White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government

[TemplarKormac]

Uh...No.

Every employee has a superior.

Donald Trump is superior only to mental institution inmates with the worst cases of insanity. Like GOP lawmakers.

Elaborate without ad hominems.

You first.

Denizen wants sloppy seconds. Funny how all the trump trolls are going ape because Trump is only doing what every other president of theirs ever did, mad that if Trump gets all of their scum out of high positions, there will be nobody left to spy on, leak and oppose Trump with.

Sad fact for all you leftist trash: Donald Trump is the Executive Officer of the USA! He is the Chief Military Office, he is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer. He IS the United States!

Now get down on your fucking knees and kiss his ring! No general has the enemy working under him and by the time he gets reelected, he will have swept all of the trash out to the curb!

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Donald Trump has found his most loyal people. Indians.

Watch out for a massive influx of Indians into the US government.

Trump sucker Nikki Haley was the first.

My, isn't that incredibly misogynistic and bigoted of you. Enjoy being a hypocrite.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hell if I were him I'd have booted everyone left from Barry's administration. All Presidents do it.

They get rid of the hangers on and bring in their own people.

Rump doesn't know enough Lobbyists to cover all the positions.

Isn't that a good thing?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trumpery is a greater danger to America than any other political ideology. Thank god most of the sufferers of Trumpery are compelled to wear red hats to identify them t the uninfected public.

Hmm... the six million Jews who were murdered by Hitler would disagree.

 

[TemplarKormac]

no democrat is loyal to America, not one.

...

That's not true. Tulsi Gabbard served this country in the armed forces. I think that is as loyal as it gets.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Draining the swamp one traitor at a time.

Donald Trump should have been first.

I suggest you Google your nearest polling location and attempt to change that this November.

Assuming you are old enough to vote.

 

[rightwinger]

The federal government has three branches, the executive, the legislative, the judicial.

The President is the elected leader of the executive branch.

People who work in the executive branch serve the President, and if they cannot do that, they should seek alternative employment.

Not exactly. If they are political appointees then yes, they serve at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise - they serve their country, their agency, or the office of the president. If they are not political appointees they are protected by civil service laws from political retaliation.

If these employees serve in the executive branch, they are subject to the authority of the president, and the appropriate political appointees for that department of the executive. Are we saying the president shouldn't have the power to hire and fire whom he pleases for whatever reason within reason?

Political appointees work for the President
Government employees work for the people of the United States

Yeah, sure. Keep thinking that.

They are employees of the executive branch, which ultimately falls under the purview of the president. He presides over all political appointees and employees who work for the executive branch. They are all employees of the US Government, and are subject to the laws established for respective departments.

Civil Service was created to protect them from political pressure.

They swear to uphold the Constitution, not the President

 

[rightwinger]

Civil Servants can’t be fired for not supporting the Presidents politics.
That is why Civil Service was created.

No one said anything about supporting his politics. He is entitled to employees who know how to follow rules and who understand the existing consequences for breaking them.

I know you don't want him being president in the first place, but this is ludicrous.

Reporting unethical acts of the President is following the rules

No. Reporting what you deem to be ethical is what you deem to be "following the rules". You don't like Trump to begin with. So I assume you think anything he does that doesn't fall in line with your view of America is unethical.

You are influenced by biases. Not by a genuine understanding of the law or the constitution.

Civil Servants are sworn to follow the laws above Presidential “Rules”

 

[TemplarKormac]

The federal government has three branches, the executive, the legislative, the judicial.

The President is the elected leader of the executive branch.

People who work in the executive branch serve the President, and if they cannot do that, they should seek alternative employment.

Not exactly. If they are political appointees then yes, they serve at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise - they serve their country, their agency, or the office of the president. If they are not political appointees they are protected by civil service laws from political retaliation.

If these employees serve in the executive branch, they are subject to the authority of the president, and the appropriate political appointees for that department of the executive. Are we saying the president shouldn't have the power to hire and fire whom he pleases for whatever reason within reason?

