The Future

[Hutch Starskey]

We know good healthcate can be promoted by govt. There's successful models all around the world.

no there isnt,,,

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

You stupid partisan sheep are always going on about healthcare cost.
Guess what asshole.. govt getting involved in healthcare caused the cost to shoot up. Look up when the cost of healthcare started to rise beyond normal inflation and when govt got greedy with our healthcare industry.
Partisan sheep never fucking think. They react.
Grow up faggots. You have already fucked this country up. Its time to give it a break.

Show us.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

Now we are because there is no mandate.

You were free not to then. No one is forcing you to seek medical care.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

Now we are because there is no mandate.

You were free not to then. No one is forcing you to seek medical care.

No, the govt forced everyone to buy a product or pay a penalty. Thats not free.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It's not relevant at all within the context of healthcare. What part of "we already pay for that" don't you get?

If someone is fraudulently debiting money out of your bank account on a weekly bases to pay for their gasoline and does so for a few months, then they start taking out more for groceries before you decided to put a stop to it all, can they also get away with it by saying "you are already paying for my necessities."


(note: this is the proper identification and use of a fallacy to question an argument. No mention of the "Appeal to Tradition" is necessary.)

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

maybe for you its not,,,

It's not for anyone.

 

[Wry Catcher]

no there isnt,,,

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

As the man said, there are no atheists in fox holes.

Of course those who don't buy health insurance will always end up in the ER at the expense of the non scofflaws.

 

[progressive hunter]

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

maybe for you its not,,,

It's not for anyone.

who are you to speak for everyone???

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

NOT done.

You didn't show me SHIT.

That article is a bunch of bullshit hearsay conclusion with no substance.

But, here is the real issue.(from your article):

"The main drivers of higher health care spending in the U.S. are generally high prices — for salaries of physicians and nurses, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and administration."

So, by deduction, what is your ultimate objective?

Who the fuck is going to go to 12 years of school +4 years of undergrad +4 years of medical school +2 years of residency, incurring nearly $1 million in debt just to get paid CHICKEN FEED???

You are a fucking economic moron. You're no different than all the other commies who don't understand economics.

.

LOL.......
By definition; higher costs with worse outcomes is a less successful model than other govt managed healthcare plans, dope.

I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

NOT done.

You didn't show me SHIT.

That article is a bunch of bullshit hearsay conclusion with no substance.

But, here is the real issue.(from your article):

"The main drivers of higher health care spending in the U.S. are generally high prices — for salaries of physicians and nurses, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and administration."

So, by deduction, what is your ultimate objective?

Who the fuck is going to go to 12 years of school +4 years of undergrad +4 years of medical school +2 years of residency, incurring nearly $1 million in debt just to get paid CHICKEN FEED???

You are a fucking economic moron. You're no different than all the other commies who don't understand economics.

.

LOL.......
By definition; higher costs with worse outcomes is a less successful model than other govt managed healthcare plans, dope.

I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...

What choice do you believe you would be losing?

 

[progressive hunter]

Really?
Show us.
Show us a costlier, govt run system with worse treatment outcomes.

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

As the man said, there are no atheists in fox holes.

Of course those who don't buy health insurance will always end up in the ER at the expense of the non scofflaws.

thats the fault of the hospital that they dont sue them for the fees

 

[BrokeLoser]

Some people think good health can be promoted by government, others have been brainwashed by the special interests and the pols who benefit from their dollars.

We know good healthcate can be promoted by govt. There's successful models all around the world.

Do those “models” include 80-100 million illegal and barely legal thirdworlders? Does more than half their nation pay zero in income taxes? Isn’t their minimum tax rate 30-40%?
Wake up bud...you simply can not have socialism and a wide open border between us and disgusting thirdworlders.

None of that is relevant in any way.
This country already pays for all that, dope.

You make no sense bud...think once...It’s all relevant. There is no more free shit available for you beggars. The wetbacks have fucked you lowlife degenerates over.

 

[progressive hunter]

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

NOT done.

You didn't show me SHIT.

That article is a bunch of bullshit hearsay conclusion with no substance.

But, here is the real issue.(from your article):

"The main drivers of higher health care spending in the U.S. are generally high prices — for salaries of physicians and nurses, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and administration."

So, by deduction, what is your ultimate objective?

