A Conservative Take on the Disaster that is Trump

[2aguy]

After Trump won I was convinced that Flake voted for Hillary when he said that the GOP didn't win a mandate with the election of Trump

They didn't win a mandate. Trump got 3,000,000 fewer votes than Hillary.

wrote his office and said he was right, the GOP did not win a mandate Trump did and it would serve him well to not forget that. Well he is a moron, he forgot it.

Trump didn't win a mandate. He lost the popular vote.

Ilegal alien votes and voter fraud does not count....

 

[Tom Horn]

They didn't win a mandate. Trump got 3,000,000 fewer votes than Hillary..

You morons still believe that?

 

[OldLady]

Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

Jeff Flake knows that john mccain, the favorite republican member of the democrat party is dying from brain cancer, so flake wants to take his spot as the favorite republican member of the democrat party........he is just another republican who basks in the warm glow of left wing media love, because he attacks republicans.....

Here is a more accurate article on jeff flake...

Jeff Flake is Filling in For John McCain as a Liberal Media Darling

John McCain has relished his "Maverick" label ever since the leftmedia warmed up to him after his failed 2000 presidential run. He began flirting with the Democratsafter that, and the love affair was on. The MSM adores nothing more than a Republican politician who will gleefully attack other Republicans.

McCain is at home in Arizona to begin cancer treatment after once again making the Democrats and their mouthpieces in the MSM swoon for him by delivering his biggest back-stab to his own party yet. The media types who hate Trump and Republicans may have been forlorn about missing their favorite useful idiot, but they've almost been immediately rescued by the junior senator from Arizona, Jeff Flake.

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What's galling to many of my conservative friends in my native Arizona is that Flake has been a little too cozy with McCain since he got to Washington. They were hoping for the un-Maverick, and they've basically gotten Maverick Lite. My closest friends there who voted for him are all disappointed.

What's even more galling to those of us who grew up in Barry Goldwater's Arizona is Flake's none-too-subtle implication that he is somehow picking up Goldwater's mantle of conservatism. He's got an ego that's really out of sync with his accomplishments.

I never heard of the guy before, but after reading the attached link, it seems to me that he was talking about principles and living by simple truths of right and wrong. The people in the Senate and a lot in the House are not stupid. They are pretty intelligent people. They are ignoring what a mess the government has become with Trump's chaos and lack of focus. What has Trump created?
- a Commission to "investigate" voter fraud (to prove he won the popular vote, too)
- a Commission in the EPA to question climate science
- a Commission to look into discrimination against whites re: university admission policies.

In the past few weeks he has given cops the wink and nod to "not be so nice" to people in their custody and is threatening to take 7 billion from insurance companies that will end up sending people's insurance premiums sky high.
How anyone can continue to support this man. Only at extremists can, at this point.

You forgot appointing an Constitutional justice to the Supreme Court.

You forgot the stock market breaking 22,000.

You forgot illegal immigration at an all time low.

You forgot the reduction of wasteful and abusive federal regulations.

You forgot all the good things Trump has actually done......

Trump's immigration policies are his own, yes, and the regulation cuts ... well hopefully they don't come back to bite us in the ass, along with his cuts to almost all the departments in govt. If that works, fine by me. But these pet commissions are his own little projects, devised outside his campaign promises, that show his personal biases.

You mean commissions to actually look at voter fraud, the man made global warming fraud, and the effects of Affirmative Racism...that actually hurts black college students as much as it discriminates against Whites and Asians...how are these bad things?

You're a good extremist sheep.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump didn't win a mandate. He lost the popular vote

The popular vote wins you nothing so how can that be a mandate? You libs need to wake up, Trump won a massive area of our nation. He won districts in every state in the union. Clinton won in very few ares of America. That can never be a mandate regardless the numbers of votes. Hell she didn't top him by all that much anyway.

 

[2aguy]

Jeff Flake knows that john mccain, the favorite republican member of the democrat party is dying from brain cancer, so flake wants to take his spot as the favorite republican member of the democrat party........he is just another republican who basks in the warm glow of left wing media love, because he attacks republicans.....