Political appointees work for the President
Government employees work for the people of the United States

Yeah, sure. Keep thinking that.

They are employees of the executive branch, which ultimately falls under the purview of the president. He presides over all political appointees and employees who work for the executive branch. They are all employees of the US Government, and are subject to the laws established for respective departments.

Civil Service was created to protect them from political pressure.

They swear to uphold the Constitution, not the President

Yet they still are employed by the government. The president is the leader of this government.

Like I said, is he being disloyal to the American people, or disloyal to your political views?

Where in the First Amendment does it say a president has to be loyal to your point of view?

Gimme a freakin' break.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Civil Servants can’t be fired for not supporting the Presidents politics.
That is why Civil Service was created.

No one said anything about supporting his politics. He is entitled to employees who know how to follow rules and who understand the existing consequences for breaking them.

I know you don't want him being president in the first place, but this is ludicrous.

Reporting unethical acts of the President is following the rules

No. Reporting what you deem to be ethical is what you deem to be "following the rules". You don't like Trump to begin with. So I assume you think anything he does that doesn't fall in line with your view of America is unethical.

You are influenced by biases. Not by a genuine understanding of the law or the constitution.

Civil Servants are sworn to follow the laws above Presidential “Rules”

Read previous post.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump can fire federal employees who are disloyal to the United States.....not disloyal to him

 

[Crepitus]

No boss or supervisor would tolerate undermining and disloyal people around him. We see what that has done so far.

Trump's problem is that he waited too long. Most presidents Do It on day one.

What makes you think tRump is their boss?

I'm thinking the constitution does.

Uh... No.

You kids are always talking about the Constitution, how come none of you have ever read it?

 

[Denizen]

The federal government has three branches, the executive, the legislative, the judicial.

The President is the elected leader of the executive branch.

People who work in the executive branch serve the President, and if they cannot do that, they should seek alternative employment.

Not exactly. If they are political appointees then yes, they serve at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise - they serve their country, their agency, or the office of the president. If they are not political appointees they are protected by civil service laws from political retaliation.

All in the executive branch are there to serve the president and further his policies, if they can't do that, they need to go. Period, mic drop.

.

That's wrong. Their first duty is to the United States.

Curious... hiring and firing people to ensure proper functioning of government isn't a duty to the United States?

Or is it simply because he's not loyal to your political views?

Strange definition of loyalty you folks have. Strange indeed.

Donald Trump is loading the administration with lip-service patriots whose only credentials are obeisance to Donald Trump.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yes, but "your country" is China.

We want people loyal to America - no democrat is loyal to America, not one.

Actually they all are.
Republicans too.
Not so sure about the tRumplings though.

Quite the opposite. You democrats are waging a civil war to destroy America. You want a Marxist dictatorship with no civil rights, a centrally planned and managed economy where our rulers control the means of production. You're loyal to the Soviet Union in America, certainly not to the Constitution of the United States.

Yet another Trumpette who has no idea what a Democratic Socialist is.

Trump is now controlling what comes out of the CDC, Intelligence community. And yet you are too fucking stupid to see that is a problem.

Why is Trump seeking to control all of this/ Why is he afraid of what these agencies might say?

You are a Stalinist, pure and simple. You advocate crushing civil rights, particularly the rights of free speech and religion. You demand that the rulers be able to ravage the person and papers of political rivals on fishing expeditions. We know exactly what you are Comrade, an enemy dedicated to the destruction of our great nation.

Fuck off Trump boy.

Trump is silencing those in the CDC & intelligence community, not me.

I suggest you pry your head out of Trump's ass.

How can you see where his head is when you have your head so firmly entrenched up yours?

 

[TemplarKormac]

The federal government has three branches, the executive, the legislative, the judicial.

The President is the elected leader of the executive branch.

People who work in the executive branch serve the President, and if they cannot do that, they should seek alternative employment.

Not exactly. If they are political appointees then yes, they serve at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise - they serve their country, their agency, or the office of the president. If they are not political appointees they are protected by civil service laws from political retaliation.

