trump's greatest disaster may have alteady happened....

[pismoe]

and , hey , i type info that i think is accurate and there are lots of readers on the board . If i am inaccurate about anything then please correct me about my thinking on chain of command , governors , Presidents and FEMA and 'puerto rico' .

 

[martybegan]

No proof of that. And Katrina wasn't as bad as progressive mewling idiots like you made it out to be.

And again, the blame there was also at the State level.

1833 dead people. Marty says that is not bad.

Marty doesn't give a ship because over 90% of those killed in Katrina were black.

Isn't that right? Why else would anyone make such a stupid statement.

Natural disasters are natural disasters. Expecting no one to die even in a 1st world country is asking too much.

And where did you get 1833 from?

Most apprantly died in the aftermath, same as Katrina. Trump's slow response was unforgivable.

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

 

[martybegan]

if you don't think people can plan for preparing for it, why are you blaming people for not being prepared to respond to it?

I can forgive time to respond
I can’t forgive not caring about the suffering of the people

Where do you get "not caring" from?

They have spent $3.8 billion trying to get the electrical infrastructure not only back, but better able to withstand the next storm.

They have spend billions on direct aid, and sending people to help.

You are used to the public relations version of caring, which is a progressive thing. it's virtue signaling and letting other people pay for the work and do the work.

What is going on in PR is a recovery effort, made more difficult by 1) the existing government and infrastructure and 2) most of the more able people leaving the island and not coming back.

Trump did not care

All he asked was .......how much is this costing ?

“I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack.

You have an exact quote for that?

Can you at least try to use the quote function properly?

That isn't the same, and he still spent the $$.

 

[martybegan]

No proof of that. And Katrina wasn't as bad as progressive mewling idiots like you made it out to be.

And again, the blame there was also at the State level.

1833 dead people. Marty says that is not bad.

Marty doesn't give a ship because over 90% of those killed in Katrina were black.

Isn't that right? Why else would anyone make such a stupid statement.

Natural disasters are natural disasters. Expecting no one to die even in a 1st world country is asking too much.

And where did you get 1833 from?

Most apprantly died in the aftermath, same as Katrina. Trump's slow response was unforgivable.

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Define why it was fast? Marty the demander in chief wants everyone to present links & explanations while does neither.

Marty screams "OMG OMG PR was in bad shape & hence Trump's inability to fix it" ignores the idea that we knew a cat 4 hurricane was going to strike & Marty admits that Trump was too stupid to realize it meant mass destruction, so he did not prepare. It took 8 days for the Comfort to set sail. It took days to get supplied delivered by helicopter. Marty: " Donnie, you did a hell of a job"

You are the ones saying the response was deficient, almost criminal. That puts the burden of proof on you, cocksucker.

And where it the evidence there was no preparation?

You don't move assets onto an island BEFORE the storm strikes, you doddering moron.

 

[rightwinger]

1833 dead people. Marty says that is not bad.

Marty doesn't give a ship because over 90% of those killed in Katrina were black.

Isn't that right? Why else would anyone make such a stupid statement.

Natural disasters are natural disasters. Expecting no one to die even in a 1st world country is asking too much.

And where did you get 1833 from?

Most apprantly died in the aftermath, same as Katrina. Trump's slow response was unforgivable.

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

 

[martybegan]

Natural disasters are natural disasters. Expecting no one to die even in a 1st world country is asking too much.

And where did you get 1833 from?

Most apprantly died in the aftermath, same as Katrina. Trump's slow response was unforgivable.

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

 

[rightwinger]

Most apprantly died in the aftermath, same as Katrina. Trump's slow response was unforgivable.

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

 

[martybegan]

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

 

[rightwinger]

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

5000 people died

Trying to blame the victims does not bring them back

Puerto Rico is an impoverished area surrounded by water, ocean water. Building infrastructure that can survive back to back Cat 5 hurricanes takes food out of peoples mouths. Once the hurricanes hit, we knew we had to take action to save lives.....we failed

 

[RealDave]

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

Marty is pretending these numbers are meaningless otherwise Marty would have top try to defend Trump's piss poor response.

Even dumbass Trumpettes like Marty knew PR had sub par systems especially after getting hit two weeks previous. Buit not Trump.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO> He had no clue.

FEMA's job to to prepare & help in these situations. Trump's Fema failed & Trump went over there & said how fucking great he was. Dumbass Marty believed him.

 

[RealDave]

Most apprantly died in the aftermath, same as Katrina. Trump's slow response was unforgivable.

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Marty is right. Because Dumbass Marty is so smart & those statisticians were too stupid to know people die all the time and would not have factored them in.

The problem with dumbasses like Marty is that they actually think they are smart. Wow.

 

[martybegan]

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

5000 people died

Trying to blame the victims does not bring them back

Puerto Rico is an impoverished area surrounded by water, ocean water. Building infrastructure that can survive back to back Cat 5 hurricanes takes food out of peoples mouths. Once the hurricanes hit, we knew we had to take action to save lives.....we failed

Stop using that number as a fact. it isn't.

Trying to score cheap political points using emotion and a made up number shows how much of a hack you are.

The government of Puerto Rico feeds it's citizens?

That is one of the dumbest statements you have ever made. Since they are an Island they should have built infrastructure that could withstand hurricanes, or at least be more hardened at critical junctures.

The lack of planning is what is making fixing things take so long, not the level of effort in the fixing.

 

[martybegan]

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

 

[martybegan]

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

Marty is pretending these numbers are meaningless otherwise Marty would have top try to defend Trump's piss poor response.

