Yes, You're A Communist

[NYcarbineer]

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That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

The country has always had elements of what could be called "socialism".

One tax, one regulation, one government program. We could call that "socialism" if we wanted.

This all exists on a continuum. Binary thinkers like the OP are paralyzed by hyperbole, and it really doesn't help the argument. If you scream "SOCIALISM" or "COMMUNISM" at programs like Medicare or Social Security, many people are going to say, "well, I like those programs, so socialism must be okay". In other words, binary hyperbole damages the cause. The OP is too consumed by her partisan ideology to see that.

It's your call. But my argument is that this type of hyperbolic approach is clearly counter-productive to your agenda.
.

If Hillary were to win, and in an act meant to "save us from Global Warming" nationalizes the power grid, as so many of the left have demanded, is that not advancing the transition from a free market to communism?

You complain of binary thinking, yet this is precisely what you demonstrate when you say that anything save complete government take over of every last business is still capitalism. democrats support a command economy and constantly strive toward that goal, This is simple reality.

This is what happens when you l

Just trying to do the math here.

If you're to the left of hardcore right wing partisan ideologues, you're a commie. Let's say 39% of people are Republican or lean Republican, 23% of people are solid Republican, see below.

So that means that about 77% of Americans are commies.

This is disturbing.

I don't look good in red.
.

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

I would say that most democrats support most planks of the communist manifesto to at least some degree.


Let's lay out the planks once more:

And unfortunately, the republicans favor many as well, for example the central bank.... any politician tremendously benefits from communism/socialism, and so do the special interest groups (in short, all parasites and coercive short term oriented people). That's why it must be so highly resisted.

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

Pretty much every one of them wants to allocate more wealth to the government and public purpose.

Which means they are not Communist.

Didn't all the GOP candidates in the primaries want to spend more money on the military,

aka, allocate more wealth to the government and public purpose?

 

[Norman]

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

So you're a Communist if you want a public education system that offers all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Doesn't that make every state in the Union Communist? Doesn't that make every country in the civilized world Communist?

Doesn't that make most of humanity Communist?

No, that just makes a lot of people (including yourself) retarded.

 

[Norman]

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

The country has always had elements of what could be called "socialism".

One tax, one regulation, one government program. We could call that "socialism" if we wanted.

This all exists on a continuum. Binary thinkers like the OP are paralyzed by hyperbole, and it really doesn't help the argument. If you scream "SOCIALISM" or "COMMUNISM" at programs like Medicare or Social Security, many people are going to say, "well, I like those programs, so socialism must be okay". In other words, binary hyperbole damages the cause. The OP is too consumed by her partisan ideology to see that.

It's your call. But my argument is that this type of hyperbolic approach is clearly counter-productive to your agenda.
.

If Hillary were to win, and in an act meant to "save us from Global Warming" nationalizes the power grid, as so many of the left have demanded, is that not advancing the transition from a free market to communism?

You complain of binary thinking, yet this is precisely what you demonstrate when you say that anything save complete government take over of every last business is still capitalism. democrats support a command economy and constantly strive toward that goal, This is simple reality.

This is what happens when you l

Just trying to do the math here.

If you're to the left of hardcore right wing partisan ideologues, you're a commie. Let's say 39% of people are Republican or lean Republican, 23% of people are solid Republican, see below.

So that means that about 77% of Americans are commies.

This is disturbing.

I don't look good in red.
.

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

I would say that most democrats support most planks of the communist manifesto to at least some degree.


Let's lay out the planks once more:

And unfortunately, the republicans favor many as well, for example the central bank.... any politician tremendously benefits from communism/socialism, and so do the special interest groups (in short, all parasites and coercive short term oriented people). That's why it must be so highly resisted.

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

Pretty much every one of them wants to allocate more wealth to the government and public purpose.

Which means they are not Communist.

Didn't all the GOP candidates in the primaries want to spend more money on the military,

aka, allocate more wealth to the government and public purpose?

