The black view on the 2020 presidential election

We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

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I find it amazing that the psychotic lying trumpkins don’t get it.
 
There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

Of course, the U.S. was created for Whites - along with some ill-colored folks with the status akin to cattle.

99.5% of current-day Americans have learned better and evolved since the 18th century boneheadedness. Rockwell hopes for you to drag him into the 21st century. That's why he shows up on your thread. He'll be kicking and screaming, though. You up for it?

I'm not joining up with IM2's version of a socialist ONE WORLD / ONE RELIGION / ONE RACE utopia. I'm satisfied with my culture; I respect those who disagree; I will resist any multicultural society as it is the antithesis upon which our Republic rests. No nation can represent everyone equally. Every people need their space.
 
What rights?

You have the Right to remain silent, take IM2's B.S. and even get ostracized and castigated if you retaliate in like kind. If you disagree, you have the Right to be called a white supremacist.


Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

It has nothing with what I believe. What I'm telling you is verifiable history. And you have a problem with that.

Thomas Jefferson wrote about all men being created equal, but he owned slaves and called the Indians savages in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson screws at least one slave, Sally Hemmings, and don't have the decency to acknowledge his children during his lifetime.

America was founded as a constitutional Republic for the advancement, preservation and protection of the white race. I've cited you examples, laws, and sources of all manner of history to show that what I said is true.

And what you proved was that America was founded on a belief in white supremacy. It's something blacks already know.
The whole world was based on white supremacy at the time, dumbass.

So what? That's history.
 
We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

3336396_0.jpg
I find it amazing that the psychotic lying trumpkins don’t get it.

That's ironic. I am IM2's worst nightmare and I have spent more time working with black people than I have spent with my own family. I voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils and have said things about Trump that are far worse than IM2 has. So, you don't have to be a lying Trumpkin to disagree with an absolute dumbass like IM2.

You're the first IM2 supporter I've ever ran across. You guys are delusional if you think you cornered the market on hard times and a hard life.
 
Not going to happen. Your party offers nothing that addresses the issues we face. The current GOP is not about human to human. It is about white rights.
What rights?

You have the Right to remain silent, take IM2's B.S. and even get ostracized and castigated if you retaliate in like kind. If you disagree, you have the Right to be called a white supremacist.


Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

It has nothing with what I believe. What I'm telling you is verifiable history. And you have a problem with that.

Thomas Jefferson wrote about all men being created equal, but he owned slaves and called the Indians savages in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson screws at least one slave, Sally Hemmings, and don't have the decency to acknowledge his children during his lifetime.

America was founded as a constitutional Republic for the advancement, preservation and protection of the white race. I've cited you examples, laws, and sources of all manner of history to show that what I said is true.

It wouldn't be the first time that a nation was founded for that reason. Apparently however our good friend had chosen to nullify 250 years worth of history and learning in favor of holding onto the distant past which IMO probably had nothing to do with him.

Jo
 
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No it is not. Why is the 14th the only one not legally ratified? How many other amendments were not legally ratified?
I have heard arguments that the 16th was not legally ratified because it was done as a bait and switch on the language, and other reasons.

You make it sound like the only reason anyone would question whether the U.S. followed proper procedure in ratifying the 14th is because he is racist. That's flawed reasoning.

Please stop being white trying to tell me about how things are affecting blacks. There are things we can see through relative to racism that you cannot. Not because you are a racist or ignorant, but because you have never had to understand them to survive.
This is also flawed reasoning. You're telling me that I cannot see and empathize on how things affect others because I am not them? You're telling me that I cannot understand certain plights of others because I am not them?

I can tell you from observation that neither of the two main parties gives a rat fuck about black folks. One ignores black folks because they can't make any headway in their pandering and choose to put their efforts elsewhere. The other ignores black folks because they know that black folks will vote for them 95% of the time, regardless of how many times they FAIL to actually help black folks.

No black person should ever vote R or D again.
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What rights?