Here is a more accurate article on jeff flake...

Jeff Flake is Filling in For John McCain as a Liberal Media Darling

John McCain has relished his "Maverick" label ever since the leftmedia warmed up to him after his failed 2000 presidential run. He began flirting with the Democratsafter that, and the love affair was on. The MSM adores nothing more than a Republican politician who will gleefully attack other Republicans.

McCain is at home in Arizona to begin cancer treatment after once again making the Democrats and their mouthpieces in the MSM swoon for him by delivering his biggest back-stab to his own party yet. The media types who hate Trump and Republicans may have been forlorn about missing their favorite useful idiot, but they've almost been immediately rescued by the junior senator from Arizona, Jeff Flake.

--------

What's galling to many of my conservative friends in my native Arizona is that Flake has been a little too cozy with McCain since he got to Washington. They were hoping for the un-Maverick, and they've basically gotten Maverick Lite. My closest friends there who voted for him are all disappointed.

What's even more galling to those of us who grew up in Barry Goldwater's Arizona is Flake's none-too-subtle implication that he is somehow picking up Goldwater's mantle of conservatism. He's got an ego that's really out of sync with his accomplishments.

I never heard of the guy before, but after reading the attached link, it seems to me that he was talking about principles and living by simple truths of right and wrong. The people in the Senate and a lot in the House are not stupid. They are pretty intelligent people. They are ignoring what a mess the government has become with Trump's chaos and lack of focus. What has Trump created?
- a Commission to "investigate" voter fraud (to prove he won the popular vote, too)
- a Commission in the EPA to question climate science
- a Commission to look into discrimination against whites re: university admission policies.

In the past few weeks he has given cops the wink and nod to "not be so nice" to people in their custody and is threatening to take 7 billion from insurance companies that will end up sending people's insurance premiums sky high.
How anyone can continue to support this man. Only at extremists can, at this point.

You forgot appointing an Constitutional justice to the Supreme Court.

You forgot the stock market breaking 22,000.

You forgot illegal immigration at an all time low.

You forgot the reduction of wasteful and abusive federal regulations.

You forgot all the good things Trump has actually done......

Trump's immigration policies are his own, yes, and the regulation cuts ... well hopefully they don't come back to bite us in the ass, along with his cuts to almost all the departments in govt. If that works, fine by me. But these pet commissions are his own little projects, devised outside his campaign promises, that show his personal biases.

You mean commissions to actually look at voter fraud, the man made global warming fraud, and the effects of Affirmative Racism...that actually hurts black college students as much as it discriminates against Whites and Asians...how are these bad things?

You're a good extremist sheep.

The only sheep here are the ones voting democrat...

 

[OldLady]

Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued

To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

Michael Gerson, a conservative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

And it's interesting to know you've become a Conservative.

I'm sure he turned straight, too.

Shut up, Marion. No one cares.

 

[The Derp]

Trump's immigration policies are his own, yes

No they're not. They're the GOP's platform, as it has remained unchanged (except for Ukraine policy which changed at the Republican Convention last year, strangely enough). So you're telling me Conservatives haven't been screaming about building a stupid wall, deporting "Mexicans", and opposing resettlement of refugees? Fuck you. Your memory may have been destroyed by all the glue you sniff, but everyone else can remember 2 years ago.

and the regulation cuts ... well hopefully they don't come back to bite us in the ass, along with his cuts to almost all the departments in govt. If that works, fine by me. But these pet commissions are his own little projects, devised outside his campaign promises, that show his personal biases.

Why would cutting government programs suddenly make them "work"? Fucking morons. The problem isn't Trump, the problem is Conservatism is anti-intellectual, anti-education, and anti-social.

 

[Mac1958]

This thread is demonstrating how the GOP is really two separate, competing parties, and why it can't seem to govern.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued

To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

Michael Gerson, a conservative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

And it's interesting to know you've become a Conservative.

I'm sure he turned straight, too.

Shut up, Marion. No one cares.