When true gop, or sane people... were in power the government was about tenth the size it is now. Try again.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

So you're a Communist if you want a public education system that offers all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Doesn't that make every state in the Union Communist? Doesn't that make every country in the civilized world Communist?

Doesn't that make most of humanity Communist?

No, that just makes a lot of people (including yourself) retarded.

So you concede that agreeing with components of the Communist platform does not make one a Communist.

Then why post it with that implication?

 

[NYcarbineer]

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

The country has always had elements of what could be called "socialism".

One tax, one regulation, one government program. We could call that "socialism" if we wanted.

This all exists on a continuum. Binary thinkers like the OP are paralyzed by hyperbole, and it really doesn't help the argument. If you scream "SOCIALISM" or "COMMUNISM" at programs like Medicare or Social Security, many people are going to say, "well, I like those programs, so socialism must be okay". In other words, binary hyperbole damages the cause. The OP is too consumed by her partisan ideology to see that.

It's your call. But my argument is that this type of hyperbolic approach is clearly counter-productive to your agenda.
.

If Hillary were to win, and in an act meant to "save us from Global Warming" nationalizes the power grid, as so many of the left have demanded, is that not advancing the transition from a free market to communism?

You complain of binary thinking, yet this is precisely what you demonstrate when you say that anything save complete government take over of every last business is still capitalism. democrats support a command economy and constantly strive toward that goal, This is simple reality.

This is what happens when you l

Just trying to do the math here.

If you're to the left of hardcore right wing partisan ideologues, you're a commie. Let's say 39% of people are Republican or lean Republican, 23% of people are solid Republican, see below.

So that means that about 77% of Americans are commies.

This is disturbing.

I don't look good in red.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

I would say that most democrats support most planks of the communist manifesto to at least some degree.


Let's lay out the planks once more:

And unfortunately, the republicans favor many as well, for example the central bank.... any politician tremendously benefits from communism/socialism, and so do the special interest groups (in short, all parasites and coercive short term oriented people). That's why it must be so highly resisted.

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

Pretty much every one of them wants to allocate more wealth to the government and public purpose.

Which means they are not Communist.

Didn't all the GOP candidates in the primaries want to spend more money on the military,

aka, allocate more wealth to the government and public purpose?

When true gop, or sane people... were in power the government was about tenth the size it is now. Try again.

What GOP was that?

 

[Norman]

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

So you're a Communist if you want a public education system that offers all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Doesn't that make every state in the Union Communist? Doesn't that make every country in the civilized world Communist?

Doesn't that make most of humanity Communist?

No, that just makes a lot of people (including yourself) retarded.

So you concede that agreeing with components of the Communist platform does not make one a Communist.

Then why post it with that implication?

Could it be, because I am not an apologist of the highest order for the most vile, evil ideology ever devised?

Unlike yourself.

It's called human decency. Unfortunately a parasite might not have such decency.

 

[bripat9643]

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

The country has always had elements of what could be called "socialism".

One tax, one regulation, one government program. We could call that "socialism" if we wanted.

This all exists on a continuum. Binary thinkers like the OP are paralyzed by hyperbole, and it really doesn't help the argument. If you scream "SOCIALISM" or "COMMUNISM" at programs like Medicare or Social Security, many people are going to say, "well, I like those programs, so socialism must be okay". In other words, binary hyperbole damages the cause. The OP is too consumed by her partisan ideology to see that.

It's your call. But my argument is that this type of hyperbolic approach is clearly counter-productive to your agenda.
.

If Hillary were to win, and in an act meant to "save us from Global Warming" nationalizes the power grid, as so many of the left have demanded, is that not advancing the transition from a free market to communism?

You complain of binary thinking, yet this is precisely what you demonstrate when you say that anything save complete government take over of every last business is still capitalism. democrats support a command economy and constantly strive toward that goal, This is simple reality.

What I actually said is that this all exists on a continuum. On one end is pure anarchy, on the other end is pure communism. We're nowhere near either; but this hyperbole strategy is playing into the hands of your adversaries.
.