Even dumbass Trumpettes like Marty knew PR had sub par systems especially after getting hit two weeks previous. Buit not Trump.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO> He had no clue.

FEMA's job to to prepare & help in these situations. Trump's Fema failed & Trump went over there & said how fucking great he was. Dumbass Marty believed him.

You have zero proof the response was "piss poor" or could have been done any faster or better. We have facts showing billions of dollars being spent trying to fix things down there.

And how is PR's substandard infrastructure of the past decades Trump's fault?

FEMA's job is to aid local government in responding to disasters, they are not there to come in and take over.

All of your points are failures, stop trying to beat this dead horse, you fucking cocksucking loser.

 

[martybegan]

The response wasn't slow. Define why the response was slow.

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Marty is right. Because Dumbass Marty is so smart & those statisticians were too stupid to know people die all the time and would not have factored them in.

The problem with dumbasses like Marty is that they actually think they are smart. Wow.

What a nothing post. All you have in your arsenal.

You idiots are trying desperately to pin this on Trump and failing. Even if the numbers have any reality to them, PR's own local government bears the brunt of the responsibility.

Again FEMA is designed to be reinforcements, not the lead agency in the recovery.

 

[RealDave]

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Marty is right. Because Dumbass Marty is so smart & those statisticians were too stupid to know people die all the time and would not have factored them in.

The problem with dumbasses like Marty is that they actually think they are smart. Wow.

What a nothing post. All you have in your arsenal.

You idiots are trying desperately to pin this on Trump and failing. Even if the numbers have any reality to them, PR's own local government bears the brunt of the responsibility.

Again FEMA is designed to be reinforcements, not the lead agency in the recovery.

Trump Failed the Americans of Puerto Rico

The article talks about how childish & inept your orange hero is/was wuith the Puerto Rico relief efforts.

 

[RealDave]

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

Marty is pretending these numbers are meaningless otherwise Marty would have top try to defend Trump's piss poor response.

Even dumbass Trumpettes like Marty knew PR had sub par systems especially after getting hit two weeks previous. Buit not Trump.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO> He had no clue.

FEMA's job to to prepare & help in these situations. Trump's Fema failed & Trump went over there & said how fucking great he was. Dumbass Marty believed him.

You have zero proof the response was "piss poor" or could have been done any faster or better. We have facts showing billions of dollars being spent trying to fix things down there.

And how is PR's substandard infrastructure of the past decades Trump's fault?

FEMA's job is to aid local government in responding to disasters, they are not there to come in and take over.

All of your points are failures, stop trying to beat this dead horse, you fucking cocksucking loser.

Poor Marty,. Truimp gave himself a 10 out of ten rating on his Puerto Rico efforts, And orange lipped Marty believed him.

How about instead of whining like a little girl, you post articles telling how great Trump's response was?

 

[martybegan]

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Marty is right. Because Dumbass Marty is so smart & those statisticians were too stupid to know people die all the time and would not have factored them in.

The problem with dumbasses like Marty is that they actually think they are smart. Wow.

What a nothing post. All you have in your arsenal.

You idiots are trying desperately to pin this on Trump and failing. Even if the numbers have any reality to them, PR's own local government bears the brunt of the responsibility.

Again FEMA is designed to be reinforcements, not the lead agency in the recovery.

Trump Failed the Americans of Puerto Rico

The article talks about how childish & inept your orange hero is/was wuith the Puerto Rico relief efforts.

it's an opinion piece based on the flawed study I just provided a critique of.

It adds nothing to the existing discussion.

 

[martybegan]

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

Based on their analysis, and you don't know if trying to force a quicker response would help, or even be possible.

Still not factual, and you don't present any evidence of a deficient response.

For all we know, if the number is accurate, that the blame is with the State government and their lack of contingency planning or infrastructure improvements.

Marty is pretending these numbers are meaningless otherwise Marty would have top try to defend Trump's piss poor response.

Even dumbass Trumpettes like Marty knew PR had sub par systems especially after getting hit two weeks previous. Buit not Trump.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO> He had no clue.

FEMA's job to to prepare & help in these situations. Trump's Fema failed & Trump went over there & said how fucking great he was. Dumbass Marty believed him.

You have zero proof the response was "piss poor" or could have been done any faster or better. We have facts showing billions of dollars being spent trying to fix things down there.

And how is PR's substandard infrastructure of the past decades Trump's fault?

FEMA's job is to aid local government in responding to disasters, they are not there to come in and take over.

All of your points are failures, stop trying to beat this dead horse, you fucking cocksucking loser.

Poor Marty,. Truimp gave himself a 10 out of ten rating on his Puerto Rico efforts, And orange lipped Marty believed him.

How about instead of whining like a little girl, you post articles telling how great Trump's response was?

No, I just posted an article going over the issues with the study that morons like you are treating as fact.

 

[RealDave]

Because 5000 people ended up dying due to inadequate help

That number isn't a fact. stop treating it as such.

So do you think the 69 number is accurate?
You can argue the statistical accuracy, you can’t argue a hell of a lot of people died

People die all the time. the question is can they be directly linked to the hurricane, and would it require a mystical magical instant return to the status quo ante tempestas to prevent them.

Yes they do

That s where the statisticians come in. They evaluate a typical mortality rate for Puerto Rico against what it was Post Maria.
5000 more died in the months after Maria

And how many would have died if there was no response or a terrible one, like in a place like Haiti?

Your assumption is based on an instant recovery returning the mortality to normal within weeks or months of a massive disaster.

Responses and fixing things take time.

Nearly 5000 people died. Many due to Trump's low response. Marty is making excuses.