Why do progressives attempt to paint the Confederates as rightwingers?

[JakeStarkey]

Abraham Lincoln was a socialist, you do realize this? He kept correspondence with Karl Marx and had his support.
Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln, Penpals | Critical-Theory.com

So why do you support a Marxist sympathizer who opposes states rights, free speech, and habeas corpus?

You are a phony conservative, an ill informed dolt.

You are the phony conservative, my friend. Lincoln's use of big government to put down the South, end slavery, support the intercontinental railroad, state-supported land grant colleges, homesteads in the West was all Whig, not socialist.

Go learn some terms, please.

But Abraham Lincoln, as you mentioned through those college grants, rail roads subsidies, opposition to political decentralization, and institution of the first income tax certainly makes him a proto-socialist.

Son, do you understand the Whig ideology of the American plan?

Federal help with internal improvements cannot conceivably considered pre- or pro-socialism.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If push comes to shove, we can send all 138 white nationalists to Beaver Island, MI, and let them separate from the nation.

 

[Pheonixops]

In an article published in 1987 in the Golden Dawn magazine titled "Hitler for 1000 years", its editor Michaloliakos showed his support for Nazism and white supremacy.[124] Specifically he wrote, "We are the faithful soldiers of the National Socialist idea and nothing else" and "[...] WE EXIST, and continue the battle, the battle for the final victory of our race".[124] He ends the article by writing "1987, 42 years later, with our thought and soul given to the last great battle, with our thought and soul given to the black and red banners, with our thought and soul given to the memory of our great Leader, we raise our right hand up, we salute the Sun and with the courage, that is compelled by our military honor and our National Socialist duty we shout full of passion, faith to the future and our visions: HEIL HITLER!".[124] Furthermore he uses capital letters for pronouns referring to Hitler ("by Himself", "His people").[124]
On 17 August 1987, the war criminal Rudolf Hess, Adolf Hitler's deputy in the Nazi Party, who was given a life sentence at the Nuremberg Trials, committed suicide. The following day, on 18 August 1987, Golden Dawn members distributed proclamations in the center of Athens with the phrase RUDOLF HESS IMMORTAL (Greek: RUDOLF HESS ΑΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ).[125]
In pictures taken during the first congress of Golden Dawn in February 1990, the congress hall is decorated with the Swastika and the Wolfsangel.[126]
There are many cases in which Golden Dawn members have appeared to give a Nazi salute.[127][128][129] The founder of the party, Nikolaos Michaloliakos, appeared to give a Nazi salute in the Athens city council. He claims that it was merely "the salute of the national youth organisation of Ioannis Metaxas".[122][130] The party states its logo is a traditional Greek meander, not a Nazi symbol.[131]

Golden Dawn (political party) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jezuz Cripes. Why does this website attract so many of these racist waste-of-humanity reprobates?

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There are plenty over a the other forum as well, they were the clowns that tried to express the same exact views in their not so slick ways.

 

[Political Junky]

Cheap labor is a conservative sacrement.

And there's no cheaper labor than slave labor.

Bingo

 

[Iceman]

You are the phony conservative, my friend. Lincoln's use of big government to put down the South, end slavery, support the intercontinental railroad, state-supported land grant colleges, homesteads in the West was all Whig, not socialist.

Go learn some terms, please.

But Abraham Lincoln, as you mentioned through those college grants, rail roads subsidies, opposition to political decentralization, and institution of the first income tax certainly makes him a proto-socialist.

Son, do you understand the Whig ideology of the American plan?

Federal help with internal improvements cannot conceivably considered pre- or pro-socialism.

I am talking about Lincoln and the founding of the GOP. Read my post in it's entirety and get back to me.

 

[Toro]

Because all the people who defend the Confederacy today are rightwingers?

 

[g5000]

If push comes to shove, we can send all 138 white nationalists to Beaver Island, MI, and let them separate from the nation.

Actually...White-supremacist takeover plot startles tiny North Dakota town

 

[g5000]

Because all the people who defend the Confederacy today are rightwingers?

"All" is an absolute. Absolutes are dangerous. But the majority of Confederates are right wing, yes.