Democrats keep pushing us toward the communist end of the spectrum. You're naive if you think they have any stopping point in mind.

 

[bripat9643]

Just trying to do the math here.

If you're to the left of hardcore right wing partisan ideologues, you're a commie. Let's say 39% of people are Republican or lean Republican, 23% of people are solid Republican, see below.

So that means that about 77% of Americans are commies.

This is disturbing.

I don't look good in red.
.

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

I would say that most democrats support most planks of the communist manifesto to at least some degree.


Let's lay out the planks once more:

And unfortunately, the republicans favor many as well, for example the central bank.... any politician tremendously benefits from communism/socialism, and so do the special interest groups (in short, all parasites and coercive short term oriented people). That's why it must be so highly resisted.

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

Of course, none of them will admit it, but old Maxine let the tongue slip about her true agenda.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just trying to do the math here.

If you're to the left of hardcore right wing partisan ideologues, you're a commie. Let's say 39% of people are Republican or lean Republican, 23% of people are solid Republican, see below.

So that means that about 77% of Americans are commies.

This is disturbing.

I don't look good in red.
.

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

I would say that most democrats support most planks of the communist manifesto to at least some degree.


Let's lay out the planks once more:

And unfortunately, the republicans favor many as well, for example the central bank.... any politician tremendously benefits from communism/socialism, and so do the special interest groups (in short, all parasites and coercive short term oriented people). That's why it must be so highly resisted.

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

Of course, none of them will admit it, but old Maxine let the tongue slip about her true agenda.

So one in a million Democrats can be legitimately accused of being Communists?

 

[Uncensored2008]

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

All of them.

Oh, they won't say it in those terms, but when we hear them rail against inherited wealth they are saying that property does not belong to the owner to bequeath as she chooses, but is rightfully the property of the state to disperse as they please.

Bernie Sanders Calls For 65% Top Estate Tax Rate

 

[Mac1958]

Bernie Sanders Calls For 65% Top Estate Tax Rate

Our top rate was 92% under Eisenhower.
Our top rate was 91% under Kennedy.

Were we a communist country in the 50's and 60's, in your view?
.

 

[Contumacious]

Just trying to do the math here.

If you're to the left of hardcore right wing partisan ideologues, you're a commie. Let's say 39% of people are Republican or lean Republican, 23% of people are solid Republican, see below.

So that means that about 77% of Americans are commies.

This is disturbing.

I don't look good in red.
.

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

I would say that most democrats support most planks of the communist manifesto to at least some degree.


Let's lay out the planks once more:

And unfortunately, the republicans favor many as well, for example the central bank.... any politician tremendously benefits from communism/socialism, and so do the special interest groups (in short, all parasites and coercive short term oriented people). That's why it must be so highly resisted.

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

Of course, none of them will admit it, but old Maxine let the tongue slip about her true agenda.

So one in a million Democrats can be legitimately accused of being Communists?

Yep.

Why else would an avowed socialist feel he had a chance to win?!?!?!?!?!?!!?


.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bernie Sanders Calls For 65% Top Estate Tax Rate

Our top rate was 92% under Eisenhower.
Our top rate was 91% under Kennedy.

Were we a communist country in the 50's and 60's, in your view?
.

No, in the 30's when those rates were established; FDR.

 

[bripat9643]

Bernie Sanders Calls For 65% Top Estate Tax Rate

Our top rate was 92% under Eisenhower.
Our top rate was 91% under Kennedy.

Were we a communist country in the 50's and 60's, in your view?
.

No, in the 30's when those rates were established; FDR.

The FDR and Truman administrations were infested with communists.

 

[Mac1958]

Bernie Sanders Calls For 65% Top Estate Tax Rate

Our top rate was 92% under Eisenhower.
Our top rate was 91% under Kennedy.

Were we a communist country in the 50's and 60's, in your view?
.

No, in the 30's when those rates were established; FDR.

