To My Republican Friends......What Needs to Be Done to Win National Elections

[tinydancer]

I have been thinking about doing this post for a long time, and really didn't know how to approach it. I know those on the left will use it as a tool to bash those on the right, but that would be a mistake. This is what I think the Republicans need to do in order to win national elections.

1. Be Inclusive. The message should always be the Republican Party represents all people, whether they are currently voting for you are not. It is completely stupid to me that Blacks vote 95% Democrat, particularly when you see what the Democrats have not done for blacks over the years...but you cannot concede any vote, and you have to reach out to everyone.

2. Stop With the Nutty Social Agenda. America is a center/right Country. Americans are generally tolerant people. If you are strongly Christian and those values inform your life, that's great. But not everyone sees the world the way you do, and not everyone wants your values shoved down their throat. When the Republican Party becomes about sticking wands up a woman's vagina, and talking about "legitimate rape," you've lost just about everyone in America.

3. Don't be So Rigid Ideologically. Stop with the RINO bullshit. Ideologically pure candidates have never gotten elected to National office. Dennis Kucinich anyone? Republicans have always stood for limited Government, self-reliance, a strong national defense, and fiscal responsibility. That should encompass a big tent. Stop excluding people because they are not pure enough. That is crazy and stupid. A guy like Peter King fits that definition. Chris Christie fits that definition. Lindsey Graham fits that definition. If they are not pure enough for you...consider the alternative. Obummer or Hillary? Get off your high horse.
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4. You have to be about More than Hating Obama. Let me be clear. I hate fucking Obama. He is the worst President in my lifetime. His policies are destroying America. I loathe the man. Many of you feel the same way. However, the Republican Party needs to be about more than Hating Obama. While the hatred is justified...you have to present a positive alternative or it just comes across as bitter and spiteful.

Okay folks. That's it. Have fun tearing this apart.

1. Stand for something. Limit it, before corrupting it, work within your means. Witness, and try to be honest about it. Distinguish between personal preference, and that which you would impose on others.

2. Everything gets regulated in one way or another from drinking water to Family Planning. I'm more interested in why Medical Professionals do what they do, the advantages and disadvantages, as opposed to your depiction. Surely a Woman considering having an abortion has more to worry about being stuck up her vagina than a wand. You might want to try harder in your depiction of limited government, or government by consent, and leave out the Christian bashing... Work on those people skills, huh.

3. Corrupt your own principles, if you must.... leave mine alone... no really..... I insist.
You are great at picking sellouts. Tell me, if I may indulge you, what is the distinction between a Right Wing Statist Progressive, and a Left Wing Statist Progressive? ..... Never mind, it was a trick question. You really lost me there with Graham. :banghesd:

What is your take on John Thune?

4. I actually do not hate Obama. I pity him, I find him as human as the rest of us. I think he is way out of his league, many are. I think the Puppet Masters form public opinion, however they want, virtue, truth, right action, conscience, have little to do with, if anything at all, with the flavor of the day, I'd go further, and state that, those things are seen as obstacles to the power players, and be seen as threats. Bitter? Spiteful? Who's serving who? How about starting with doing what is right, without expectation of reward, solely because it's the right thing to do. Baby steps.

Tear things apart? Search out Constructive Liberty.

We talk to younger souls who truly don't understand the politics of time. Only what they have been fed.

So many of the younger ones only understand this silly world of life including political life thru the lens of a Miley Cyrus or a Kardashian.

The left has made Obama "pop culture". And they have no idea how life on the big screen aka life in the real world really works.

 

[mudwhistle]

Who was more moderate than Juan McCain

John McCain was once considered a conservative.

It's not McCain who has changed.

When was McCain considered to be a conservative?

Never.

He's always been a moderate.

Now Chris Christie is a newer, fatter version of John McCain.

 

[mudwhistle]

yes, I am.

But I don't try to claim I'm pretty when I'm not.

You on the other hand, whine about how government is helping themselves to your wallet when you are happy to take government money.

