Act of War

[Obiwan]

It might sound like I think you're an idiot. But I don't. I think you're scared, and upset, and you're reaching for simple solutions to placate those fears. Most everyone else is doing the same. Hopefully we'll sober up before those delusions become reality.

Let's be clear, I'm not scared. Jesus people like you always project your 'feelings' out onto other people. YOU have that internally, not me.

Adults have to recognize reality as it presents itself. Wishing for it to be some other reality won't change anything.

And being 'upset' and 'angry' isn't a negative when those things are warranted. You'd probably tell Americans on December 8th, 1941, "you are scared and upset, lets not rush into anything".
Bullshit, everything to its moment.

You speak from a safe cozy chair in front of a computer. These attacks we see almost every week now are on real human beings, unarmed and eating dinner, who are then gunned down fully auto AK47s, a weapon of war.

9/11 has continued, over the last 14 years, slowly over time and with not all dying on the same day. But it is the same and the fight is the same and we need to start winning.

Then run down and enlist...

The Army will gladly give you a nice, shiny rifle and all the bullets you can fire, so you can shoot terrorists to your heart's content.

Go hide in your basement Smeagal. Your tired old blubbering has no value.

I'm a veteran, while you admitted that you never had the guts to serve...

But you seem to have no problem with demanding that OTHERS go off to war for you???

I think the facts speak for themselves on that one...

So if you're so anxious for an all-out war fighting for your dictator (and the chance to kill a few Russians and Iranians, who are fighting for Assad, who Obozo has sworn to take down), go for it!!!

When you're caught between ISIS and the Ruskies, I wish you the best of luck!!!

BTW, don't forget to ask the recruiter about an enlistment bonus, and I hope the lying fucker is truthful with you!!!

Yeah go hide in your basement grandpa, your opinion is meaningless to me. Wahhhh, people shouldn't criticize the president or any other political figure because they've never been a politician. Wahh, no one can ever have an opinion on the police unless you have been a police officer. Wahhh, you can't say anything about being black in America unless you are black.

Your argument is lazy, lame, and has no value.

Go hide gramps, let the adults handle things.

Go ahead...

If you're so anxious for a war, enlist... That way you can learn a trade and get a paycheck, where you can get off welfare and food stamps!!!

 

[Damaged Eagle]

It might sound like I think you're an idiot. But I don't. I think you're scared, and upset, and you're reaching for simple solutions to placate those fears. Most everyone else is doing the same. Hopefully we'll sober up before those delusions become reality.

Let's be clear, I'm not scared. Jesus people like you always project your 'feelings' out onto other people. YOU have that internally, not me.

Adults have to recognize reality as it presents itself. Wishing for it to be some other reality won't change anything.

And being 'upset' and 'angry' isn't a negative when those things are warranted. You'd probably tell Americans on December 8th, 1941, "you are scared and upset, lets not rush into anything".
Bullshit, everything to its moment.

You speak from a safe cozy chair in front of a computer. These attacks we see almost every week now are on real human beings, unarmed and eating dinner, who are then gunned down fully auto AK47s, a weapon of war.

9/11 has continued, over the last 14 years, slowly over time and with not all dying on the same day. But it is the same and the fight is the same and we need to start winning.

Then run down and enlist...

The Army will gladly give you a nice, shiny rifle and all the bullets you can fire, so you can shoot terrorists to your heart's content.

Go hide in your basement Smeagal. Your tired old blubbering has no value.

I'm a veteran, while you admitted that you never had the guts to serve...

But you seem to have no problem with demanding that OTHERS go off to war for you???

I think the facts speak for themselves on that one...

So if you're so anxious for an all-out war fighting for your dictator (and the chance to kill a few Russians and Iranians, who are fighting for Assad, who Obozo has sworn to take down), go for it!!!

When you're caught between ISIS and the Ruskies, I wish you the best of luck!!!

