The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

[Dragonlady]

I have never really heard Owens say anything different than what the establishment does.

Yep. Pretty much.

Ask her about monetary policy and she'd likely look like a deer in headlights.

Heh heh.

Candace Owens is pushed on us all for only one reason, because she validates the narrative of the base about blacks while allowing them to show a black face in order to claim they are not racists. If you were to ask her about any policy, she has no clue.

I never heard of her 'til a couple days ago reading one of the Arbery threads; someone put her vid up on that situation.
I wasn't impressed with her underlying argument that racism doesn't exist anymore. She didn't come out and say it, but that conviction is beneath everything she says.

I'm not saying EVERYTHING is racist, like some people see. But she takes it to the other (also wrong) extreme.

Owens recites the Conservative rhetoric

Blame the victims, plantations and pretend racism doesn’t exist

She talks the same message as King, Malcolm X and Du Bois. Government is never the answer, Community and self empowerment are the answer. That is why she terrifies white progressives.

She says nothing of the kind. White progressives aren't "terrified" of her. They consider her irrelevant and clownish. She's a token, and not in a good way.

 

[gtopa1]

These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

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The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

There is a new breed of black conservatives coming to the forefront, and they are not your typical establishment black conservatives.

www.redstate.com

Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.

GO FOR IT!!! It sure beats your usual race baiting crap!!! Be careful that you aren't saying that Blacks have been too stupid to understand the MESSAGE that Conservatives have been saying; Blacks are INDIVIDUALS as are ALL of us!!! That is still the message that is a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives!!!

Greg

 

[Marion Morrison]

All democrats agree that a clean and articulate black guy is "storybook"

"storybook" you say? I got one!
After reading it, there's nothing racist about it.
PS: That is MY book that I took a picture of.

 

[gtopa1]

One day, the Black vote may be split right down the middle, like the White vote already is, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

Collectively, they're still suffering from a bad case of Herd Instinct when it comes to politics, and they're nowhere near ready to abandon that lemming behavior.

What have Republicans offered black communities other than prisons ?

That was Clinton!!

Greg

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Until now, Black Conservatives were expected to act like Uncle Toms, spouting Conservative blame the victim rhetoric.

If the Republican Party really wants to attract blacks, they have to abandon their “plantation” rhetoric and stop their support of the Deplorables

What a load of bullshit.

A conservative is a conservative regardless of color.

What a left wing piece of shit you are.

 

[Mello711]

I think maybe black conservatives should be independent of republicans. I just feel like there is too much blatant racism from self identified republicans. I feel like I’m in a place where I want to go with the candidate I like over the party

 

[Marion Morrison]

I think maybe black conservatives should be independent of republicans. I just feel like there is too much blatant racism from self identified republicans. I feel like I’m in a place where I want to go with the candidate I like over the party

I think you're an election year shill, but everybody's got an opinion.

 

[Mello711]

One thing is for sure, the Democratic Party is on the way to the trash can. Too much infighting and division. The progressive vs moderate battle will do lots of damage, and if/when Biden loses to Trump, that will force them to either do a massive overhaul.

 

[MarathonMike]

I have never really heard Owens say anything different than what the establishment does.

Yep. That's because Owens represents the type of black person the republican establishment likes. The sellout.

I have never really heard Owens say anything different than what the establishment does.

Yep. That's because Owens represents the type of black person the republican establishment likes. The sellout.

What makes Candace Owens a "sellout" exactly? Because she appears on Fox News occasionally? Be specific why this young lady is a "sellout" and why the new Black Conservative movement is different.

 

[IM2]

These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

View attachment 336540

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

There is a new breed of black conservatives coming to the forefront, and they are not your typical establishment black conservatives.

www.redstate.com

Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.

GO FOR IT!!! It sure beats your usual race baiting crap!!! Be careful that you aren't saying that Blacks have been too stupid to understand the MESSAGE that Conservatives have been saying; Blacks are INDIVIDUALS as are ALL of us!!! That is still the message that is a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives!!!

Greg

I don't race bait. You just can't face the truth. You seem to be too dumb to understand that we don't have 330 million separate laws, one for each individual. So if that's what black conservatives are saying and if that's the message conservatives are preaching it is a delusional message. Other than that your individual bs is a lie. The preamble of the constitution shuts that lie up in it's first line.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That is we the people, not I the individual.