You have the Right to remain silent, take IM2's B.S. and even get ostracized and castigated if you retaliate in like kind. If you disagree, you have the Right to be called a white supremacist.


Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

I'm a white supremacist because I don't lie to the guy. If it makes him feel happy, I can live with it. He has a hard time living with himself.

You're a white supremacist because you believe in the primacy of whites above all others.

You're as dumb as a box of rocks. I see the white race as a servant race. We've fought in more wars for the Liberties of people just like you than any other race on this planet. We've sent more missionaries out into God forsaken countries and helped them build communities, conquer diseases, and learn to live off the land than all other countries combined.

America was founded as a white country. Our Anglo Saxon system of jurisprudence, the Christian faith our forefathers brought with them, and the values specific to our racial history are all a testament to the founding of this country.

You are wrong. Whites have fought wars to colonize more non white countries than any other race, What you fought to do was deny non whites the independence they sought due to your colonization. You cannot give yourselves credit for fighting wars to fix problems you created or to give liberty that you took. You are delusional. You sent missionaries into countries that already knew who god was.

"Missionaries came with the attitude that all things European were superior to all things African. Most missionaries like David Livingstone and Fabri of the German Missionary Society in Namibia believed that once Africans were colonized by European countries they would be more likely to seek after Western Education and Christianity which the missionaries controlled. It was their mission to do anything necessary to convert Africans who were viewed as uncivilized and barbaric. Missionaries often failed to distinguish between Christian principles and those of the colonialists. They misused biblical passages to further the causes of their colonial friends."

https://www.globalblackhistory.com/2012/10/role-of-missionaries-in-colonization-of-africans.html

America was founded by the exclusion of blacks who were here and of 500 nations of indigenous people who were here. That cannot be ignored no matter how much you try doing so. Whites were not here by themselves and in fact, if not for the indigenous nations whites would have died off after eating each other.

“The starving time” was the winter of 1609-1610, when food shortages, fractured leadership, and a siege by Powhatan Indian warriors killed two of every three colonists at James Fort. From its beginning, the colony struggled to maintaining a food supply. Trade relations with the Virginia Indian tribes were strained because a severe seven-year drought stressed food supplies for everyone in the region. Captain John Smith had some success trading European goods for corn in the first two years of the settlement, but his strongarm tactics also angered the tribal communities.

Aware of the food shortages, the Virginia Company sent a fleet of nine ships in July 1609 with new colonists and enough supplies to last through the winter. But the fleet was scattered and damaged by a hurricane. The largest ship, the Sea Venture, was shipwrecked on the Island of Bermuda with much of the supplies and leaders such as Captain Christopher Newport, Sir George Somers, and Sir Thomas Gates. In mid-August some of the ships arrived at Jamestown with 300 colonists and few supplies.

Smith was badly injured by a mysterious gunpowder explosion and forced to return to England in October. George Percy became President of the Council and faced the lethal combination of dwindling food supplies and an order by Chief Powhatan that his warriors should attack any colonists or livestock found outside the fort. Percy later wrote that “Indians killed as fast without [the fort] as Famine and Pestilence did within.” Percy calculated that meager rations of half a can of meal a day would get them only halfway through the winter. He wrote that to satisfy their “Crewell hunger,” some went into the woods looking for “Serpents and snakes, and to digge the earthe for wylde and unknowne Rootes,” but those people “weare Cutt off and slayne by the Salvages.

Starvation weakened the colonists and led to sicknesses such as dysentery and typhoid. The colonists ate shoe leather and butchered seven horses brought from England the summer before on the ill-fated fleet. Percy wrote, “Then, having fed upon horses and other beasts as long as they lasted, we were glad to make shift with vermin, as dogs, cats and mice.” There were charges of cannibalism: Starving settlers dug up “dead corpses outt of graves” to eat them, and others “Licked upp the Bloode which ha[d] fallen from their weake fellowes.”Jamestown Rediscovery archaeologists in 2012 uncovered the first forensic evidence of survival cannibalism in a European colony in North America.


https://historicjamestowne.org/history/history-of-jamestown/the-starving-time/

The only reason this nation was founded on Anglo Saxon anything was that the white men at the constitutional convention refused to invite blacks and representatives from indigenous nations. You post a fake version of history and half truths are lies, not facts.
 