BTW, don't forget to ask the recruiter about an enlistment bonus, and I hope the lying fucker is truthful with you!!!

Yeah go hide in your basement grandpa, your opinion is meaningless to me. Wahhhh, people shouldn't criticize the president or any other political figure because they've never been a politician. Wahh, no one can ever have an opinion on the police unless you have been a police officer. Wahhh, you can't say anything about being black in America unless you are black.

Your argument is lazy, lame, and has no value.

Go hide gramps, let the adults handle things.

You want all out war and you want the draft.

We're only setting the terms for your blood lust.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The time for yammer yammering has ended, this cancer has to be eradicated from the body of humanity. There are times for massive brutal warfare and this is one of those times.

You people who whine 'why don't you go', just go hide in your basement. And being a veteran doesn't give you magical powers to tell anyone else what to do, or say no one should talk about using the military unless they go themselves. Then stop talking about the President nonstop, about the police, and every other subject where you don't have personal experience. It is a lazy and lame argument. We the People DO tell our military where to go and what to do. YOU don't want to go, then don't. Stop whining about everyone else.

After IsiL and the other losers are defeated Iraq should be broken up into three countries. One Shiite, one Sunni, and one Kurd in the north. Otherwise and probably even then these people are going to be fighting until the end of time, like Israel and Palestine.

There are NO simple fuzzy solutions to anything over there. NONE. We do the best we can.

But the threat to the West is real and has to be dealt with. If you disagree then tell us, how many of these slaughters of unarmed innocents should we accept before we do go?

Infinite? Thank you Neville Chamberlain.

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You're the one calling for the draft which means 'all' citizens are to be involved over the little war you want. If you don't like the terms others are setting for the draft then I suggest you not call for the draft... Which means you might as well drop the subject of your total war on radical Islam.

The incident that has you so incensed happened in France let the French go to war.

*****SMILE*****

Well, why did they attack the French in the first place? Because they were helping us with our bombing campaigns against ISIS. Now we should just say "you're on your own Frenchies?"

 

[paulitician]

I got some skinny for you American Peeps especially...

The more countries your Government bombs, the less safe you become, and moves your own country closer to becoming a miserable Police State. That is the skinny Peeps. Time to accept it. Out.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

The time for yammer yammering has ended, this cancer has to be eradicated from the body of humanity. There are times for massive brutal warfare and this is one of those times.

You people who whine 'why don't you go', just go hide in your basement. And being a veteran doesn't give you magical powers to tell anyone else what to do, or say no one should talk about using the military unless they go themselves. Then stop talking about the President nonstop, about the police, and every other subject where you don't have personal experience. It is a lazy and lame argument. We the People DO tell our military where to go and what to do. YOU don't want to go, then don't. Stop whining about everyone else.

After IsiL and the other losers are defeated Iraq should be broken up into three countries. One Shiite, one Sunni, and one Kurd in the north. Otherwise and probably even then these people are going to be fighting until the end of time, like Israel and Palestine.

There are NO simple fuzzy solutions to anything over there. NONE. We do the best we can.

But the threat to the West is real and has to be dealt with. If you disagree then tell us, how many of these slaughters of unarmed innocents should we accept before we do go?

Infinite? Thank you Neville Chamberlain.

View attachment 54794

You're the one calling for the draft which means 'all' citizens are to be involved over the little war you want. If you don't like the terms others are setting for the draft then I suggest you not call for the draft... Which means you might as well drop the subject of your total war on radical Islam.

The incident that has you so incensed happened in France let the French go to war.

*****SMILE*****

Well, why did they attack the French in the first place? Because they were helping us with our bombing campaigns against ISIS. Now we should just say "you're on your own Frenchies?"

I haven't heard that the attacks were for that reason.

As far as I know it could be because of that French cartoonist that pissed them off.

Want to send some US troops to France to help secure their borders and cities that's fine.

As for getting involved any further in the ME at this time... No thanks.