 

[IM2]

I have never really heard Owens say anything different than what the establishment does.

Yep. That's because Owens represents the type of black person the republican establishment likes. The sellout.

I have never really heard Owens say anything different than what the establishment does.

Yep. That's because Owens represents the type of black person the republican establishment likes. The sellout.

What makes Candace Owens a "sellout" exactly? Because she appears on Fox News occasionally? Be specific why this young lady is a "sellout" and why the new Black Conservative movement is different.

It's pretty simple. Her denigration of blacks as a black person by repeating white racist beliefs about blacks. Her denial of racism especially after she was awarded a settlement because she faced racial harassment.

The new black conservative movement does not deny racism, nor does it denigrate blacks. They recognize the issues in the black community and the impact of racism on the black community instead of adopting the white racist belief of we have a victim mentality and that racism has nothing to do with our struggle, but that we have done it to ourselves.

 

[IM2]

One thing is for sure, the Democratic Party is on the way to the trash can. Too much infighting and division. The progressive vs moderate battle will do lots of damage, and if/when Biden loses to Trump, that will force them to either do a massive overhaul.

You might want to look at the republican party for that. What you saw from democrats was a healthy debate during a presidential campaign. trump will not be re elected and then it will be the republican party that will have to check itself. Because you are probably going to lose the senate too.

 

[ninja007]

One day, the Black vote may be split right down the middle, like the White vote already is, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

The black voter votes for the candidate from the party that best represents the interest of black people. When both parties candidates equally represent the concerns of black people, the black vote will reflect that.

WTH HAVE THE LIBS DONE FOR BLACKS IN 50 YEARS?

 

[IM2]

I have never really heard Owens say anything different than what the establishment does.

Yep. Pretty much.

Ask her about monetary policy and she'd likely look like a deer in headlights.

Heh heh.

Candace Owens is pushed on us all for only one reason, because she validates the narrative of the base about blacks while allowing them to show a black face in order to claim they are not racists. If you were to ask her about any policy, she has no clue.

I never heard of her 'til a couple days ago reading one of the Arbery threads; someone put her vid up on that situation.
I wasn't impressed with her underlying argument that racism doesn't exist anymore. She didn't come out and say it, but that conviction is beneath everything she says.

I'm not saying EVERYTHING is racist, like some people see. But she takes it to the other (also wrong) extreme.

Owens recites the Conservative rhetoric

Blame the victims, plantations and pretend racism doesn’t exist

She talks the same message as King, Malcolm X and Du Bois. Government is never the answer, Community and self empowerment are the answer. That is why she terrifies white progressives.

She says nothing of the kind. White progressives aren't "terrified" of her. They consider her irrelevant and clownish. She's a token, and not in a good way.

These conservative always think somebody scared of them. Candace Owens would get destroyed in a debate against ANY progressive today. I'd like to see her try Stacy Abrams. And Val Demmings would send her home crying never to be seen again. If she dared step to Elizabeth Warren may God have mercy om her because Warren won't. By the time Corey Booker was done with her, they'd arrest him for assaulting a woman. Kamala Harris would make her commit suicide on stage. Deval Patrick? Owens knows better than to try him. And Michelle Obama would shut her up for the night after the first exchange. Barack Obama? He would make her rejoin the democratic party.

 

[IM2]

One day, the Black vote may be split right down the middle, like the White vote already is, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

The black voter votes for the candidate from the party that best represents the interest of black people. When both parties candidates equally represent the concerns of black people, the black vote will reflect that.

WTH HAVE THE LIBS DONE FOR BLACKS IN 50 YEARS?

More than conservatives have. You guys have done nothing but try overturning everything that provided us with whatever chance we have now and you point fingers at liberals like you guys have done so much.

 

[Mello711]

One day, the Black vote may be split right down the middle, like the White vote already is, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

The black voter votes for the candidate from the party that best represents the interest of black people. When both parties candidates equally represent the concerns of black people, the black vote will reflect that.

WTH HAVE THE LIBS DONE FOR BLACKS IN 50 YEARS?