What rights?

You have the Right to remain silent, take IM2's B.S. and even get ostracized and castigated if you retaliate in like kind. If you disagree, you have the Right to be called a white supremacist.


Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

It has nothing with what I believe. What I'm telling you is verifiable history. And you have a problem with that.

Thomas Jefferson wrote about all men being created equal, but he owned slaves and called the Indians savages in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson screws at least one slave, Sally Hemmings, and don't have the decency to acknowledge his children during his lifetime.

America was founded as a constitutional Republic for the advancement, preservation and protection of the white race. I've cited you examples, laws, and sources of all manner of history to show that what I said is true.

It wouldn't be the first time that a nation was founded for that reason. Apparently however our good friend had chosen to nullify 250 years worth of history and learning in favor of holding onto the distant past which IMO
probably had nothing to do when him.

Jo

Wrong.
 
No it is not. Why is the 14th the only one not legally ratified? How many other amendments were not legally ratified?
I have heard arguments that the 16th was not legally ratified because it was done as a bait and switch on the language, and other reasons.

You make it sound like the only reason anyone would question whether the U.S. followed proper procedure in ratifying the 14th is because he is racist. That's flawed reasoning.

Please stop being white trying to tell me about how things are affecting blacks. There are things we can see through relative to racism that you cannot. Not because you are a racist or ignorant, but because you have never had to understand them to survive.
This is also flawed reasoning. You're telling me that I cannot see and empathize on how things affect others because I am not them? You're telling me that I cannot understand certain plights of others because I am not them?

I can tell you from observation that neither of the two main parties gives a rat fuck about black folks. One ignores black folks because they can't make any headway in their pandering and choose to put their efforts elsewhere. The other ignores black folks because they know that black folks will vote for them 95% of the time, regardless of how many times they FAIL to actually help black folks.

No black person should ever vote R or D again.
:dunno:

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No it's not flawed reasoning. Whites do not challenge the 3/5ths compromise. Whites like Rockwell will accept Justice Taneys opinion is valid law. But we don't see other amendments being challenged here but those that give citizenship top anyone not white. So then to consider racism as part of the reason why is not flawed.

I can tell you that its time whites stopped telling us what party is what and learn that neither party gives a fuck about poor ass or middle class whites, instead of sucking up the racism and repeating it.
 
We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

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I find it amazing that the psychotic lying trumpkins don’t get it.

They get it. They think blacks are dumb and that we will be fooled into becoming republicans if they just keep on gaslighting.
 
There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

Of course, the U.S. was created for Whites - along with some ill-colored folks with the status akin to cattle.

99.5% of current-day Americans have learned better and evolved since the 18th century boneheadedness. Rockwell hopes for you to drag him into the 21st century. That's why he shows up on your thread. He'll be kicking and screaming, though. You up for it?
Yep.
 
You have the Right to remain silent, take IM2's B.S. and even get ostracized and castigated if you retaliate in like kind. If you disagree, you have the Right to be called a white supremacist.


Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

It has nothing with what I believe. What I'm telling you is verifiable history. And you have a problem with that.

Thomas Jefferson wrote about all men being created equal, but he owned slaves and called the Indians savages in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson screws at least one slave, Sally Hemmings, and don't have the decency to acknowledge his children during his lifetime.

America was founded as a constitutional Republic for the advancement, preservation and protection of the white race. I've cited you examples, laws, and sources of all manner of history to show that what I said is true.

And what you proved was that America was founded on a belief in white supremacy. It's something blacks already know.

If you knew it, what was your reason for denying it?

So you are saying America was built upon white supremacy.
 
There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

Of course, the U.S. was created for Whites - along with some ill-colored folks with the status akin to cattle.