*****SMILE*****

 

[dblack]

An 'unwinnable' war is ludicrous.

Yet you're all fired up to fight one.

Yeah the slaughter of the unarmed innocents, 130 in Paris, 198 in Spain, 60 in Britain, 224 on a Russian jetliner, 43 in Lebanon, 168 in Mumbai, 67 in a Kenya shopping mall, 3 in Boston, 3000 in New York.

Yes your are right, that does fire me up to kill these people with all due haste and with maximum hostility.

There is no unwinnable war. There is only insufficient will.

It might sound like I think you're an idiot. But I don't. I think you're scared, and upset, and you're reaching for simple solutions to placate those fears. Most everyone else is doing the same. Hopefully we'll sober up before those delusions become reality.

Let's be clear, I'm not scared. Jesus people like you always project your 'feelings' out onto other people. YOU have that internally, not me.

Adults have to recognize reality as it presents itself. Wishing for it to be some other reality won't change anything.

That's exactly what I'm getting at.

And being 'upset' and 'angry' isn't a negative when those things are warranted. You'd probably tell Americans on December 8th, 1941, "you are scared and upset, lets not rush into anything".
Bullshit, everything to its moment.

You speak from a safe cozy chair in front of a computer. These attacks we see almost every week now are on real human beings, unarmed and eating dinner, who are then gunned down fully auto AK47s, a weapon of war.

9/11 has continued, over the last 14 years, slowly over time and with not all dying on the same day. But it is the same and the fight is the same and we need to start winning.

I can't really go over all this again. I suspect it's the same idiotic neo-cons arguing war now that supported the Iraq war.

 

[Desperado]

Forget Desert Storm, Jump ahead to "Shock and Awe" in Iraq we have been involved in 4 wars in the Middle East since 2001. Are we any safer now than we were back then? Sorry to say "Abolsutely Not"! After all that Blood and Treasure we spent over there, we have nothing to show for it. From "Shock & Awe" to surgical strikes to Special Ops Teams, nothing we have tried has brought us any closer to ending the Mid East Boondoggle. Time for us to try something different, Get our troops out of there and let them fight it out amongst themselves with no US interference.

If they did just that then great. We don't have a problem. They aren't, they are murdering unarmed civilians in every country in the West. Its time to put this shit to an end.

Really, How do you know that since we haven;t tried it before?
We still have troops there.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Human drones aimed for their mark in Paris France ...these Terminators Suck

we bomb

wedding parties
Funerals
Meeting of Village Elders

They Bomb

Death Metal Eagle Concert
Soccer Game
Restaurants and Bars

 

[leftwinger]

After reading all posts, I am confused. Is USA now at choice an "all or nothing" war against Islam?

Islam must be banned? close up all shop? Destroy each Mosque? Ban public practice World Wide?
If not Islam will continue to strengthen (forced membership) and wreak havoc 50 years out?

Do nothing? Let them deal kill each other. Try to control inside USA borders only? Allow refugee, allow Islam in USA. Prosecute Americans for hate crimes etc.

 

[IsaacNewton]

These angle biters who bray "if you won't go then you shouldn't ask others to go". Cry me a river and go hide.

Citizens in fact are THE authority in telling our military where they should go and what they should do. We do this via our elected representatives. And it is just cowardly for anyone to claim to be a veteran and then tell those who aren't they have no say in anything regarding the military.

Sorry to break it to you but you don't aquire magical powers to shut everyone else up.

Whine and bitch all you want, throw out your strawman garbage, and then go have a nice cup of coffee in your cushy chair in front of your pc. Make sure, as you slide by the mirror, to look in and say "I pardon you". Then go judge everyone else.

You have nothing.

 

[oreo]

French President Calls Attacks an 'Act of War'


The French president calls attacks in Paris an 'Act of War'.

That is what it is. Nato needs to mobilize immediately and neutralize this threat with all due hostility. We aren't at terrorism, we are at war. The ENEMY has made it clear.