Not a damn thing

 

[IM2]

One day, the Black vote may be split right down the middle, like the White vote already is, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

The black voter votes for the candidate from the party that best represents the interest of black people. When both parties candidates equally represent the concerns of black people, the black vote will reflect that.

WTH HAVE THE LIBS DONE FOR BLACKS IN 50 YEARS?

Not a damn thing

Thank you.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Do ewe idiots remember Colin Powell, Condeleeza Rice, Allen West, and on and on and on and on? Dew ewe remember what the left called them?

I know people who are related to Alan West and they call him a sellout. Rice and Powell were sellouts and only in recent years have stood up against the racism in the republican party. You can go on and on, but the black conservatives in this article do not represent the philosophy of the black conservatives republicans have pushed out in from of the American people. Most of you in here will not like black conservatives like the ones who are part of this movement.

‘Racism in the Republican Party’. Do you think it is unique to the Republican Party and does not exist in the Democrat Party?

 

[gtopa1]

No

These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

View attachment 336540

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

There is a new breed of black conservatives coming to the forefront, and they are not your typical establishment black conservatives.

www.redstate.com

Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.

GO FOR IT!!! It sure beats your usual race baiting crap!!! Be careful that you aren't saying that Blacks have been too stupid to understand the MESSAGE that Conservatives have been saying; Blacks are INDIVIDUALS as are ALL of us!!! That is still the message that is a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives!!!

Greg

I don't race bait. You just can't face the truth. You seem to be too dumb to understand that we don't have 330 million separate laws, one for each individual. So if that's what black conservatives are saying and if that's the message conservatives are preaching it is a delusional message. Other than that your individual bs is a lie. The preamble of the constitution shuts that lie up in it's first line.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That is we the people, not I the individual.

Even the oldest modern federation has not found a consensus in this controversy yet. The beginning of the preamble of the U.S. constitution “We the people” is a very powerful and influential formula in constitutional law. 6 But also the preambles of several U.S. states choose the same reference but to a different political body. The relation between these two levels is subject of a fundamental debate on the sovereignty of the states touching the basis of American federalism. In his latest book Jürgen Habermas has interpreted the ambiguity of the text of the U.S. constitution as a wise reserve leaving open who should have the last word.7 Other German authors draw from it the argument that the American idea of popular sovereignty is not characterized by a will to unity, but on a pluralist understanding of the people based on equality.8

http://jeanmonnetprogram.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Gross.pdf

You seem to be conforming to the Dem stereotype of Blacks; that is NOT what your Constitution says, dopey!!!

Greg

 

[IM2]

No

These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

View attachment 336540

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

There is a new breed of black conservatives coming to the forefront, and they are not your typical establishment black conservatives.

www.redstate.com

Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.

GO FOR IT!!! It sure beats your usual race baiting crap!!! Be careful that you aren't saying that Blacks have been too stupid to understand the MESSAGE that Conservatives have been saying; Blacks are INDIVIDUALS as are ALL of us!!! That is still the message that is a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives!!!

Greg

I don't race bait. You just can't face the truth. You seem to be too dumb to understand that we don't have 330 million separate laws, one for each individual. So if that's what black conservatives are saying and if that's the message conservatives are preaching it is a delusional message. Other than that your individual bs is a lie. The preamble of the constitution shuts that lie up in it's first line.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That is we the people, not I the individual.

Even the oldest modern federation has not found a consensus in this controversy yet. The beginning of the preamble of the U.S. constitution “We the people” is a very powerful and influential formula in constitutional law. 6 But also the preambles of several U.S. states choose the same reference but to a different political body. The relation between these two levels is subject of a fundamental debate on the sovereignty of the states touching the basis of American federalism. In his latest book Jürgen Habermas has interpreted the ambiguity of the text of the U.S. constitution as a wise reserve leaving open who should have the last word.7 Other German authors draw from it the argument that the American idea of popular sovereignty is not characterized by a will to unity, but on a pluralist understanding of the people based on equality.8

http://jeanmonnetprogram.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Gross.pdf

You seem to be conforming to the Dem stereotype of Blacks; that is NOT what your Constitution says, dopey!!!

Greg

Actually it is. Again, there are not individual laws and whites made laws for groups. So your argument is invalid on it's face. Plain and simple.