trump's greatest disaster may have alteady happened....

[martybegan]

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

 

[RealDave]

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Marty is right. Because Dumbass Marty is so smart & those statisticians were too stupid to know people die all the time and would not have factored them in.

The problem with dumbasses like Marty is that they actually think they are smart. Wow.

What a nothing post. All you have in your arsenal.

You idiots are trying desperately to pin this on Trump and failing. Even if the numbers have any reality to them, PR's own local government bears the brunt of the responsibility.

Again FEMA is designed to be reinforcements, not the lead agency in the recovery.

Trump Failed the Americans of Puerto Rico

The article talks about how childish & inept your orange hero is/was wuith the Puerto Rico relief efforts.

it's an opinion piece based on the flawed study I just provided a critique of.

It adds nothing to the existing discussion.

You are worse than Trump. You are so fucking stupid that you think you know more about statistics than the uneducated morons at Harvard.

You refusing every to accept any documenttaion is why you are suck a fucking dick. Stupid, Ignorant Trumpette Marty.

Marty, last seen running naked in the old people's home sctreaming " OMG OMG OMG Fake News!!!! Fake News !!!!! OMG ONG OMG."

 

[RealDave]

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

It is an estimated based on facts and sound proven statistical methods..

 

[martybegan]

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Marty is right. Because Dumbass Marty is so smart & those statisticians were too stupid to know people die all the time and would not have factored them in.

The problem with dumbasses like Marty is that they actually think they are smart. Wow.

What a nothing post. All you have in your arsenal.

You idiots are trying desperately to pin this on Trump and failing. Even if the numbers have any reality to them, PR's own local government bears the brunt of the responsibility.

Again FEMA is designed to be reinforcements, not the lead agency in the recovery.

Trump Failed the Americans of Puerto Rico

The article talks about how childish & inept your orange hero is/was wuith the Puerto Rico relief efforts.

it's an opinion piece based on the flawed study I just provided a critique of.

It adds nothing to the existing discussion.

You are worse than Trump. You are so fucking stupid that you think you know more about statistics than the uneducated morons at Harvard.

You refusing every to accept any documenttaion is why you are suck a fucking dick. Stupid, Ignorant Trumpette Marty.

Marty, last seen running naked in the old people's home sctreaming " OMG OMG OMG Fake News!!!! Fake News !!!!! OMG ONG OMG."

Man, what a pathetic loser you are.

All you do is link an opinion piece that uses a bullshit number treated as fact to go over the same things already debunked by an article I linked in another thread.

Here it is for your perusal.

Do you really think Hurricane Maria killed 4,645 people in Puerto Rico? - Hot Air

here is the killer quote:

In response to questions, the researchers posted a document that includes this question: Does your study say that 4,645 died? The answer: “No. We provide a 95% confidence interval of 793 to 8,498, and 4,645 falls in the middle of this range.”

 

[martybegan]

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

It is an estimated based on facts and sound proven statistical methods..

No, it isn't. the estimate is merely the middle value of a range of 800 or so to 8000 or so, with a "95% level of confidence"

It's a wild ass guess with math behind it.

 

[rightwinger]

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

Marty is pretending these numbers are meaningless otherwise Marty would have top try to defend Trump's piss poor response.

Even dumbass Trumpettes like Marty knew PR had sub par systems especially after getting hit two weeks previous. Buit not Trump.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO> He had no clue.

FEMA's job to to prepare & help in these situations. Trump's Fema failed & Trump went over there & said how fucking great he was. Dumbass Marty believed him.

You are being a bit harsh on Crooked Donnie....he did throw them paper towels

 

[rightwinger]

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

It is an estimated based on facts and sound proven statistical methods..

No, it isn't. the estimate is merely the middle value of a range of 800 or so to 8000 or so, with a "95% level of confidence"

It's a wild ass guess with math behind it.

95 percent confidence is pretty good.
It means you are 95 percent confident it is above 800
50 percent confident it is above 5000 deaths

 

[martybegan]

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

It is an estimated based on facts and sound proven statistical methods..

No, it isn't. the estimate is merely the middle value of a range of 800 or so to 8000 or so, with a "95% level of confidence"

It's a wild ass guess with math behind it.

95 percent confidence is pretty good.
It means you are 95 percent confident it is above 800
50 percent confident it is above 5000 deaths

The confidence doesn't work like that.

It's a wild ass guess, nothing more or less.

 

[rightwinger]

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

It is an estimated based on facts and sound proven statistical methods..

No, it isn't. the estimate is merely the middle value of a range of 800 or so to 8000 or so, with a "95% level of confidence"

It's a wild ass guess with math behind it.

95 percent confidence is pretty good.
It means you are 95 percent confident it is above 800
50 percent confident it is above 5000 deaths

The confidence doesn't work like that.

It's a wild ass guess, nothing more or less.

Now you are getting just silly ignoring the mathematical science of statistics

 

[martybegan]

That number is not based on fact. stop using it as such.

It is an estimated based on facts and sound proven statistical methods..

No, it isn't. the estimate is merely the middle value of a range of 800 or so to 8000 or so, with a "95% level of confidence"

It's a wild ass guess with math behind it.

95 percent confidence is pretty good.
It means you are 95 percent confident it is above 800
50 percent confident it is above 5000 deaths

The confidence doesn't work like that.

It's a wild ass guess, nothing more or less.

Now you are getting just silly ignoring the mathematical science of statistics

Read the article for other critiques of the methods used.

 

[KissMy]

The 5,000 dead is a real number from hard work of surveying real citizens, Not political BS or critiques Trumptards invented to match political winds they felt when they stuck their finger in the air!

You can't dispute the numbers without another real survey of sample size at least as large.

 

[RealDave]

Wait ac minute. We must remember Marty has a PhD from the Rush Limbaugh Institur-e of Conservative Thought. That outranks Harvard Unversity

 

[pismoe]

the only thing that matters are dead bodies from the particular time frame when the hurricane was doing its work Gentlemen .

 

[rightwinger]

the only thing that matters are dead bodies from the particular time frame when the hurricane was doing its work Gentlemen .

Not to the dead and their families

The hurricane itself should have been the biggest fear
Not the indifference of the White House

 

[pismoe]

'pr' famblies , well let them cry but as i said , dead bodies from a certain time period when the hurricane was blowing is the only way to know . -------- surveys sound like silliness to me RWinger .

 

[rightwinger]

'pr' famblies , well let them cry but as i said , dead bodies from a certain time period when the hurricane was blowing is the only way to know . -------- surveys sound like silliness to me RWinger .

If a hurricane wipes out services and people die from a lack of those services.......it was caused by the hurricane

 

[Rustic]

The Worst Disaster of Trump’s Presidency May Have Already Happened

trump doesn't care are people in need....he cares about trump....

 

[RealDave]

the only thing that matters are dead bodies from the particular time frame when the hurricane was doing its work Gentlemen .

Katrina? Dumbass. You think the death toll from Katrina was just from when the storm passed over it? Just how fucking ignorant are you?

 

[RealDave]

I remember watching the morning news after Katrina passed through New Orleans. The reporter was standing on the street talking about how the city seemed to have survived. Other than that little stream of water running down the middle of the street.

 

[martybegan]

The 5,000 dead is a real number from hard work of surveying real citizens, Not political BS or critiques Trumptards invented to match political winds they felt when they stuck their finger in the air!

You can't dispute the numbers without another real survey of sample size at least as large.

Did you even read the study? i was done based on a survey of a number of locations, and then extrapolated out. It was not a comprehensive review of deaths throughout the Island.

that's why the actual range of guesses is from 700 to over 8000.