Better to take it from them then they take it from us.

Now go cry on somebody else's shoulder.

But the problem is, you don't see your own hypocrisy.

Let's agree. Government taxes too much, spends too much and doesn't spend smartly all of the time.

Okay.

But then to make sure you have your hand out for your cut, kind of makes you part of the problem, doesn't it?

Especially when you are such a capable guy that you can totally get by in life without government help.

So why do you support those who feel we can't.

Jesus, you are one stupid sum bitch.


You want to push entitlements down everyone's throats, along with all of the tax-increases that goes with it, yet you feel you have the right to criticize a retired military man who risked his life for his country, and expects the government to fulfill their obligations to him as per a legal and binding contract.

Repeating your childish accusation over and over again doesn't mean you're not full of bovine excrement.

 

[TemplarKormac]

But by not having insurance, you are forcing me to pay more in premiums and hospital charges to PAY for your lack of sufficient insurance.

Each insured person in CA alone was paying $1200 a year in insurance costs to pay for the un and under insured.

https://www.blueshieldca.com/bsca/about-blue-shield/newsroom/covering-uninsured.sp

That's bunk. And on top of that, 5 million people would beg to differ.

I notice you posted no facts to the contrary. Who do you think pays for the emergency room visit by the un or underinsured?

Charity? And how do you expect Obamacare to remedy the situation described in your article? Obamacare ITSELF is driving up healthcare costs for uninsured and under insured. It is having the direct opposite effect on healthcare costs in America, let alone California.

 

[Vox]

Here you go. Just in case you thought I was bullshitting. Are you ever going to really trust another Republican again if you're a conservative or a libertarian?

Does this give you a warm and fuzzy? Well I guess if you are a Clinton supporter it would.

Jenna Bush: Hillary Clinton and I are 'related' through 'Uncle' Bill - George W Bush's 'brother from another mother'

Former first-daughter Jenna Bush-Hager joked about her Clinton family ties at a charity gala earlier this week
When former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took the stage, she spoke about the 'special feeling of kinship' she had for Jenna


It's all at the link. Bazooka barf time.

Jenna Bush and Hillary Clinton are 'related' through marriage to her uncle Bill - George W Bush's 'brother from another mother' | Mail Online

In all fairness - they all are interrelated.
They have been in the same circle so long that it is inevitable.


Does not mean that the new aristocracy does not need some new blood.
To hell with their marcipans

 

[ShawnChris13]

Better to take it from them then they take it from us.



Now go cry on somebody else's shoulder.

But the problem is, you don't see your own hypocrisy.



Let's agree. Government taxes too much, spends too much and doesn't spend smartly all of the time.



Okay.



But then to make sure you have your hand out for your cut, kind of makes you part of the problem, doesn't it?



Especially when you are such a capable guy that you can totally get by in life without government help.

So why do you support those who feel we can't.



Jesus, you are one stupid sum bitch.





You want to push entitlements down everyone's throats, along with all of the tax-increases that goes with it, yet you feel you have the right to criticize a retired military man who risked his life for his country, and expects the government to fulfill their obligations to him as per a legal and binding contract.



Repeating your childish accusation over and over again doesn't mean you're not full of bovine excrement.

VA benefit reform is an issue worthy of discussion. Even welfare reform. But if you did 20 years you receive a monthly check at half of your highest earnings while serving. Not everyone deals with the same frustration as vets and find it hard to relate.

My issue with welfare and low income benefits is how poorly the programs are run. So much fraud ensues in all these programs. Not to mention that the government believes it's ok to randomly drug test active duty service members while leaving the free assistance recipients unaccountable for following the law.

Instead of sending $25 million to Kenya for a voter ID program (which would be racist here) use that money to pay for drug tests for anyone requesting government assistance.

 

[Vox]

to the original op.

Let's get back at it. Or start another thread on it.

This has gone way too far off course.