All in the executive branch are there to serve the president and further his policies, if they can't do that, they need to go. Period, mic drop.

.

That's wrong. Their first duty is to the United States.

Curious... hiring and firing people to ensure proper functioning of government isn't a duty to the United States?

Or is it simply because he's not loyal to your political views?

Strange definition of loyalty you folks have. Strange indeed.

Donald Trump is loading the administration with lip-service patriots whose only credentials are obeisance to Donald Trump.

So, what kind of people should he have?

Be specific.

 

[Denizen]

Donald Trump is superior only to mental institution inmates with the worst cases of insanity. Like GOP lawmakers.

Elaborate without ad hominems.

You first.

Denizen wants sloppy seconds. Funny how all the trump trolls are going ape because Trump is only doing what every other president of theirs ever did, mad that if Trump gets all of their scum out of high positions, there will be nobody left to spy on, leak and oppose Trump with.

Sad fact for all you leftist trash: Donald Trump is the Executive Officer of the USA! He is the Chief Military Office, he is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer. He IS the United States!

Now get down on your fucking knees and kiss his ring! No general has the enemy working under him and by the time he gets reelected, he will have swept all of the trash out to the curb!

View attachment 309254

Donald Trump has found his most loyal people. Indians.

Watch out for a massive influx of Indians into the US government.

Trump sucker Nikki Haley was the first.

My, isn't that incredibly misogynistic and bigoted of you. Enjoy being a hypocrite.

How so? Nikki Haley could have a sex change and would still be a Trump-sucker.

Nikki Haley was complicit in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi because she was provided with US intelligence and kept her mouth shut.

 

[TemplarKormac]

No boss or supervisor would tolerate undermining and disloyal people around him. We see what that has done so far.

Trump's problem is that he waited too long. Most presidents Do It on day one.

What makes you think tRump is their boss?

I'm thinking the constitution does.

Uh... No.

You kids are always talking about the Constitution, how come none of you have ever read it?

I have read it. It says nothing about the president having to be loyal to your point of view. Where in the constitution does it require him to keep people who willingly undermine him under his employ?

Can you answer that for me?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Elaborate without ad hominems.

You first.

Denizen wants sloppy seconds. Funny how all the trump trolls are going ape because Trump is only doing what every other president of theirs ever did, mad that if Trump gets all of their scum out of high positions, there will be nobody left to spy on, leak and oppose Trump with.

Sad fact for all you leftist trash: Donald Trump is the Executive Officer of the USA! He is the Chief Military Office, he is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer. He IS the United States!

Now get down on your fucking knees and kiss his ring! No general has the enemy working under him and by the time he gets reelected, he will have swept all of the trash out to the curb!

View attachment 309254

Donald Trump has found his most loyal people. Indians.

Watch out for a massive influx of Indians into the US government.

Trump sucker Nikki Haley was the first.

My, isn't that incredibly misogynistic and bigoted of you. Enjoy being a hypocrite.

How so? Nikki Haley could have a sex change and would still be a Trump-sucker.

Nikki Haley was complicit in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi because she was provided with US intelligence and kept her mouth shut.

That has nothing to do with this conversation.

 

[Denizen]

Trumpery is a greater danger to America than any other political ideology. Thank god most of the sufferers of Trumpery are compelled to wear red hats to identify them t the uninfected public.

Hmm... the six million Jews who were murdered by Hitler would disagree.

Six million dead Jews are a bigger danger to the US than Trumpery? How so?

 

[TemplarKormac]

White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government'

Hmm.

Regimes that purge their government of those who might disagree with them, don't have a very positive track record.
.

And may I remind you that every administration is guilty of that.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trumpery is a greater danger to America than any other political ideology. Thank god most of the sufferers of Trumpery are compelled to wear red hats to identify them t the uninfected public.

Hmm... the six million Jews who were murdered by Hitler would disagree.

Six million dead Jews are a bigger danger to the US than Trumpery? How so?

How dense can you be?

The ideology that spurred Hitler to kill them is. And if they were alive, they would tell you just as much.

Are you doing this on purpose?