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Another concealed carry owner doing the wrong thing

That nut, was just looking for someone to kill, he didn't even have a permit to carry.

So he was a criminal, intent on killing someone, and with or without gun control, someone was going to die. How does this effect law abiding gun owners?

Oh, wait, I get it, the OP is a troll.
So you didn't bother with the article, huh?

Livingston county prosecutor William Vaillencourt explains this is not a case about concealed guns. "Mr. Zale did carry or did possess a concealed pistol license. He presented it to police. But this is not a case about guns or CPL holders. I fully support the right of individuals to keep and possess firearms, but it's when they misuse those weapons that it becomes a problem."

Just went directly to attacking the OP.

So is this a lie or are you ignorant or what?

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You're late to the party again moron.

Says the puissant who needs a gun to defend against his shadow

I guess so since my shadow is also armed.
 
Someone explain concealed carry to me.

Wouldn't open carry be much more of a deterrent?
It would, but so does concealed carry. Crime drops when a criminal knows that his intended victim might have a gun.
No it doesn't.

What happens is the criminals are encouraged to arm themselves as well.

Bull shit. As usual you are wrong dumbass.
Crime goes down because of two factors:

1. A rising economy.
2. Good policing.

Armed citizens has zero to do with it.

In fact? Armed citizens leads basically to unarmed citizens getting shot in the face.

Wrong again idiot, care to go for three?

What Happened to Chicago s Crime Rate When Illinois Relaxed Gun Control Laws

Ooohhh..the "Daily Signal". Should I counter with Mother Jones?


To be fair, major news outlets have also reported on this.
 
Someone explain concealed carry to me.

Wouldn't open carry be much more of a deterrent?
It would, but so does concealed carry. Crime drops when a criminal knows that his intended victim might have a gun.
No it doesn't.

What happens is the criminals are encouraged to arm themselves as well.

Bull shit. As usual you are wrong dumbass.

Yeah..I am sure you have a whole bunch of "facts" gleaned from Alex Jones, the NRA or gun nut sites.

But the reality is far far different.

Yellowbelly.

Facts are facts loser. Just because you can't face them doesn't make them false.
 
Someone explain concealed carry to me.

Wouldn't open carry be much more of a deterrent?
It would, but so does concealed carry. Crime drops when a criminal knows that his intended victim might have a gun.
No it doesn't.

What happens is the criminals are encouraged to arm themselves as well.

Bull shit. As usual you are wrong dumbass.
Crime goes down because of two factors:

1. A rising economy.
2. Good policing.

Armed citizens has zero to do with it.

In fact? Armed citizens leads basically to unarmed citizens getting shot in the face.

Wrong again idiot, care to go for three?

What Happened to Chicago s Crime Rate When Illinois Relaxed Gun Control Laws

Ooohhh..the "Daily Signal". Should I counter with Mother Jones?

Regardless of the source it's fact moron. You lose.
 
Someone explain concealed carry to me.

Wouldn't open carry be much more of a deterrent?
It would, but so does concealed carry. Crime drops when a criminal knows that his intended victim might have a gun.
No it doesn't.

What happens is the criminals are encouraged to arm themselves as well.

Bull shit. As usual you are wrong dumbass.
Crime goes down because of two factors:

1. A rising economy.
2. Good policing.

Armed citizens has zero to do with it.

In fact? Armed citizens leads basically to unarmed citizens getting shot in the face.

Wrong again idiot, care to go for three?

What Happened to Chicago s Crime Rate When Illinois Relaxed Gun Control Laws

Ooohhh..the "Daily Signal". Should I counter with Mother Jones?

Regardless of the source it's fact moron. You lose.
No it is not.

Yellowbelly.
 
I'm a law abiding car owner, unless I drive drunk

But you don't buy a car with the dream of killing someone.

And you don't buy a gun with the dream of killing someone.

Sure you do.

There is no other purpose for a handgun then to kill another human being.

Let's see how many times a left wing hack moron can get his ass kicked on this board:
The quote went "dream of killing someone". Got a clue yet idiot? DREAM.

Loser.
 
Someone explain concealed carry to me.

Wouldn't open carry be much more of a deterrent?
It would, but so does concealed carry. Crime drops when a criminal knows that his intended victim might have a gun.
No it doesn't.

What happens is the criminals are encouraged to arm themselves as well.

Bull shit. As usual you are wrong dumbass.
Crime goes down because of two factors:

1. A rising economy.
2. Good policing.

Armed citizens has zero to do with it.

In fact? Armed citizens leads basically to unarmed citizens getting shot in the face.

Wrong again idiot, care to go for three?

What Happened to Chicago s Crime Rate When Illinois Relaxed Gun Control Laws

Ooohhh..the "Daily Signal". Should I counter with Mother Jones?

Regardless of the source it's fact moron. You lose.
No it is not.

Yellowbelly.

Yeah, you got nothing loser. Wrong on every count. You are dismissed.
 
Let's see. Would I rather be in a place where I know several folks are likely to be legally armed like the restaurant in the OP, or a place where I know several folks are likely to be illegally armed like on the streets of Chicago's hoods?
 
Let's see. Would I rather be in a place where I know several folks are likely to be legally armed like the restaurant in the OP, or a place where I know several folks are likely to be illegally armed like on the streets of Chicago's hoods?

And since they are allowing people to arm themselves in Chicago now, the crime rate is dropping.
 
You should read the article:
Livingston county prosecutor William Vaillencourt explains this is not a case about concealed guns. "Mr. Zale did carry or did possess a concealed pistol license. He presented it to police. But this is not a case about guns or CPL holders. I fully support the right of individuals to keep and possess firearms, but it's when they misuse those weapons that it becomes a problem."

He was a law abiding gun owner right? Now he is a murderer.


That nut, was just looking for someone to kill, he didn't even have a permit to carry.

So he was a criminal, intent on killing someone, and with or without gun control, someone was going to die. How does this effect law abiding gun owners?

Oh, wait, I get it, the OP is a troll.

so we should take away alcohol and cars right....???
 
I'm sure the wife and children feel great knowing that.

This is why people shouldn't be carrying guns. A situation of road rage turns into a killing.

Charges Filed In Road Rage Shooting Death - WLNS TV 6 Lansing - Jackson Your Local News Leader


Its a good thing that idiot is in jail. Thank God that responsible gun owners aren't going to be punished for this particular moron's actions. In this country, we get punished for committing crimes, not for having the ability to.

Nevertheless, the dead guy still is dead.

And the guy who killed him is being punished accordingly. The law worked.
 
I'm sure the wife and children feel great knowing that.

Yeah, I know it sucks really bad for the dead guy's family. That's just insanely obvious. The Law, however, is to take the crime, and the crime only, into consideration.

Reality is harsh, but there it is.
 
There has been 3 actually glad you can't even count.
1. The reason for this thread.
2. Concealed carry guy who accidently shot and killed a woman.
3. Concealed carry guy who accidently shot himself.
Finding more is easy if you want me to keep going.

The list of concealed carry idiots is very long actually.
ISU prof with concealed weapons permit who accidentally shot his foot in class is identified - ISU prof with concealed weapons permit who accidentally shot his foot in class is identified Local

This is why people shouldn't be carrying guns. A situation of road rage turns into a killing.

Charges Filed In Road Rage Shooting Death - WLNS TV 6 Lansing - Jackson Your Local News Leader
So, one idiot fucks up and you (another idiot) think that everyone should be stripped of their rights? Fuck off moron.
Two? TWO?? That's a long list for you moron?
 

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