Now, i have told you winning measures we took up here. Do you think any could be applicable in your election situations?

it's a different battlefield. Before going into battle you have to map out the battlefield, determine what kind of armorment will best serve the purpose, determine tactics and strategy, make a plan, add contingencies, train and practice. Add recon and probes and you are ready to go. Republicans are unable to do any of this. They are basicly a mess of disorganized individual units with no leadership. Buried in infighting and feuds, they can't even decide how to map the battlefield let alone all that needs to follow. To make matters worse, the infantry (tp) is untested, overconfident, poorly armed and fully prepared to launch useless suicide attacks while disregarding experienced veterans of political battles of the past.

not really. Not really a different battlefield. I believe with all my heart that you should absolutely if one is a conservative or libertarian to throw the republican party overboard.

I have more of a fondness and respect for d's because they stay true to their left wing hearts.

Republicans. Define a republican today. Not asking you to do this personally, but do you get what i am asking.

What is a republican?

How can one ask for someone to vote for something that is not even defined?

^^^^^ this

 

[JakeStarkey]

Better to take it from them then they take it from us.

Now go cry on somebody else's shoulder.

But the problem is, you don't see your own hypocrisy.

Let's agree. Government taxes too much, spends too much and doesn't spend smartly all of the time.

Okay.

But then to make sure you have your hand out for your cut, kind of makes you part of the problem, doesn't it?

Especially when you are such a capable guy that you can totally get by in life without government help.

So why do you support those who feel we can't.

Jesus, you are one stupid sum bitch.


You want to push entitlements down everyone's throats, along with all of the tax-increases that goes with it, yet you feel you have the right to criticize a retired military man who risked his life for his country, and expects the government to fulfill their obligations to him as per a legal and binding contract.

Repeating your childish accusation over and over again doesn't mean you're not full of bovine excrement.

Mudwhistle is a retired military man and DoD employer who has happily accepted his paychecks, then cheered as the TeaPs shut down government, then criticized said government for not getting paid.

Only koshergrl exceeds Mudwhistle in rank partisan hypocrisy.

Mud, when you are willing to help instead of obstruct, please come talk to us.

 

[Vox]

Democrats are running on a strategy of.......Republicans don't like you

It is working

Now that makes sense ... Deception has always been a Democrat political strategy though.

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to fight the deception one first needs to check it - because this constant pitching three demographics black/women/latinos as three different demographics - is a LIE.

It is basically overlapping single demographic - the single women with or without children. Which are predominantly Black and Latinos,

The dominant block of voters in black "block" are women - and they make those 10% difference between the women who vote democrat vs republican - it is a very well known statistic - single women vote 51% dem vs 41% republican and with married ones it is vice verse.
And who is making the vast majority of the black voting "block" which votes 90% dem? That's right - the single women. those 10% difference.

If you THINK and ANALYZE looking at statistics - you will see how much lies are just streaming from the talking heads - just simple analysis proves that it is a lie that women vote predominantly democrat - they vote 50/50.
As do generally all Americans.

Don't believe everything you hear from LSM or talking heads.

You can check it yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

Gerrymandering?

Dems wrote the book on it. Here slime balls................ Is it a white candidate or a black candidate?

You really don't understand the concept of gerrymandering do you? By forcing all Democrats into one district like the 12th, Republucans are able to take 9 out of 13 districts.

The 12th District works in FAVOR of Republicans

 

[WelfareQueen]

To the original OP.

Let's get back at it. Or start another thread on it.

This has gone way too far off course.

Now, I have told you winning measures we took up here. Do you think any could be applicable in your election situations?

Thank you.


Another thought. Republicans need to very aggressively attack the Democrat divide and conquer strategy. We are not black-Americans...Hispanic-Americans...Single Female Americans. Stop the pandering and the bullshit.

Blacks, Whites, Men, Women, Hispanics and many others have built this Nation. We are a not a Nation of separate communities. We are one Community. Any party that talks strongly to that basic truth will win. Stop the pandering and stop separating people.