States rights, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, etc.

 

[Iceman]

Because all the people who defend the Confederacy today are rightwingers?

"All" is an absolute. Absolutes are dangerous. But the majority of Confederates are right wing, yes.

States rights, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, etc.

What does anti-muslim have to do with being pro-confederate? What an absurd correlation.

 

[American4Americ]

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[Toro]

Because all the people who defend the Confederacy today are rightwingers?

"All" is an absolute. Absolutes are dangerous. But the majority of Confederates are right wing, yes.

States rights, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, etc.

"Almost all" then.

Who would you consider a left winger who defends the Confederacy?

 

[Trajan]

Wallace was a dyed in the wool Democrat. He would not fit in either party today. All racism stemmed from the Democrat party that has not changed, it is not a liberal/conservative thing.

Wallace's speeches are almost word for word, Tea Party pablum. Leave of the segregation part, and they are indistinguishable.

Yes, Wallace would certainly be at home in the Tea Party. The Tea Party's support for states rights and disdain for welfare were certainly shared by white southerns. Tea Party hatred of a growing oppressive federal government is rather mild compared to how white southerns felt.

Oh what the heck ever.....for god sakes.....

states rights and ...welfare? oh like Clinton negotiating with the gop and signing welfare reform?

 

[Trajan]

Because all the people who defend the Confederacy today are rightwingers?

"All" is an absolute. Absolutes are dangerous. But the majority of Confederates are right wing, yes.

States rights, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, etc.

"Almost all" then.

Who would you consider a left winger who defends the Confederacy?

define 'defends the confederacy'....

 

[R.C. Christian]

What confederacy?

 

[Flopper]

I don't want to be supreme over any other race. I want Separation. White Separatism would be the correct phrase.

I think the word you're looking for is segregation.

No, I know the word I am looking for. Segregation implies separate but equal. That is, sharing a government and a country. Segregation obviously failed, it led to integration and non-white rule(see South Africa, Rhodesia(now Zimbabwe), the United States), just to name a few.

I am talking about a country for Whites only.

Are you going to allow Jews in your country?

 

[Trajan]

Because all the people who defend the Confederacy today are rightwingers?

"All" is an absolute. Absolutes are dangerous. But the majority of Confederates are right wing, yes.

States rights, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, etc.

"Almost all" then.

Who would you consider a left winger who defends the Confederacy?

sophistry fail old chum..... see above

 

[Iceman]

I think the word you're looking for is segregation.

No, I know the word I am looking for. Segregation implies separate but equal. That is, sharing a government and a country. Segregation obviously failed, it led to integration and non-white rule(see South Africa, Rhodesia(now Zimbabwe), the United States), just to name a few.

I am talking about a country for Whites only.

Are you going to allow Jews in your country?

I would only allow Whites into my country.

Why do you ask?

 

[daveman]

That was his July 4th "patriotic" American speech, where he decries the Civil Rights Act.

The whole speech sounds like it was plucked straight from a Tea party rally.

Using your own bigotry as "proof" that others are bigoted proves only that YOU'RE a bigot.

Wallace was a real Conservative, you wouldn't know anything about that. Modern day "Conservatives" are Center Left or Centrist at best in traditional terms of left wing and right wing.

Yeah, not really, n00b who's been here just a few days and hasn't read but a tiny fraction of my posts. But thanks for playing!

 

[daveman]

It takes a world class liar to assert this nonsense and only world class idiots believe it.

It's no shock to see PoliticalChic doing the lying and Daveman lapping it up.

...says the idiot prog who desperately wants to believe Lincoln was a Democrat.

 

[daveman]

Reality is that the conservatives were in charge in the South in the 1850s to 1865 then from 1877 until the 1960s.

Reality is that that northern and western moderate and liberal GOP and Dems beat down conservative southern Dems and GOP on Civil Rights in the 1950s and 1960s.

Yes, that's the progressive programming. You parrot it so well.

Nope, that is historical fact in context.

You have been programmed to believe reactionary revisionism, which does not reflect the truth at all.

You are a victim of reactionary propaganda, little tool.

That's nice. Run along, now.