99.5% of current-day Americans have learned better and evolved since the 18th century boneheadedness. Rockwell hopes for you to drag him into the 21st century. That's why he shows up on your thread. He'll be kicking and screaming, though. You up for it?

I'm not joining up with IM2's version of a socialist ONE WORLD / ONE RELIGION / ONE RACE utopia. I'm satisfied with my culture; I respect those who disagree; I will resist any multicultural society as it is the antithesis upon which our Republic rests. No nation can represent everyone equally. Every people need their space.
This was a multicultural society when it was "founded." What you represent is the antithesis of what this country was meant to be. The law is suppose to apply to all equally.
 
We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

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I find it amazing that the psychotic lying trumpkins don’t get it.

That's ironic. I am IM2's worst nightmare and I have spent more time working with black people than I have spent with my own family. I voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils and have said things about Trump that are far worse than IM2 has. So, you don't have to be a lying Trumpkin to disagree with an absolute dumbass like IM2.

You're the first IM2 supporter I've ever ran across. You guys are delusional if you think you cornered the market on hard times and a hard life.

You've never faced racism or sexism son. White men have had it easier than everybody else. You are a joke that I will decimate.
 
You have the Right to remain silent, take IM2's B.S. and even get ostracized and castigated if you retaliate in like kind. If you disagree, you have the Right to be called a white supremacist.


Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

I'm a white supremacist because I don't lie to the guy. If it makes him feel happy, I can live with it. He has a hard time living with himself.

You're a white supremacist because you believe in the primacy of whites above all others.

You're as dumb as a box of rocks. I see the white race as a servant race. We've fought in more wars for the Liberties of people just like you than any other race on this planet. We've sent more missionaries out into God forsaken countries and helped them build communities, conquer diseases, and learn to live off the land than all other countries combined.

America was founded as a white country. Our Anglo Saxon system of jurisprudence, the Christian faith our forefathers brought with them, and the values specific to our racial history are all a testament to the founding of this country.

You are wrong. Whites have fought wars to colonize more non white countries than any other race, What you fought to do was deny non whites the independence they sought due to your colonization. You cannot give yourselves credit for fighting wars to fix problems you created or to give liberty that you took. You are delusional. You sent missionaries into countries that already knew who god was.

"Missionaries came with the attitude that all things European were superior to all things African. Most missionaries like David Livingstone and Fabri of the German Missionary Society in Namibia believed that once Africans were colonized by European countries they would be more likely to seek after Western Education and Christianity which the missionaries controlled. It was their mission to do anything necessary to convert Africans who were viewed as uncivilized and barbaric. Missionaries often failed to distinguish between Christian principles and those of the colonialists. They misused biblical passages to further the causes of their colonial friends."

Role of Missionaries in Colonization of Africans - Global Black History

America was founded by the exclusion of blacks who were here and of 500 nations of indigenous people who were here. That cannot be ignored no matter how much you try doing so. Whites were not here by themselves and in fact, if not for the indigenous nations whites would have died off after eating each other.

“The starving time” was the winter of 1609-1610, when food shortages, fractured leadership, and a siege by Powhatan Indian warriors killed two of every three colonists at James Fort. From its beginning, the colony struggled to maintaining a food supply. Trade relations with the Virginia Indian tribes were strained because a severe seven-year drought stressed food supplies for everyone in the region. Captain John Smith had some success trading European goods for corn in the first two years of the settlement, but his strongarm tactics also angered the tribal communities.

Aware of the food shortages, the Virginia Company sent a fleet of nine ships in July 1609 with new colonists and enough supplies to last through the winter. But the fleet was scattered and damaged by a hurricane. The largest ship, the Sea Venture, was shipwrecked on the Island of Bermuda with much of the supplies and leaders such as Captain Christopher Newport, Sir George Somers, and Sir Thomas Gates. In mid-August some of the ships arrived at Jamestown with 300 colonists and few supplies.