Bull Shit
Demographics help determine how and why people vote the way they do. Different groups have different wants and needs. To think we are one community and a one size fits all will satisfy needs is simplistic

Demographics go beyond black and white. They include old and young, rich and poor, urban and rural, married and unmarried.....

To date, Republucans have concentrated on the rich vs poor demographic. It is killing them

Democrats always talk about demographics. It is demeaning and condescending. I am not a demographic...I am a human being and an American. That is what matters.

 

[BDBoop]

I gotta say, dude; you know how to throw one helluva thread.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Demographics help determine how and why people vote the way they do. Different groups have different wants and needs. To think we are one community and a one size fits all will satisfy needs is simplistic

Do feel then that it's the responsibility of the federal bureaucracy to identify Americans by groups and then cater specifically to each?

.

Government is a delicate balance of helping those who need help.

The Government has no Constitutional obligation to "help" anyone. You are given a Bill of Rights and the opportunity to succeed. That is all you are entitled to.

 

[Destroyer2]

I have been thinking about doing this post for a long time, and really didn't know how to approach it. I know those on the left will use it as a tool to bash those on the right, but that would be a mistake. This is what I think the Republicans need to do in order to win national elections.

1. Be Inclusive. The message should always be the Republican Party represents all people, whether they are currently voting for you are not. It is completely stupid to me that Blacks vote 95% Democrat, particularly when you see what the Democrats have not done for blacks over the years...but you cannot concede any vote, and you have to reach out to everyone.

2. Stop With the Nutty Social Agenda. America is a center/right Country. Americans are generally tolerant people. If you are strongly Christian and those values inform your life, that's great. But not everyone sees the world the way you do, and not everyone wants your values shoved down their throat. When the Republican Party becomes about sticking wands up a woman's vagina, and talking about "legitimate rape," you've lost just about everyone in America.

3. Don't be So Rigid Ideologically. Stop with the RINO bullshit. Ideologically pure candidates have never gotten elected to National office. Dennis Kucinich anyone? Republicans have always stood for limited Government, self-reliance, a strong national defense, and fiscal responsibility. That should encompass a big tent. Stop excluding people because they are not pure enough. That is crazy and stupid. A guy like Peter King fits that definition. Chris Christie fits that definition. Lindsey Graham fits that definition. If they are not pure enough for you...consider the alternative. Obummer or Hillary? Get off your high horse.
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4. You have to be about More than Hating Obama. Let me be clear. I hate fucking Obama. He is the worst President in my lifetime. His policies are destroying America. I loathe the man. Many of you feel the same way. However, the Republican Party needs to be about more than Hating Obama. While the hatred is justified...you have to present a positive alternative or it just comes across as bitter and spiteful.

Okay folks. That's it. Have fun tearing this apart.

See? This is the kind of Republican I'd vote for in an election, bolded stuff being particularly important.

Not one that tells everyone they must live life by Christian values while at the same time saying that government should be limited, all liberals are communists/socialists/fascists that should be exterminated, and promoting purism as the only avenue to success.

(I'd put the obligatory Hitler reference in there, but nah, I'm not feeling it today.)

 

[Vox]

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yes. a candidate who can be taken so indefensible like he did in that moment NEVER wins.
He lost the election that moment.

He should have been prepared for that and lash at the bitch as she deserved.
And that would have brought him the win.

The jaw dropping on the incredibility of the moment is allowable for the TV watchers, not the fighting candidate.
He was not prepared for the LIE.

and in order to win with this leftard scum of the earth one does not only have to be prepared for the lie - one has to be prepared to kill for that lie.

Please point out where a candidate has ever won a debate by lashing out at the moderator?

Fact is, he claimed Obama didn't call Benghazi terrorism when he obviously had and was on record doing so.

But that isn't the moment that lost him the election.