Nato should convene, tell the member states we need a quarter million troops and all will participate and land troops in Iraq and Syria FOR STARTERS. And it should make clear to the rest of the world get the fuck out of the way.

The real world is harsh and sometimes deadly force is required and right now is one of those times. And be clear, Nato will have forces in that region for decades to come.

The Nato charter states 'any attack on one member nation is an attack on all'. The time for half measures and yammering is now over, for good. Brutal force is now required, not by our choice but by what has been forced on us.

Agreed to rid the world of this cancer called ISIS--it's going to take a world wide effort. No more messing around with it. Everywhere is being attacked, these monsters do not draw lines, so neither should we.

That means every country has to mobilize and fight back, even the ones we don't usually work with.

 

[Iceweasel]

So now France is gonna meddle and kill some more. Yeah, that'll solve everything. Just bomb another nation while turning your own nation into a Police State. Sounds like a great plan.

Boy, the West has some very dark times coming. I would advise it rethink its endless War policy. It won't end well for its People.

The problem is it's a bit hard to reason with people hellbent on killing you if you don't let them rule over you.

Why do they wanna kill us? Please don't tell me you still think it's all about the 'Freedumb Fries.'

I answered it in the post, it's still there. The dumb was all yours.

 

[Kondor3]

So now France is gonna meddle and kill some more. Yeah, that'll solve everything. Just bomb another nation while turning your own nation into a Police State. Sounds like a great plan.

Boy, the West has some very dark times coming. I would advise it rethink its endless War policy. It won't end well for its People.

If true, then what is the Alternative, in your mind?

End the endless Wars, come home and secure our border. We don't belong in those lands. We're rapidly heading towards a Mushroom Cloud Police State nightmare. The Wars will come home. It is inevitable.

Yes.

Standard Ron Paul / Rand Paul (retreating) isolationist fare.

We now have global interests and a global presence.

Too late to go back to the 19th Century.

The fight is already upon us, whether you approve or not.

It is Militant Islam against The West.

We can fight them where they live...

Or we can wait until they're strong enough to assault us, and then fight them where WE live...

I choose their environs, not our own...

As will most Americans, when you get right down to where the Bear shits in the woods...

 

[Timmy]

Kondor ,

France is fighting them over there . And now at home . It's not a one or the other choice .

 

[Kondor3]

Human drones aimed for their mark in Paris France ...these Terminators Suck

we bomb

wedding parties
Funerals
Meeting of Village Elders

They Bomb

Death Metal Eagle Concert
Soccer Game
Restaurants and Bars

More Leftist PhukkTard faux Moral Relativism... and 'giving aid and comfort to the enemy'.

Horseshit.

 

[Kondor3]

Kondor ,

France is fighting them over there . And now at home . It's not a one or the other choice .

France is dealing with a pesky sand-flea... intermittent terror-attacks.

France is not dealing with field armies penetrating her borders nor enemy bombers blotting-out her skies.

Stopping the Enemy before it gets powerful enough to project in such ways is what Preemption is all about, on the macro level.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

[

I think that is a horrible idea. According to reports, ISIS' manpower is approximately 30,000. NATO should respond with an overwhelming force of 150,000 pairs of boots on the ground, and eliminate every last individual.

100% stupid since they would fade away faster thav the viet cong

 

[IsaacNewton]

Yeah the slaughter of the unarmed innocents, 130 in Paris, 198 in Spain, 60 in Britain, 224 on a Russian jetliner, 43 in Lebanon, 168 in Mumbai, 67 in a Kenya shopping mall, 3 in Boston, 3000 in New York.

Yes your are right, that does fire me up to kill these people with all due haste and with maximum hostility.

There is no unwinnable war. There is only insufficient will.

It might sound like I think you're an idiot. But I don't. I think you're scared, and upset, and you're reaching for simple solutions to placate those fears. Most everyone else is doing the same. Hopefully we'll sober up before those delusions become reality.

