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This shows a complete lack of understanding of the Tea Party, and you aren't as non-partisan as you pretend to be.
I'm not "non-partisan". I'm ANTI-partisan.
Then you're in abject denial.
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Bwahahahaaa! All "anti-partisan" means is "I'm against anyone that has a different view than me!"
You think you fool anybody???????
The sad part is, like all liberals you are so self obsessed with your own views, I'm sure you DO think you fool everyone--including yourself!
Every business that hires employees who have gotten a basic education in a public school, and higher education in a state school, or a military academy, or via government aid,
that business benefits from government spending that it did not pay for. The economic value of the employees' education is a government funded benefit to employers.
Public education costs an average of $11,000 per pupil a year. Imagine if business had to teach their employees to read, do math or operate a computer?
Each employee they hire has an education that costs the the taxpayers over $100,000. Employers turn around and profit off of skills they didn't pay for
So did your hard work make my business thrive?
Did you risk any of your money to start my business?
Did you put in 80 hours a week for the past 5 years building my business?
Are you paying my employees and my bills so my business can stay open?
If you're not then who exactly is keeping my business open if it's not me?
Anyonr else read the bullshit above and wonder wtf this dude is going on about.
The last questions is really the one that tells all. He/she can't even figure out that it is CUSTOMERS that keep a business open.
Repubs are so stupid now that they think they just open a business, have no customers and then they succeed. Pitiful.
And then he wants patted on the back for putting up some money. And working 80 hours.
Big fuking deal. It was your choice wasn't it? Then quit bitching about it and go to work cause you sure as hell ain't a "successful" businessman wasting all the time you do on a message board.
Or is this where you troll for "customers"?
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Obama is taking an interesting and dangerous approach on the campaign trail, telling successful business owners that they "didn't get there on their own", that their success is predicated in part on the labor and efforts (and taxes) of others. This gives the GOP an opening to say, "see, he hates business owners, we told you so."
On the other hand, it opens up a national conversation that I've never seen before, building on Elizabeth Warren's comments as she runs for office.
This tactic is flying right into the teeth of the GOP's strength, that business and employers are the key to economic success. He's betting that the GOP, so controlled by absolutists right now, is going to look anti-ALL workers, not just union.
Pretty brave, and I think it's a good conversation to have.
Obama Mocks Rich: 'You Didn't Get There On Your Own'
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To assume that business operates in a vacuum and does not need the society from which it profits is ridiculous
Our society educates and trains the employees you profit off of
People make their own deals to trade their time for money. No one is forcing them to work for anyone. And if you've ever had to hire a HS grad you'd have serious doubts about just how "educated " they are.
It doesn't provide any of those. We pay for them. In fact I pay a higher rate for business phone lines than the average person.
Does not apply to a lot of businesses as not all do business abroad.
Our society provides police and fire protection to your business
Police don't protect my business I do by hiring a private alarm monitoring company. Police show up after a crime has been committed and most times stolen property is never recovered nor are the perpetrators caught.
Fire department s are not free either you know. Business people pay for them too. In my town we have a volunteer fire department which local businesses support quite generously I might add.
Our society protects your patents and protects you from unfair competition
It costs a lot of money to patent an idea and society does not pay that cost nor will it actively seek out patent or copyright infringements the persons holding the copyright or patent must submit proof of an infringement.
Every business that hires employees who have gotten a basic education in a public school, and higher education in a state school, or a military academy, or via government aid,
that business benefits from government spending that it did not pay for. The economic value of the employees' education is a government funded benefit to employers.
Public education costs an average of $11,000 per pupil a year. Imagine if business had to teach their employees to read, do math or operate a computer?
Each employee they hire has an education that costs the the taxpayers over $100,000. Employers turn around and profit off of skills they didn't pay for
omg
good grief,
Hey. Another ignorant fool checks in. Get a fuking job you dead beat.
true even if you are parapallegic,you should pull your own wieght in society.
exactly
liberals are nothing but users of people, even the disabled who want to make something of themselves
While denying the existence of the Individual, and the 9th/10th Amendments and soverignty of the Individual States.
Society did not train my employees. Most went on to get some college that they not society paid for. And when they get to me They still have to go though months of on the job traing that I pay them for.To assume that business operates in a vacuum and does not need the society from which it profits is ridiculous
Our society educates and trains the employees you profit off of
People make their own deals to trade their time for money. No one is forcing them to work for anyone. And if you've ever had to hire a HS grad you'd have serious doubts about just how "educated " they are.
It doesn't provide any of those. We pay for them. In fact I pay a higher rate for business phone lines than the average person.
Does not apply to a lot of businesses as not all do business abroad.
Police don't protect my business I do by hiring a private alarm monitoring company. Police show up after a crime has been committed and most times stolen property is never recovered nor are the perpetrators caught.
Fire department s are not free either you know. Business people pay for them too. In my town we have a volunteer fire department which local businesses support quite generously I might add.
Our society protects your patents and protects you from unfair competition
It costs a lot of money to patent an idea and society does not pay that cost nor will it actively seek out patent or copyright infringements the persons holding the copyright or patent must submit proof of an infringement.