Apparently, you do!

 

[Indeependent]

Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued

To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

Michael Gerson, a conservative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

And it's interesting to know you've become a Conservative.

I'm sure he turned straight, too.

Shut up, Marion. No one cares.

"No one"? How do you know this?

 

[Tom Horn]

Trump didn't win a mandate. He lost the popular vote

The popular vote wins you nothing so how can that be a mandate? You libs need to wake up, Trump won a massive area of our nation. He won districts in every state in the union. Clinton won in very few ares of America. That can never be a mandate regardless the numbers of votes. Hell she didn't top him by all that much anyway.

Take away illegals, cartoon characters, ballot-box stuffing with more votes than people registered, folks casting absentee AND same day votes, and rigged machines......and that's just California.....imagine what happened in Chicago and NYC. Trump didn't lose the popular vote to legit voters....no way no how.

 

[The Derp]

Oh dry up, you're no conservative either....that and you talk outa your ass

You're goddamned right I'm not a Conservative. I'm proudly not a Conservative because I value education, intelligence, honesty, and society. Your ideology has turned you into an intellectually stunted anti-social douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

Fuck Neo-Con Bush and every Neo-Con in Congress.

Neo-Cons are practically no different than regular Conservatives, who are no different than Republicans, who are no different than teabags, who are no different than Klansmen.

The only difference is the color of polish on the turd.

Snowflakes are no different than Communists who are no different than ISIS members who are no different than NAMBLA members who are no different than BLM members who are no different than convicted felons.

 

[Rambunctious]

Take away illegals, cartoon characters, ballot-box stuffing with more votes than people registered, folks casting absentee AND same day votes, and rigged machines......and that's just California.....imagine what happened in Chicago and NYC. Trump didn't lose the popular vote to legit voters....no way no how

Yes I agree.....

 

[bripat9643]

Trump didn't win a mandate. He lost the popular vote

The popular vote wins you nothing so how can that be a mandate? You libs need to wake up, Trump won a massive area of our nation. He won districts in every state in the union. Clinton won in very few ares of America. That can never be a mandate regardless the numbers of votes. Hell she didn't top him by all that much anyway.

Take away illegals, cartoon characters, ballot-box stuffing with more votes than people registered, folks casting absentee AND same day votes, and rigged machines......and that's just California.....imagine what happened in Chicago and NYC. Trump didn't lose the popular vote to legit voters....no way no how.

Republicans always have to win by at least 5% in the real vote to compensate for all the Democrat fraud.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Oh dry up, you're no conservative either....that and you talk outa your ass

You're goddamned right I'm not a Conservative. I'm proudly not a Conservative because I value education, intelligence, honesty, and society. Your ideology has turned you into an intellectually stunted anti-social douchebag.

 

[theHawk]

Jeff Flake? Relative of Jake Fakey?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Jeff Flake? Relative of Jake Fakey?

About as republican as Fakey Jakey is

 

[OldLady]

Trump's immigration policies are his own, yes

No they're not. They're the GOP's platform, as it has remained unchanged (except for Ukraine policy which changed at the Republican Convention last year, strangely enough). So you're telling me Conservatives haven't been screaming about building a stupid wall, deporting "Mexicans", and opposing resettlement of refugees? Fuck you. Your memory may have been destroyed by all the glue you sniff, but everyone else can remember 2 years ago.

and the regulation cuts ... well hopefully they don't come back to bite us in the ass, along with his cuts to almost all the departments in govt. If that works, fine by me. But these pet commissions are his own little projects, devised outside his campaign promises, that show his personal biases.

Why would cutting government programs suddenly make them "work"? Fucking morons. The problem isn't Trump, the problem is Conservatism is anti-intellectual, anti-education, and anti-social.

I'm on your side. You high?

 

[Rambunctious]

You're goddamned right I'm not a Conservative. I'm proudly not a Conservative because I value education, intelligence, and society. Your ideology has turned you into an intellectually stunted anti-social douchebag

And you have such a lovely vocabulary as well. You surly must be a Harvard man...