Let's be clear, I'm not scared. Jesus people like you always project your 'feelings' out onto other people. YOU have that internally, not me.

Adults have to recognize reality as it presents itself. Wishing for it to be some other reality won't change anything.

And being 'upset' and 'angry' isn't a negative when those things are warranted. You'd probably tell Americans on December 8th, 1941, "you are scared and upset, lets not rush into anything".
Bullshit, everything to its moment.

You speak from a safe cozy chair in front of a computer. These attacks we see almost every week now are on real human beings, unarmed and eating dinner, who are then gunned down fully auto AK47s, a weapon of war.

9/11 has continued, over the last 14 years, slowly over time and with not all dying on the same day. But it is the same and the fight is the same and we need to start winning.

Then run down and enlist...

The Army will gladly give you a nice, shiny rifle and all the bullets you can fire, so you can shoot terrorists to your heart's content.

Go hide in your basement Smeagal. Your tired old blubbering has no value.

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I see... Scared of getting your own hands dirty because you're above such things and so much more civilized... But you're more than willing to howl for blood so long as yours isn't on the line.

*****CHUCKLE*****

Your a child and you have a lame argument. If it were up to you our military would be sewing doilies because they can never be put in harms way unless every single other person, 85 years old doesn't matter, pregnant 40 year old woman doesn't matter, 12 year old child doesn't matter, is also forced to join the military.

I'm just tired of lazy people like you who come up with some lame meme and then vomit it out over and over as if it means anything.

YOU aren't going so stop whining.

You don't like free speech? Then go watch videos of cat's playing the piano.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

[
I choose their environs, not our own...
...

yes before they attack us with bio weapons we should start to eliminate their cities, but liberals did not like Hiroshima so they will wait till millions of Americans are killed.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

It might sound like I think you're an idiot. But I don't. I think you're scared, and upset, and you're reaching for simple solutions to placate those fears. Most everyone else is doing the same. Hopefully we'll sober up before those delusions become reality.

Let's be clear, I'm not scared. Jesus people like you always project your 'feelings' out onto other people. YOU have that internally, not me.

Adults have to recognize reality as it presents itself. Wishing for it to be some other reality won't change anything.

And being 'upset' and 'angry' isn't a negative when those things are warranted. You'd probably tell Americans on December 8th, 1941, "you are scared and upset, lets not rush into anything".
Bullshit, everything to its moment.

You speak from a safe cozy chair in front of a computer. These attacks we see almost every week now are on real human beings, unarmed and eating dinner, who are then gunned down fully auto AK47s, a weapon of war.

9/11 has continued, over the last 14 years, slowly over time and with not all dying on the same day. But it is the same and the fight is the same and we need to start winning.

Then run down and enlist...

The Army will gladly give you a nice, shiny rifle and all the bullets you can fire, so you can shoot terrorists to your heart's content.

Go hide in your basement Smeagal. Your tired old blubbering has no value.

View attachment 54795

I see... Scared of getting your own hands dirty because you're above such things and so much more civilized... But you're more than willing to howl for blood so long as yours isn't on the line.

*****CHUCKLE*****

Your a child and you have a lame argument. If it were up to you our military would be sewing doilies because they can never be put in harms way unless every single other person, 85 years old doesn't matter, pregnant 40 year old woman doesn't matter, 12 year old child doesn't matter, is also forced to join the military.

I'm just tired of lazy people like you who come up with some lame meme and then vomit it out over and over as if it means anything.

YOU aren't going so stop whining.

You don't like free speech? Then go watch videos of cat's playing the piano.

From my perspective it's you who does not like free speech and are whining.

You called for the draft and war yet you whine and cry when it's suggested that you and/or your blood needs to be put on the line if the draft and war is what you want.

Quit trembling and crapping your pants over the thoughtless words you yourself screamed for in calling for the draft.

*****CHUCKLE*****