What do the Climate activists really want?

"Climate activism" is just like any other form of liberalism.

Its based up envy, scarcity and redistribution.

They want people living is destitution like in Cuba. If new technology produced the energy that America needs, they would oppose it in knee jerk fashion, just like they rejected prophylactics like hydrochloroquine as a way to resolve the Kung Flu Plandemic.
 
I have a much better idea. If you really want to understand what someone thinks, offer to take them out for a beer. Then each of you can look the other in the eye, ask all the questions you want, and get a far better understanding.

You'll never get an accurate understanding of what someone else thinks if your only sources are USMB, Tucker, Hannity, Fox, Breitbart and Gateway Pundit. I guarantee you.

Why are you on this board then? If you don't want to participate in a meaningful way, that means that you're just here to bash, not to foster understanding. And that is proven by almost every post you make.
 
Why are you on this board then? If you don't want to participate in a meaningful way, that means that you're just here to bash, not to foster understanding. And that is proven by almost every post you make.

Leave the board, you're not here for any other reason than to foster dissent.
Put me on ignore, or tough shit.
 
I have a much better idea. If you really want to understand what someone thinks, offer to take them out for a beer. Then each of you can look the other in the eye, ask all the questions you want, and get a far better understanding.

You'll never get an accurate understanding of what someone else thinks if your only sources are USMB, Tucker, Hannity, Fox, Breitbart and Gateway Pundit. I guarantee you.
that's really all you got? So they go out on the 18th green yesterday on the PGA tournament and we're supposed to ask them out for a beer after they tried to destroy the green? Wow, you really are an idiot.
 
As we read about Climate Activists going round spraying orange paint on everything they can find to vandalize it, the question must be asked, what exactly do they want? What agenda are the pushing for? They never say. All you hear is they are upset nothing is being done about global warming.

The sense that I get is, they want the global economies to simply shut down and contract like during Covid. They want people to stop traveling like they do, they want people to stop buying houses and cars that are too big to fuel and heat and cool, they want people to have less money to spend as a rule in order to have this happen. People will then stop having as many kids because they can no longer afford them, and the human population will contract along with it.

That is the sense I get from all the Left-wing climate activists. They simply want less of you and want you to suffer in any way that is needed to get less of you and have you have less along the way.

This is not a good message.

How about this instead, find a carbon free source of energy like nuclear power and demand the world governments use it to its maximum potential? That would make far more sense that it would to demand everyone have to buy EV's that are more expensive and that can ever replace all the gas cars on the road that are fueled by electricity that comes from fossil fuels and makes no sense other than making people do with less.

I get the sense, however, that these people hate humanity more than they do climate change.

That is why these same folks hate nuclear power.

Honestly I believe they don't know what they want or have a goal.

I believe the vast majority of them are bored, and have no goals in life and offer no value to society. They are climate activists because they don't know what else to do. They sit on social media and fall in with a group of people just like them and together they give each other a false sense of friendship, and purpose. They are weak minded, can't think for themselves and weak willed and no one pays attention to them so they find a cause to fight for because it gives them a sense of being paid attention to and that they are worth something.

Modern society fosters the weak and lazy so they don't have to actually do much in order to be a part of society. That's why they become activists, because they have no value or purpose in society so they fall in with a group of people just like them all they have to do is think and do what the group the group thinks and does. It's the blind and stupid leading the blind and stupid.

All they want is for others to tell them they are right, that's it. They want the illusion of doing something and they want praise and attention, even if that praise and attention is hollow. They derive power from forcing others to tell them they are right
 
As we read about Climate Activists going round spraying orange paint on everything they can find to vandalize it, the question must be asked, what exactly do they want? What agenda are the pushing for? They never say. All you hear is they are upset nothing is being done about global warming.

The sense that I get is, they want the global economies to simply shut down and contract like during Covid. They want people to stop traveling like they do, they want people to stop buying houses and cars that are too big to fuel and heat and cool, they want people to have less money to spend as a rule in order to have this happen. People will then stop having as many kids because they can no longer afford them, and the human population will contract along with it.

That is the sense I get from all the Left-wing climate activists. They simply want less of you and want you to suffer in any way that is needed to get less of you and have you have less along the way.

