Trump Says "Insurance for Everyone."

[BULLDOG]

And how is "the government" going to pay for it, Harley? lol

probably the tax payers. You know, the ones that fund the government? Maybe in the forms of subsidies?

Glad to see TN is for free stuff.

Who said I was? I think all of this "healthcare" bullshit is absurd.
BUT I would support single payer over the bullshit we got now.

Right, because right wingers would prefer that taxes pay for all medical care more than each person having their own insurance policy. You bet.

why would taxes pay for medical care in a single payer? Why can't the individual get with other individuals and be a group of individuals. what is it about that process confuses you?

Are you advocating setting up a completely separate government....a medical government to represent every person in the country for medical issues? That's just nuts.

 

[owebo]

They already are anyway, what's your point?

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

It should be gone within the month....

The legislation to repeal and replace it may be in place in a month but implementing it will take longer.

Of course it will, democrats not only destroyed health insurance, they destroyed the health care industry....it will take time to rebuild it.....

They already are anyway, what's your point?

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?

Weren't what child?

 

[LoneLaugher]

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

Whoa! You seem tough and rugged. I'd better watch out for you.

Nope, just knowledgeable, go for it.
The topic here is Health Insurance, you start.

Check the archives. I'm prolific on the subject. Give me a shout after you familiarize yourself with my body of work.

 

[owebo]

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

Whoa! You seem tough and rugged. I'd better watch out for you.

Nope, just knowledgeable, go for it.
The topic here is Health Insurance, you start.

Check the archives. I'm prolific on the subject. Give me a shout after you familiarize yourself with my body of work.

And your body of work is over in 4 days...

 

[theHawk]

IDK maybe. He said early in the primaries he was for it
Duh. You don't think poor people are gonna pay anything?
Americans of all stripes did, apparently.

And how is "the government" going to pay for it, Harley? lol

probably the tax payers. You know, the ones that fund the government? Maybe in the forms of subsidies?

Gotcha. Just checking to see what Republicans all of a sudden support.

We've never been against healthcare or insurance. That's always been a progressive lie in order to demonize the right. What we cannot do is have income redistribution through subsidies like the ACA does, it just fucks over the middle class. Forcing the lower class to pay for most of their own health care is the way to go.

Huh? WTF is wrong with you? The lower class can barely afford to pay their fucking rent, how can they pay for health care in this country? Has living in Germany given you a lobotomy?

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is proposing universal healthcare as a right, regardless of one's ability to pay.

L. O. L.

That's if you believe him, which is another lol.

 

[owebo]

Trump is proposing universal healthcare as a right, regardless of one's ability to pay.

L. O. L.

That's if you believe him, which is another lol.

Link?

 

[SYTFE]

And how is "the government" going to pay for it, Harley? lol

probably the tax payers. You know, the ones that fund the government? Maybe in the forms of subsidies?

Gotcha. Just checking to see what Republicans all of a sudden support.

We've never been against healthcare or insurance. That's always been a progressive lie in order to demonize the right. What we cannot do is have income redistribution through subsidies like the ACA does, it just fucks over the middle class. Forcing the lower class to pay for most of their own health care is the way to go.

Huh? WTF is wrong with you? The lower class can barely afford to pay their fucking rent, how can they pay for health care in this country? Has living in Germany given you a lobotomy?

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

Jesus dude. You really are out of your fucking mind. You're just not living on the same planet as the rest of us. What sort of jobs do you think illegals have anyway? Do you think they're performing open heart surgery? Do you think they're constructing elaborate plans for commercial buildings? Do you think they're arguing cases in court rooms? lol, dude...they're cleaning fucking houses, mowing lawns and picking strawberries.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is proposing universal healthcare as a right, regardless of one's ability to pay.

L. O. L.

That's if you believe him, which is another lol.

Link?

Every time you ask for a link, you remind us of all the links you never provided.

 

[owebo]

probably the tax payers. You know, the ones that fund the government? Maybe in the forms of subsidies?

Gotcha. Just checking to see what Republicans all of a sudden support.