Who the fuck is going to go to 12 years of school +4 years of undergrad +4 years of medical school +2 years of residency, incurring nearly $1 million in debt just to get paid CHICKEN FEED???

You are a fucking economic moron. You're no different than all the other commies who don't understand economics.

.

LOL.......
By definition; higher costs with worse outcomes is a less successful model than other govt managed healthcare plans, dope.

I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

NOT done.

You didn't show me SHIT.

That article is a bunch of bullshit hearsay conclusion with no substance.

But, here is the real issue.(from your article):

"The main drivers of higher health care spending in the U.S. are generally high prices — for salaries of physicians and nurses, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and administration."

So, by deduction, what is your ultimate objective?

Who the fuck is going to go to 12 years of school +4 years of undergrad +4 years of medical school +2 years of residency, incurring nearly $1 million in debt just to get paid CHICKEN FEED???

You are a fucking economic moron. You're no different than all the other commies who don't understand economics.

.

LOL.......
By definition; higher costs with worse outcomes is a less successful model than other govt managed healthcare plans, dope.

I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...

What choice do you believe you would be losing?

that doesnt answer my question

 

[Hutch Starskey]

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

maybe for you its not,,,

It's not for anyone.

who are you to speak for everyone???

LOL....
There is no freedom coefficient in determining efficiency. Do you factor in freedom when balancing your personal finances? If so, what value do you assign?

 

[progressive hunter]

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

maybe for you its not,,,

It's not for anyone.

who are you to speak for everyone???

LOL....
There is no freedom coefficient in determining efficiency. Do you factor in freedom when balancing your personal finances? If so, what value do you assign?

you should learn to mind your own business

 

[Hutch Starskey]

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

Now we are because there is no mandate.

You were free not to then. No one is forcing you to seek medical care.

No, the govt forced everyone to buy a product or pay a penalty. Thats not free.

Sure it is. You could have paid the small penalty and still paid out of pocket for any care you needed.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You show us.

The person making the claim is the person with the burden to prove it.

We are not required to disprove bullshit statements.

LOL.....

U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health outcomes


Done

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

As the man said, there are no atheists in fox holes.

Of course those who don't buy health insurance will always end up in the ER at the expense of the non scofflaws.

thats the fault of the hospital that they dont sue them for the fees

LOL, do you understand a civil judgment can not be enforced if a) the defendant does not have the ability to pay for the treatment; or, b) the defendant makes token payments; or, c) the judgment expires in ten years.

The fact is it costs more to file than what can be expected to recover from a suit; in fact, it is easier for the hospital to raise rates and have those with insurance pay more. Thus, the premiums raise annually.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

maybe for you its not,,,

It's not for anyone.

who are you to speak for everyone???

LOL....
There is no freedom coefficient in determining efficiency. Do you factor in freedom when balancing your personal finances? If so, what value do you assign?

you should learn to mind your own business

LOL...

You're posting in a public forum.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

LOL....
There is no freedom coefficient in determining efficiency. Do you factor in freedom when balancing your personal finances? If so, what value do you assign?

Yes.

I will bet you factor in freedom all the time. You're just not accustom to actively contemplating freedom. It's a given.

How about this:
You can have all the free healthcare and free housing you want. All you need to do is surrender all of your personal belongings and wear this orange jumpsuit. Oh, and you can't leave.

 

[progressive hunter]

like I said its about freedom not cost

might I suggest you move to a country more to your liking and leave us alone

LOL....

Freedom is not a metric for measuring the success of a healthcare system.

You're free not to use it at all.

Now we are because there is no mandate.

You were free not to then. No one is forcing you to seek medical care.

No, the govt forced everyone to buy a product or pay a penalty. Thats not free.

Sure it is. You could have paid the small penalty and still paid out of pocket for any care you needed.

or you should mind your own business

 

[S.J.]

There should be no ACA or a replacement.

I see, so you put profit first; that makes you a callous conservative and a very foolish person.

PROMOTE the general welfare, not PROVIDE. It has nothing to do with profit, it has to do with the Constitution. If you want to live in a socialist country with socialized medicine, try Cuba.

 

[progressive hunter]

maybe for you its not,,,

It's not for anyone.

who are you to speak for everyone???

LOL....
There is no freedom coefficient in determining efficiency. Do you factor in freedom when balancing your personal finances? If so, what value do you assign?

you should learn to mind your own business

LOL...

You're posting in a public forum.

and youre asking about my private life