Smith was badly injured by a mysterious gunpowder explosion and forced to return to England in October. George Percy became President of the Council and faced the lethal combination of dwindling food supplies and an order by Chief Powhatan that his warriors should attack any colonists or livestock found outside the fort. Percy later wrote that “Indians killed as fast without [the fort] as Famine and Pestilence did within.” Percy calculated that meager rations of half a can of meal a day would get them only halfway through the winter. He wrote that to satisfy their “Crewell hunger,” some went into the woods looking for “Serpents and snakes, and to digge the earthe for wylde and unknowne Rootes,” but those people “weare Cutt off and slayne by the Salvages.

Starvation weakened the colonists and led to sicknesses such as dysentery and typhoid. The colonists ate shoe leather and butchered seven horses brought from England the summer before on the ill-fated fleet. Percy wrote, “Then, having fed upon horses and other beasts as long as they lasted, we were glad to make shift with vermin, as dogs, cats and mice.” There were charges of cannibalism: Starving settlers dug up “dead corpses outt of graves” to eat them, and others “Licked upp the Bloode which ha[d] fallen from their weake fellowes.”Jamestown Rediscovery archaeologists in 2012 uncovered the first forensic evidence of survival cannibalism in a European colony in North America.


https://historicjamestowne.org/history/history-of-jamestown/the-starving-time/

The only reason this nation was founded on Anglo Saxon anything was that the white men at the constitutional convention refused to invite blacks and representatives from indigenous nations. You post a fake version of history and half truths are lies, not facts.

Your history sucks...

Assyria holds the number one spot for enslavement in all of recorded history and the Assyrians were NOT WHITE.....

Go back to school

Jo
 
Are there honest people who aren't white supremacists?
If so what evidence are they basing their feelings on?

There are honest people who do not believe that America was made only for whites. That is what rockwell believes. There are honest people who believe that the 14th amendment is legal, whereas rockwell claims it was illegally ratified and that all who are not white are illegal citizens of this country. This is why he is called a white supremacist.

It has nothing with what I believe. What I'm telling you is verifiable history. And you have a problem with that.

Thomas Jefferson wrote about all men being created equal, but he owned slaves and called the Indians savages in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson screws at least one slave, Sally Hemmings, and don't have the decency to acknowledge his children during his lifetime.

America was founded as a constitutional Republic for the advancement, preservation and protection of the white race. I've cited you examples, laws, and sources of all manner of history to show that what I said is true.

And what you proved was that America was founded on a belief in white supremacy. It's something blacks already know.

If you knew it, what was your reason for denying it?

So you are saying America was built upon white supremacy.


and the planet
 
Is the fate of the Trumpublican party to endlessly post false memes on Social Media. Lincolns quotes can be sourced to the debates where he was campaigning to a very white and very racist electorate, whereas those are phony LBJ quotes. Mind you he was a crass bastard and nearly everybody used the near censored word.
So it's your attempt to dodge history by claiming it's fake?


No. Lincoln said those words, and words like them during all the public debates he had with Douglas .

The Lincoln-Douglas Debates of 1858 - Lincoln Home National Historic Site (U.S. National Park Service)

Care to back up those phony LBJ quotes?
Yes Lincoln said those words but he also freed blacks.

He was still a racist in that he believed that White people were inherently superior. Don't take it so hard, nearly everybody was back in those days. Had to be. Half the country owned slaves, so to protect the national conscience we had to convince ourselves that their inferiority was mostly to blame for their status as slaves. He was an abolitionist, which was pretty liberal at the time.

Respectfully, I don't recall ever reading anything that historically validates Lincoln being an abolitionist.
A true abolitionist would have believed in the immediate end to the practice of slavery in ALL states.

Lincoln's first priority was to preserve the union. Slaves in select states were freed by default in his accomplishing that objective.

https://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation
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I stand corrected.
 
I can guarantee you you're not see another black president because the Democratic party won't allow it
This is not about what the democratic party won't allow, it is about what the republican party has never allowed.
Republicans have been protecting blacks civil rights since 1866


No they haven't.