The moment he lost the election is when he got caught calling half the countries moochers to people who paid more for lunch than an average American makes in a year.

and obama did not. it was a lie. he was referring in general terms about ANY terrorist attack and not this particular one.

that was a lie and she should have been called on that. he was not prepared to face a lie. and he should - he knows whom he is dealing with. The dimocrap scum, which always lies.
He was not and that is why he lost.
That moment was a quintessential of the Romney campaign.

 

[Vox]

Bullshit.

The election turned at the moment Romney didn't have the stones to pivot, tell Candy what a political hack she was and didn't walk off the stage.

He didn't seize the moment. You don't understand this at all do you?

A leader would have chosen this moment and it would have been beyond all belief.

But sadly, and don't get me wrong, I do think Mitt Romney is a good man. BUT a leader would have taken that moment as a gift, looked that bitch in the eye and as Jack Burton would say.................

It's like I told my last wife, I says, "Honey, I never drive faster than I can see.

Besides that, it's all in the reflexes." You just listen to the Pork-Chop Express and take his advice on a dark and stormy night.

When some wild-eyed, 8 foot tall, maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your head up against a bar-room wall, he looks you crooked in the eye and asks you if you've paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye and remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that "Have you paid your dues, Jack?"

"Yes sir, the cheque is in the mail."

Mitt obviously never saw the movie.

Ooookay, you just went off the rails again...

ARe the meds not kicking in?

Had some fun there. If you don't understand that this is a classic quote from Big Trouble well pity you.


But this is the way Candy should have been treated that night. Man she needed to be bitch slapped to the next tomorrow. And one more mother fucking time no self respecting conservative should ever go on with her without confronting her on what she did that night.

Have balls and bitch slap the douche bag. Back up Romney. Attack the piece of shit.

they don't understand that Mitt lost that election because exactly at that moment the ones who were not very fond of him and who, at the end, did not bother to vote for him - from the conservative base - if he would have been prepared for the lie and react accordingly, showing the LEADERSHIP - THOSE people, those ones who did not bother to vote, might have been bothered.
But they will repeat the mantra of black/latino/female/gays vote, as if that vote mattered. That vote was already designated to the left and the conservative one was the one in question.

 

[ShawnChris13]

What I hate about demographics is that it shows the parties aren't looking for answers to solutions. They're looking for platforms to vote for.

 

[mudwhistle]

I gotta say, dude; you know how to throw one helluva thread.

Fucken 'A'

 

[mudwhistle]

Do feel then that it's the responsibility of the federal bureaucracy to identify Americans by groups and then cater specifically to each?

.

Government is a delicate balance of helping those who need help.

The Government has no Constitutional obligation to "help" anyone. You are given a Bill of Rights and the opportunity to succeed. That is all you are entitled to.

I'm entitled to bitch, aren't I?????

 

[Camp]

Thank you.


Another thought. Republicans need to very aggressively attack the Democrat divide and conquer strategy. We are not black-Americans...Hispanic-Americans...Single Female Americans. Stop the pandering and the bullshit.

Blacks, Whites, Men, Women, Hispanics and many others have built this Nation. We are a not a Nation of separate communities. We are one Community. Any party that talks strongly to that basic truth will win. Stop the pandering and stop separating people.

Bull Shit
Demographics help determine how and why people vote the way they do. Different groups have different wants and needs. To think we are one community and a one size fits all will satisfy needs is simplistic

Demographics go beyond black and white. They include old and young, rich and poor, urban and rural, married and unmarried.....

To date, Republucans have concentrated on the rich vs poor demographic. It is killing them

Democrats always talk about demographics. It is demeaning and condescending. I am not a demographic...I am a human being and an American. That is what matters.

It's not demeaning and condescending. It's the science of evaluating a population of individuals. It's a business concept adapted to politics. Proper use of demographic information makes campaigning and marketing more effective and saves money. Why would a politician use advertising funds to advertise his or her policy in regards to Social Security in a district with a large University and a poplulation of mostly students and people who work for the University directly or indirectly when he or she also has an advertisement on his or her position in regards to student loans and education?