We've never been against healthcare or insurance. That's always been a progressive lie in order to demonize the right. What we cannot do is have income redistribution through subsidies like the ACA does, it just fucks over the middle class. Forcing the lower class to pay for most of their own health care is the way to go.

Huh? WTF is wrong with you? The lower class can barely afford to pay their fucking rent, how can they pay for health care in this country? Has living in Germany given you a lobotomy?

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

Jesus dude. You really are out of your fucking mind. You're just not living on the same planet as the rest of us. What sort of jobs do you think illegals have anyway? Do you think they're performing open heart surgery? Do you think they're constructing elaborate plans for commercial buildings? Do you think they're arguing cases in court rooms? lol, dude...they're cleaning fucking houses, mowing lawns and picking strawberries.

Don't know because democrats hide them....we will find out after they leave....

 

[owebo]

Trump is proposing universal healthcare as a right, regardless of one's ability to pay.

L. O. L.

That's if you believe him, which is another lol.

Link?

Every time you ask for a link, you remind us of all the links you never provided.

link?

 

[Doc1]

They already are anyway, what's your point?

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

It should be gone within the month....

The legislation to repeal and replace it may be in place in a month but implementing it will take longer.

Of course it will, democrats not only destroyed health insurance, they destroyed the health care industry....it will take time to rebuild it.....

They already are anyway, what's your point?

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?

Again you try to deflect.

Here is what you said....

"Which means, if true, that those without the financial ability to buy insurance will get it paid for out of your taxes.

Something you used to object to until you joined the Trump cult."

Here is what I said....

"They already are anyway, what's your point?"

Your first deflection..

"So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one."

My response....

"We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them."

Another deflection....and then....

"We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?"

Your last deflection.
You don't get to deflect, you don't get to move the goalposts.

The fact we've always been paying for the care for the poor. The problem that spending went up crazily with the ACA. NOW it's not just their care, it's their premiums AND in some cases the cost sharing.

 

[Doc1]

Obama lied, Stevens died....

Yes. But that does not take away from the fact you tards are okay with Bush lied, people died when Trump says it.

Are you incapable of posting without being an asshole kid?

Nutbags always hate it when they get schooled.

I've yet to be "schooled" did you want to try?

Maybe. Say something interesting and I might.

Meaning you have nothing, you're dismissed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What exactly does he mean by that? Single payer?

When asked how he would pay for it, his response was "the government."

lol, this is the guy is who you Repubs voted for?

He's going to show you Democrats were right. The government is the boss. He's going to regulate the insurance industry

Just the opposite, he's going to deregulate it to bring costs and premiums down and he is going to offer alternatives like health savings accounts to motivate insurers to reduce premiums.

If you're giving Americans massive amounts of taxpayer assistance to buy insurance AND deregulating the providers,

that's the perfect formula for runaway price gouging by those insurers.

 

[Doc1]

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

Whoa! You seem tough and rugged. I'd better watch out for you.

Nope, just knowledgeable, go for it.
The topic here is Health Insurance, you start.

Check the archives. I'm prolific on the subject. Give me a shout after you familiarize yourself with my body of work.

You're an amateur kid, I'll embarrass you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

It should be gone within the month....

The legislation to repeal and replace it may be in place in a month but implementing it will take longer.

Of course it will, democrats not only destroyed health insurance, they destroyed the health care industry....it will take time to rebuild it.....

So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one.

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?

Again you try to deflect.

Here is what you said....

"Which means, if true, that those without the financial ability to buy insurance will get it paid for out of your taxes.

Something you used to object to until you joined the Trump cult."

Here is what I said....

"They already are anyway, what's your point?"

Your first deflection..

"So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one."

My response....

"We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them."

Another deflection....and then....

"We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?"

Your last deflection.
You don't get to deflect, you don't get to move the goalposts.

The fact we've always been paying for the care for the poor. The problem that spending went up crazily with the ACA. NOW it's not just their care, it's their premiums AND in some cases the cost sharing.

You didn't answer the question.