This is not a good message.

How about this instead, find a carbon free source of energy like nuclear power and demand the world governments use it to its maximum potential? That would make far more sense that it would to demand everyone have to buy EV's that are more expensive and that can ever replace all the gas cars on the road that are fueled by electricity that comes from fossil fuels and makes no sense other than making people do with less.

I get the sense, however, that these people hate humanity more than they do climate change.

That is why these same folks hate nuclear power.
I've said this often. They say they want us to take climate change seriously but they never once list their demands detailing exactly what they want us to do.

My favorite video of all time is Senator Joe Kennedy getting Biden's energy secretary to admit that we should spend 50 trillion dollars fighting climate change and then seemingly acknowledging that if we did this, world temps wouldn't actually go down or even go up at a smaller rate.

In other words, throw 50 trillion dollars out the window for nothing other than sending us into a great depression from us drowning in even more massive debt than we have now.

One thing Senator Kennedy did not catch from the exchange is the energy secretary saying in the beginning that it would cost trillions of dollars to fight climate change and that it would cost tens of trillions if we didn't. Later he acknowledges that we need to spend 50 trillion dollars fighting climate change, which, if I remember my math correctly, IS tens of trillions of dollars.

 
I've said this often. They say they want us to take climate change seriously but they never once list their demands detailing exactly what they want us to do.

My favorite video of all time is Senator Joe Kennedy getting Biden's energy secretary to admit that we should spend 50 trillion dollars fighting climate change and then seemingly acknowledging that if we did this, world temps wouldn't actually go down or even go up at a smaller rate.

In other words, throw 50 trillion dollars out the window for nothing other than sending us into a great depression from us drowning in even more massive debt than we have now.

One thing Senator Kennedy did not catch from the exchange is the energy secretary saying in the beginning that it would cost trillions of dollars to fight climate change and that it would cost tens of trillions if we didn't. Later he acknowledges that we need to spend 50 trillion dollars fighting climate change, which, if I remember my math correctly, IS tens of trillions of dollars.


it's a make me feel good strategy. As long as activists feel good, it's okay. Only they matter, remember. Just like be nice to transie neighbor even though they aren't nice to you!!!! You know, demofk ways,
 
it's a make me feel good strategy. As long as activists feel good, it's okay. Only they matter, remember. Just like be nice to transie neighbor even though they aren't nice to you!!!! You know, demofk ways,
Maybe they're just practicing to see if one day they can become as good of a painter as Hunter Biden, selling their works for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 
I have a much better idea. If you really want to understand what someone thinks, offer to take them out for a beer. Then each of you can look the other in the eye, ask all the questions you want, and get a far better understanding.

You'll never get an accurate understanding of what someone else thinks if your only sources are USMB, Tucker, Hannity, Fox, Breitbart and Gateway Pundit. I guarantee you.
Accuracy? If you watch a movie today there is a good chance of some mention of Prog agendas in it somehow. I expect the movers and shakers people to live the way they promote when massive resources are involved from the peasant. This is not some preacher not living like he speaks. When pure socialism is the rule and law, I know that the people at the top will be living off of the best capitalism can provide with the slaves from the lower levels servicing them.
 
Feel free to offer up those views.

That is why I started this thread

But people like Tommy want threads like this to better understand one another damned in the Badlands.

This tells me he wants to silence it like the FBI did Hunter's laptop before the last election.
imo you just more want to argue that climate change is not real, or affected by human behavior.
 
Another one of those threads that demonstrate that an OP has made exactly zero (0) effort to gain an accurate understanding of the perspectives and opinions of those who don't think just like they do.

Understanding something doesn't mean you agree with it. It just means you understand it.
Maybe you should detail exactly what you think we should be doing, instead of just mouthing off generalities. One thing that I think sums it all up is the fact that Bill Gates donates 10 million dollars per year to mitigate the carbon footprint he makes because he doesn't actually want to mitigate the carbon footprint he makes. They guy would rather just pay 10 million dollars per year instead of actually doing his part to save the planet. If we all did that, the planet would not be saved. But, he can afford it so it is up to the rest of us to all eat berries and ride around on bikes while he can afford to live the good life.
 

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