You hire trained employees that our society has paid for. If you don't like the quality of their training, by all means train them yourself. They are your employees
That entire communications infrastructure was subsidized by the taxpayer. You hook into that network for a marginal cost to yourself. What you pay for communications in no way compenstes for the benefit you receive
Your society is paying for that police and fire department. If your business is invaded or on fire, it is your community that will protect you
Every business that hires employees who have gotten a basic education in a public school, and higher education in a state school, or a military academy, or via government aid,
that business benefits from government spending that it did not pay for. The economic value of the employees' education is a government funded benefit to employers.
Public education costs an average of $11,000 per pupil a year. Imagine if business had to teach their employees to read, do math or operate a computer?
Each employee they hire has an education that costs the the taxpayers over $100,000. Employers turn around and profit off of skills they didn't pay for
HS grads have no skills. They can barely read, they don't know how to follow directions, they sure as shit can't spell. I spent an hour trying to teach a kid how to make change without a calculator the other day.
Yeah these kids are really bright.
Every business has a training program. They have to because most businesses have specific skill and knowledge requirements.
So, business should thank government for not taking more of what isn't theirs in the first place?
And just who is paying for this "labor and effort of others"?
Just like a republican to have such a narcissistic and self-centered point of view.
They cannot admit that it takes more than an idea to have it work.
If you think your hard-work alone and your money alone makes a business thrive then you have the narcissistic attitude and reality in now way shape or form can make you see the truth.
go take a suck pill
BWAHAHAHA!
What did I tell you?
There's no reason or logic to the "platitudes" of the left.
It's about resentment and anger toward those who work hard.
The left doesn't want to work hard. They want others to work hard FOR THEM!
But when confronted with this, the left can't deny it. They just spout angry vitriol and go back demanding the hard work of others.
Funny, I thought slavery was outlawed in this Country.
But the left demand others work hard for them--and that still is slavery.
Yada-Yada, you are stupid, come with me to work and I'll show yo the meaning of sweat and toil.
Public education costs an average of $11,000 per pupil a year. Imagine if business had to teach their employees to read, do math or operate a computer?
Each employee they hire has an education that costs the the taxpayers over $100,000. Employers turn around and profit off of skills they didn't pay for
omg
What the dimwits don't under stand is that public education is mostly funded on the local level by property taxes and businesses pay much higher property taxes than do private citizens.
We not only pay property taxes on our land and physical structures but we have to pay property taxes on every piece of equipment we have including our office supplies.
So until you people have to count every chair, plate and piece of silverware every year and pay taxes on them don't tell me businesses don't foot a higher share of the bill for society than does the average American idiot.
What the dimwits don't under stand is that public education is mostly funded on the local level by property taxes and businesses pay much higher property taxes than do private citizens.
We not only pay property taxes on our land and physical structures but we have to pay property taxes on every piece of equipment we have including our office supplies.
So until you people have to count every chair, plate and piece of silverware every year and pay taxes on them don't tell me businesses don't foot a higher share of the bill for society than does the average American idiot.
You are avoiding the point of the thread which is that businesses do not do it on their own. They rely and profit off of the society in which they do business
Well don't become one. There are none in your govt at the moment either. People accusing Obama of being a socialist don't know the meaning of the word...
OH really?????????????
We can't say Obama is a socialist?????
Why not? Because you libs can't really refute that?
HOW is it NOT socialism to claim small business owners really got there because of others and therefore these "others" are entitled to their hard work?
That is COMPLETELY socialism. It is a justification for WEALTH DISTRIBUTION!
And you are telling me there are no people in our government that believe that?
BWAHAHAHAHAA, what part of the "Great Society" or the "War on Poverty" did YOU miss?
Wealth distribution is VERY MUCH a component of socialism.
You just don't want people to say that, because the truth will get Obama voted out of office.
the only wealth distribution in the US is the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
A more perfect Union.
While denying the existence of the Individual, and the 9th/10th Amendments and soverignty of the Individual States.
The states ceded most of their sovereignty voluntarily when they signed on.
OH really?????????????
We can't say Obama is a socialist?????
Why not? Because you libs can't really refute that?
HOW is it NOT socialism to claim small business owners really got there because of others and therefore these "others" are entitled to their hard work?
That is COMPLETELY socialism. It is a justification for WEALTH DISTRIBUTION!
And you are telling me there are no people in our government that believe that?
BWAHAHAHAHAA, what part of the "Great Society" or the "War on Poverty" did YOU miss?
Wealth distribution is VERY MUCH a component of socialism.
You just don't want people to say that, because the truth will get Obama voted out of office.
the only wealth distribution in the US is the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
If the poor is getting poorer it's due to the their own failings. Including the fact they they continually vote in democratic pukes who promises to take care of them as long as they stay poor.
Education is the key to success and is free to every child born in America. The poor it would seem fails to take advantage of this fact.
the only wealth distribution in the US is the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
If the poor is getting poorer it's due to the their own failings. Including the fact they they continually vote in democratic pukes who promises to take care of them as long as they stay poor.
Education is the key to success and is free to every child born in America. The poor it would seem fails to take advantage of this fact.
oh yeah, that is a good reason to be poor, but it's not factual. People are poor for many reasons, but empathy is not one of your strong suits is it?
oh yeah, that is a good reason to be poor, but it's not factual. People are poor for many reasons, but empathy is not one of your strong suits is it?
get off your high horse, what he said is TRUE..they are free to become NOT POOR in this country. EVERYONE IS
true even if you are parapallegic,you should pull your own wieght in society.