The FDR and Truman administrations were infested with communists.

Well, if you guys really are convinced that we're headed towards communism, I guess you're gonna do what you have to do.
.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well, if you guys really are convinced that we're headed towards communism, I guess you're gonna do what you have to do.
.

Vote against them?

Yes.

 

[JQPublic1]

America is a nation of liberty, brotherhood and intellectual clarity. There is no 'ism' that made or makes it great; it is the people who make it so. If it is not great, it is nevertheless the people who make it so.
The 'founders' were eclectic, not simple ideologues. They accepted and incorporated divergent concepts of theology, politics and economics.
Worshiping 'capitalism' is such a gross error that it seems unthinkable such a thing could happen. 'Capitalism' is merely a tool, something we can use, not something that must be used. It may be appropriate in some cases and not others. Blind faith in something that is not even a faith is inhuman. Capital itself is a mere creation of the mind of man, thus it and all value issue from the same source; human thought, followed by human effort.
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." Abraham Lincoln

Lincoln wasn't an economist. His theory is false.

Capitalism is the system that results when you respect the laws of economics. They are not whims. They are laws.

Lincoln didn't have to be an economist to realize that Capitalism depends on cheap labor, cheap raw materials and cheap energy so that there is enough profit to pay the owners of the means of production far more than they deserve and to pay the workers far, far less than they deserve.

Capitalism doesn't depend on cheap anything. The fundamental law of economics is that all resources are scarce, including labor.

LIke every Marxist, you don't understand the first thing about economics.

Your brilliance is stunning. But dontcha think 7 billion people might be enough of a labor pool to do any jobs on this planet?
Sure when we colonize other planets or even the moon that number might seem paltry..but right now..heh heh heh...I don't think we have a labor shortage...

There are 7 billion people on the planet available to perform labor, but all those same people need the services and products that labor produces.

You really don't think these things out, do you?

Heh heh heh...No I guess I don't see things your way...No sireeeee!

 

[NYcarbineer]

[

That's one example of one politician threatening to nationalize one industry.

That's not communism, not even close.
.

So it's not communism until the last lemonaid stand falls under federal control?

I like you Mac, I respect you and agree with you more often than not, but this is absurd. Change of this type is pursued incrementally by nature and necessity.

Healthcare
Education
Power
Water

All of these are openly and actively pursued by the left to be directly managed by the state.

It is Communism. Reality is, even if reality is uncomfortable.

So you're a Communist if you want a public education system that offers all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Doesn't that make every state in the Union Communist? Doesn't that make every country in the civilized world Communist?

Doesn't that make most of humanity Communist?

No, that just makes a lot of people (including yourself) retarded.

So you concede that agreeing with components of the Communist platform does not make one a Communist.

Then why post it with that implication?

Could it be, because I am not an apologist of the highest order for the most vile, evil ideology ever devised?

Unlike yourself.

It's called human decency. Unfortunately a parasite might not have such decency.

So you lied because you're demented.

Ok. I'll accept that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The key to Communism is plank 1. How many Democrats in public office can you name who support the abolition of private property?

All of them.

Oh, they won't say it in those terms, but when we hear them rail against inherited wealth they are saying that property does not belong to the owner to bequeath as she chooses, but is rightfully the property of the state to disperse as they please.

Bernie Sanders Calls For 65% Top Estate Tax Rate

All Democrats want to abolish all private property. I'd say that's idiotic even for you, but I'd be forgetting much else of what you've said on USMB.

Suffice to say that's idiotic.

 

[there4eyeM]

We have pumped a Poli post to 759. She should be ecstatic.
She should thank NY for all he has fed her. It was good, nourishing food, but I doubt she accepts it gracefully. In fact, it might give her indigestion.
Her little minions scuttling around trying to prop up her suppositions merit no more than ridicule; not even that. She is their star. Without her, there would be no entertainment.
Thanks also to JQ, Jillian, Wind, Dr. and anyone overlooked.
It was good yuks.
Now, good luck.