The poor get Medicaid. That has nothing to do with subsidies in Obamacare.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What exactly does he mean by that? Single payer?

When asked how he would pay for it, his response was "the government."

lol, this is the guy is who you Repubs voted for?

He's going to show you Democrats were right. The government is the boss. He's going to regulate the insurance industry

Just the opposite, he's going to deregulate it to bring costs and premiums down and he is going to offer alternatives like health savings accounts to motivate insurers to reduce premiums.

If you're giving Americans massive amounts of taxpayer assistance to buy insurance AND deregulating the providers,

that's the perfect formula for runaway price gouging by those insurers.

The deregulation will create competition and competition will tend to lower premiums, so it's a formula for getting better value for your premium dollars.

 

[owebo]

It should be gone within the month....

The legislation to repeal and replace it may be in place in a month but implementing it will take longer.

Of course it will, democrats not only destroyed health insurance, they destroyed the health care industry....it will take time to rebuild it.....

You really aren't my league with this subject but here we go.
We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them.

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?

Again you try to deflect.

Here is what you said....

"Which means, if true, that those without the financial ability to buy insurance will get it paid for out of your taxes.

Something you used to object to until you joined the Trump cult."

Here is what I said....

"They already are anyway, what's your point?"

Your first deflection..

"So Trump isn't really repealing Obamacare, he's just going to rebrand it?

lol, that's a good one."

My response....

"We are already paying their insurance, subsidies and cost sharing. We are already paying their bills, nobody who must rely on the subsidies in order to enroll can pay for that 14200 out of pocket maximum for a hospital stay so the sad truth is, AS I stated, we are already paying for everything for them."

Another deflection....and then....

"We weren't before the Obamacare subsidies, right?"

Your last deflection.
You don't get to deflect, you don't get to move the goalposts.

The fact we've always been paying for the care for the poor. The problem that spending went up crazily with the ACA. NOW it's not just their care, it's their premiums AND in some cases the cost sharing.

You didn't answer the question.

The poor get Medicaid. That has nothing to do with subsidies in Obamacare.

We will get all your tyranny fixed in no time.....

 

[theHawk]

probably the tax payers. You know, the ones that fund the government? Maybe in the forms of subsidies?

Gotcha. Just checking to see what Republicans all of a sudden support.

We've never been against healthcare or insurance. That's always been a progressive lie in order to demonize the right. What we cannot do is have income redistribution through subsidies like the ACA does, it just fucks over the middle class. Forcing the lower class to pay for most of their own health care is the way to go.

Huh? WTF is wrong with you? The lower class can barely afford to pay their fucking rent, how can they pay for health care in this country? Has living in Germany given you a lobotomy?

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

Jesus dude. You really are out of your fucking mind. You're just not living on the same planet as the rest of us. What sort of jobs do you think illegals have anyway? Do you think they're performing open heart surgery? Do you think they're constructing elaborate plans for commercial buildings? Do you think they're arguing cases in court rooms? lol, dude...they're cleaning fucking houses, mowing lawns and picking strawberries.

Yup, they do low skill work. You know, the stuff people on welfare should be doing themselves. The stuff they would be doing if it weren't for welfare paying them to sit on their asses all day. You act as if those jobs are beneath people doing.

 

[SYTFE]

What? You people are flailing because Trump is promising universal healthcare on the taxpayers' dime,

something conservatives rail against.

I won't allow you to deflect kid.
The original thing I said in response to your statement that we would end up paying for their insurance. I told you that we already are and I gave you examples of it.
You can run, you can ignore me, but you will not be allowed to deflect. If you engage you will engage on topic .

Whoa! You seem tough and rugged. I'd better watch out for you.

Nope, just knowledgeable, go for it.
The topic here is Health Insurance, you start.

Check the archives. I'm prolific on the subject. Give me a shout after you familiarize yourself with my body of work.

You're an amateur kid, I'll embarrass you.

There isn't anyone on this forum, let alone this planet -- that you could embarrass, internet tough guy. You've watched Tombstone too many times, doc.