals to see how it resonates. Sometimes it's to plant a seed. It's called an Availability Cascade.

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

This idea that fat kids are a National Security threat is a prime example of an availability cascade.

 

[California Girl]

Correct. Bad parenting is just that. However I am not discussing that.
The issue is, the other poster's use of that description. He claimed that certain behaviors are in his opinion ,bad parenting. Again, HIS opinion. And again, use of a subjective judgement to further a political agenda. That agenda is nanny state regulations affecting and interfering with parenting.
I am aware of what is clearly negligence on the part of parents. However, there is a fine line that separates advice and intrusion. A recommendation by a government entity is fine. A law or mandate by government to regulate behavior in the home in the process of child rearing is intrusion.

SOME people believe that beating, not spanking, but BEATING your children is acceptable parenting. Are you saying the government has no right to tell parents that they may not beat their children? What about curfews for children? Some parents believe that children should be allowed to run wild at all hours of the day and night. Does the government not have a right to say "no you can not let your children run free"?

Also, let's get something straight. The First Lady speaking her opinions on the subject absolutely does not equal new government policies being implemented. She is not a branch of the government.

Unfortunately these folks do everything with a purpose. They're constantly greasing the skids for future legislation and new regulations that are soon to follow. She's not saying this stuff just on a whim. This has been planned out in great detail. They offer proposals to see how it resonates. Sometimes it's to plant a seed. It's called an Availability Cascade.

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

This idea that fat kids are a National Security threat is a prime example of an availability cascade.

But... your thread title blames Michelle Obama for the comment. It was not Michelle. It was the US Military.

 

[Article 15]

Michelle is losing her mind.

Now she's saying that because only 1 in 4 kids in the US can qualify for the military this has become a threat to National Security.

“Military leaders … tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight,” the first lady says in the prepared remarks, “childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well."

Now I've heard everything.

Call it one of those unintended consequences of the Nanny State.

Kids aren't allowed to run around and play like they did when I was growing up so now we've got kids that are getting by on Monster drinks just to keep from being bored to death.

After sitting around the house for hours on end in the summer kids get fat. Many parents won't allow them out on their own. School buses have to drop kids off mere feet from their doorstep. It's all just a side-effect of the Nanny State this country has immersed itself in.

I've felt for quite some time that all of this coddling that goes on is only going to make kids unable to cope with life but military life is out of the question folks. Our pampered kids won't be able to handle the culture-shock they will experience. It doesn't matter if they're out of shape or not.

LINK

You been eatin' retard sandwiches for lunch again or what?

 

[mudwhistle]

SOME people believe that beating, not spanking, but BEATING your children is acceptable parenting. Are you saying the government has no right to tell parents that they may not beat their children? What about curfews for children? Some parents believe that children should be allowed to run wild at all hours of the day and night. Does the government not have a right to say "no you can not let your children run free"?

Also, let's get something straight. The First Lady speaking her opinions on the subject absolutely does not equal new government policies being implemented. She is not a branch of the government.

Unfortunately these folks do everything with a purpose. They're constantly greasing the skids for future legislation and new regulations that are soon to follow. She's not saying this stuff just on a whim. This has been planned out in great detail. They offer proposals to see how it resonates. Sometimes it's to plant a seed. It's called an Availability Cascade.

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

This idea that fat kids are a National Security threat is a prime example of an availability cascade.

But... your thread title blames Michelle Obama for the comment. It was not Michelle. It was the US Military.

So you claim she doesn't support her own statement?

“Military leaders … tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight,” the first lady says in the prepared remarks, “childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well."

So you claim she's just repeating what the military told her. That's the context you want to give it?

I see it differently. If she didn't think it was true she should say so. But not only does she agree but she seemed to embellish it turning it into an emergency rather then simply a health matter.

 

[California Girl]

Unfortunately these folks do everything with a purpose. They're constantly greasing the skids for future legislation and new regulations that are soon to follow. She's not saying this stuff just on a whim. This has been planned out in great detail. They offer proposals to see how it resonates. Sometimes it's to plant a seed. It's called an Availability Cascade.