U.S. v. Cruikshank

March 27, 1876
The Cruikshank case arose from the 1873 Colfax Massacre, in which a group of armed whites killed more than a hundred African American men as a result of a political dispute. Three men convicted of violating the 1870 Enforcement Act – a law aimed primarily at curbing Ku Klux Klan violence that forbade conspiracies to deny the constitutional rights of any citizen – appealed on the grounds that their indictments were insufficient. When the case reached the Supreme Court, the Court sided with the defendants, holding that the rights they were alleged to have violated were not enforceable in this case. The First and Second Amendment rights to assembly and the bearing of arms were, according to the Court’s ruling, intended only to restrict the actions of the federal government and did not apply to the states or private citizens, and the Fourteenth Amendment rights to due process and equal protection applied only to state action and again, not to the actions of individuals.

https://www.fjc.gov/history/timeline/us-v-cruikshank

Once again Chief Justice Waite, a REPUBLICAN:

Chief Justice Morrison Waite overturned the convictions of the defendants, holding that the plaintiffs had to rely on state courts for protection. Waite ruled that neither the First Amendment nor the Second Amendment applied to the actions of state governments or to individuals. He further ruled that the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applied to the actions of state governments, but not to individuals. The decision left African Americans in the South at the mercy of increasingly hostile state governments dominated by white Democratic legislatures, and allowed groups such as the Ku Klux Klan to continue to use paramilitary force to suppress black voting.

Republicans were complicit in the oppression of blacks. And blacks voted strictly republican for almost 100 years while republicans didn't do a damn thing for black people. So democrats started to and blacks started leaving the republican party. Now I am not going to argue this with white republicans when I am black and was told by older blacks starting when I was a child during the 60's about why blacks left the mother fucking republican party. Republicans did the same thing then they are doing now, telling blacks how we should be republicans because republicans freed the slaves. That no matter how republicans treat us, we are to be forever grateful to dead men and women that you guys claim aren't here anymore for doing something to stop a problem you guys claim you are not responsible for today. So if you weren't alive during slavery, if you did not own slaves, if you should not be held to account for the sins of your great great grandparents, stop taking credit for what your great great grandparents did.
Dumbass you just showed the history of the democrat party and inserted your own biased opinion of the Republican party.

Nope. I showed some of the history of the republican party after slavery. Like I said, I'm not arguing about this with white republicans. I know the history of the republican party and blacks, I live it every day. So some white motherfucker can't tell me shit.

For someone who claims not to be a racist you post a lot of racist screeds. It it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. In this case a stone cold racist.
 
I'm not joining up with IM2's version of a socialist ONE WORLD / ONE RELIGION / ONE RACE utopia. I'm satisfied with my culture; I respect those who disagree; I will resist any multicultural society as it is the antithesis upon which our Republic rests. No nation can represent everyone equally. Every people need their space.

You do that, sweety, and one day, when you've grown up and became smart enough no longer to be frightened to death by diversity, you may enter a conversation with other grown-ups.

Maybe you'll even figure out what you've been trying to say here, and how to express it properly: "I will resist any multicultural society as it is the antithesis upon which our Republic rests." For now, try to be humble and use words you actually understand. The smaller ones, you know?

Now, run along.
 
I'm not joining up with IM2's version of a socialist ONE WORLD / ONE RELIGION / ONE RACE utopia. I'm satisfied with my culture; I respect those who disagree; I will resist any multicultural society as it is the antithesis upon which our Republic rests. No nation can represent everyone equally. Every people need their space.

You do that, sweety, and one day, when you've grown up and became smart enough no longer to be frightened to death by diversity, you may enter a conversation with other grown-ups.

Maybe you'll even figure out what you've been trying to say here, and how to express it properly: "I will resist any multicultural society as it is the antithesis upon which our Republic rests." For now, try to be humble and use words you actually understand. The smaller ones, you know?

Now, run along.

You run along kid, nobody cares what you think
 

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