This idea that fat kids are a National Security threat is a prime example of an availability cascade.

But... your thread title blames Michelle Obama for the comment. It was not Michelle. It was the US Military.

So you claim she doesn't support her own statement?

“Military leaders … tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight,” the first lady says in the prepared remarks, “childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well."

So you claim she's just repeating what the military told her. That's the context you want to give it?

I see it differently. If she didn't think it was true she should say so. But not only does she agree but she seemed to embellish it turning it into an emergency rather then simply a health matter.

I didn't claim that at all. I said that the statement originated from the US Military. That's a fact, not a claim. Michelle was backing the concerns of the Military. You can see it any way you want but the fact is that the concern was originally raised by the Military and Michelle is taking it up. I see no problem with that.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The problem is primarily conservative fat asses who think they have no responsiblity to their country at all. They can get as fat and sloppy as they want..and if the ticker goes..welp..that's when the government comes in and picks up the check.

Obesity is a very real and acute problem in this country. I look at our nations kids and wonder what the fuck anyone is thinking feeding them high fat and high sugar crapola while getting them excused from Gym. In my day..you were required to pass a gym physical. That should be brought back.

So 3 out of 4 kids in this country are from conservative families? Why is there still a democratic party?

 

[mudwhistle]

But... your thread title blames Michelle Obama for the comment. It was not Michelle. It was the US Military.

So you claim she doesn't support her own statement?

“Military leaders … tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight,” the first lady says in the prepared remarks, “childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well."

So you claim she's just repeating what the military told her. That's the context you want to give it?

I see it differently. If she didn't think it was true she should say so. But not only does she agree but she seemed to embellish it turning it into an emergency rather then simply a health matter.

I didn't claim that at all. I said that the statement originated from the US Military. That's a fact, not a claim. Michelle was backing the concerns of the Military. You can see it any way you want but the fact is that the concern was originally raised by the Military and Michelle is taking it up. I see no problem with that.

You cannot say that just from her statement. There is nothing in it that says the claim originates from the military. It merely says that the military claims kids are too fat these days. I know somebody that's trying to get into the service but has to lose over 100 lbs. to qualify. The military gives them a training and diet program to follow and it's up to them to make the grade.

This White House likes going around the Pay As You Go rule passed a few years ago, and the way they do it is by blowing everything up into a crisis. "Never let a crisis go wasted" they've said. Well in this case they're trying to invent one.

They bitched about Bush's claims of Iraq's WMDs yet they come up with one WMD after another. Folks are getting tired of it. This is a health concern....not a matter of national security.

 

[editec]

I can tell you that kids are fatter than they were when I was a kid.

It's disgusting to see so many kids carrying to many extra pounds.

Now imagine what it looks like to those people in other places in the world where food is a serious problem.

Is it any wonder at all why so many people resent the West?

Their kids are starving, ours are developing diabetes becuase we feed them so much junk food.

 

[mudwhistle]

Michelle is losing her mind.

Now she's saying that because only 1 in 4 kids in the US can qualify for the military this has become a threat to National Security.

“Military leaders … tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight,” the first lady says in the prepared remarks, “childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well."

Now I've heard everything.

Call it one of those unintended consequences of the Nanny State.

Kids aren't allowed to run around and play like they did when I was growing up so now we've got kids that are getting by on Monster drinks just to keep from being bored to death.

After sitting around the house for hours on end in the summer kids get fat. Many parents won't allow them out on their own. School buses have to drop kids off mere feet from their doorstep. It's all just a side-effect of the Nanny State this country has immersed itself in.

I've felt for quite some time that all of this coddling that goes on is only going to make kids unable to cope with life but military life is out of the question folks. Our pampered kids won't be able to handle the culture-shock they will experience. It doesn't matter if they're out of shape or not.

LINK

You been eatin' retard sandwiches for lunch again or what?

No but I think Michelle thinks we have.

Better then the shit-sandwiches you've been eating.